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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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JCX9 said:
100% agreement. Clones were awesome in Melee and I'm definitely hoping there are a good number of them in Brawl, even though for some reason a lot of people hate them.Firestorm said:
Even if they're obscure characters that would get most people cheesed off, I'll welcome the copycats...The problem with Budokai Tenkaichi is that there are ~70 characters but really there are only 3 playing styles: small alien (Garlic Jr, Babidi), human-size character of some species or other (Tien, Piccolo), and big alien/robot (Great Apes, Hirudegarn). And within their categories, all the characters are ridiculously close to playing perfectly identically.
But in a game like Smash Bros. where there are already 27+ very unique playing styles (remember, Pokemon Trainer has three by himself), a few clones aren't going to hurt. Edit: And I mean that "clones" wouldn't hurt even if they were loads more clone-ish than the ones in SSBM.
But in a game like Smash Bros. where there are already 27+ very unique playing styles (remember, Pokemon Trainer has three by himself), a few clones aren't going to hurt. Edit: And I mean that "clones" wouldn't hurt even if they were loads more clone-ish than the ones in SSBM.
Guled said:
Now you see, if they were just going to be half-baked, lazy-ass clones, as was often the case with Melee's Clones, then I would have been right with you.
But to me, I would have hoped that if there were any clones, Sakurai would have seen to it that the clones were as different from each other as night is to day. As I've said often in this thread, I would have had little qualms with Ridley starting out as being based on Charizard's model, but had an entirely different set of B + A moves altogether, thus making it so that they were as far from being clones of each other as Kirby is to Purin/Jigglypuff.
Alas...but ah well. My slight qualms will surely die down, once I get this game, and everything will be forgotten.
ShockingAlberto
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Then in what way are they clonesTreIII said:Now you see, if they were just going to be half-baked, lazy-ass clones, as was often the case with Melee's Clones, then I would have been right with you.
But to me, I would have hoped that if there were any clones, Sakurai would have seen to it that the clones were as different from each other as night is to day. As I've said often in this thread, I would have had little qualms with Ridley starting out as being based on Charizard's model, but had an entirely different set of B + A moves altogether, thus making it so that they were as far from being clones of each other as Kirby is to Purin/Jigglypuff.
Alas...but ah well. My slight qualms will surely die down, once I get this game, and everything will be forgotten.
Keru_Shiri
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I'm going to think big and predict an unlockable character reveal tonight on Dojo! Hello Luigi!
ratcliffja
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I just watched the Number 23. I now fear ever meeting Jiggy in a dark alley.Fenix said:
Littleberu
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sp0rsk said:
I almost want to switch my prediction to "downloadable" content that's already in the game but will be periodically unlocked for a few months after release by logging on to Nintendo WFC, but I'll stick by Board the Platforms and Board the Platforms Creator for now. I'll make that other prediction some time, though.
Seriously, all you guys talking about spoilers. What the fuck is wrong with you? Does shit go one ear and out the other with you people? I'm going to start laying hardcore bans on people. This is seriously just amazing how soon you people can forget things like this.
crowphoenix
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I predict Luigi tonight.
AceBandage
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Tonight: KOS-MOS
Easytoremember
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Was the intro movie ever shown on the site for melee?
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Good gravy, this thread is getting scary to post in. I feel like I'm tiptoeing through a minefield here.
Jiggy, I think my favourite part of that little split-personality soliloquy is that you actually use Japanese suffixes during your mental breakdowns.
At any rate, in the interests of keeping this thread on topic and avoiding the wrath of sp0rsk, I'm going to go ahead and predict Zero Suit Samus' Final Smash, if only to inject this thread with some pessimism.
Jiggy, I think my favourite part of that little split-personality soliloquy is that you actually use Japanese suffixes during your mental breakdowns.
At any rate, in the interests of keeping this thread on topic and avoiding the wrath of sp0rsk, I'm going to go ahead and predict Zero Suit Samus' Final Smash, if only to inject this thread with some pessimism.
ratcliffja
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I predict the unpredictable! :O
DeathbyVolcano
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How long were those guys banned?
Seriously, I think you care too much sporsk. Chill out.
Seriously, I think you care too much sporsk. Chill out.
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Formless said:
True, but Olimar's Final Smash was on his movelist before it got an update.
I do agree that it's likely that ZSS' Final Smash will come as part of a double update, but I still fully expect to see it eventually, if only for completion's sake.
TheOneGuy said:
Again, don't get it twisted. I have no problem with the notion of clones, just with how Melee handled the concept of them. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel.
Maybe it's because I've played a lot of other fighting games both before and after Smash DX/Melee, but the concept of how they were so fundamentally lazy with the clones in that game just ticked me off.
I mean, even in the likes of seasoned series like Samurai Spirits/Shodown and Guilty Gear, the notion of clones was done with in a relatively interesting mechanism. Robo Ky and Order Sol share like all of like a few move properties alike with their progenitors, but that's about it. Robot and HOS are basically entirely different characters that have little in common with their name sakes.
That's not so much the case in Melee, where the clones were basically like SF2: Champion Edition Ryu and Ken. A few different move property changes (where they share the same attacks, but have like one or two different properties for those attacks) and that's it. LAZY. And in a time when the world of fighting games had come so fundamentally far from SF2: CE, I was expecting much better.
...Any way, getting back on topic. Since we got a lot of good megatons over the last few weeks, I think we need a lil something to cool us off. I'll side with Canadian's assessment that we may get Zamus' Final tonight, at long last...as well as hopefully positive ID that we can actually select Zamus from the get-go...
sp0rsk said:
Sheik's is. Zamus's, from what I heard, ain't.
OliveJuice
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I predict....some new mode/options.
Also, how come J-smasher's haven't created a thread yet?...Maybe not an official thread, but a thread nonetheless. It's almost out!!
Also, how come J-smasher's haven't created a thread yet?...Maybe not an official thread, but a thread nonetheless. It's almost out!!
I'd be honestly surprised if we got something lame. We've had a pretty great past four days (even though some people didn't care too much for the Tokyo/Kyoto match).
Edit:
Manaphy, the only truly excellent Poke Ball.
Mushroomy Kingdom, a superb stage.
The SMB1 theme in a great remix.
Two videos of online matches between Tokyo and Kyoto.
VC demos.
When I can honestly say that videos of online matches just might be the worst thing to come out of the last four days, I think I'm in good shape.
Edit:
Manaphy, the only truly excellent Poke Ball.
Mushroomy Kingdom, a superb stage.
The SMB1 theme in a great remix.
Two videos of online matches between Tokyo and Kyoto.
VC demos.
When I can honestly say that videos of online matches just might be the worst thing to come out of the last four days, I think I'm in good shape.
Littleberu
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sp0rsk said:
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