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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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I don't know, if IW is set in present day that'll be four years of GOTG working solidly as a team rather than getting together for one-off stuff.
Power levels don't matter. Other-wise might as well have every hero just be Vision/Thor/Hulk powerful as a baseline.
I mean, the same team on these movies just did Civil War, so I don't see that as a concern.
I just did a re-read of Abnett and Lannings' cosmic event stories and that has the Guardians knee-deep in every war despite the fact that more than half their team is underpowered compared to everyone else.
ClivePwned
Member
I saw this today and loved it. I don't care if the audience didn't laugh as much as me (early session so lots of families with young kids (a fair few toddlers just wandering around the cinema, too) but they weren't too irritating, but I did feel the body count was not something I'd want a 4-5 year old to see.
Funny and fun. I would probably say the best MCU film to date. Certainly the best sequel (for me)
Listening to the OST now. Loved that final track 'Guardians Inferno.'
Funny and fun. I would probably say the best MCU film to date. Certainly the best sequel (for me)
Listening to the OST now. Loved that final track 'Guardians Inferno.'
Nah man, The Guardians struggled too; I mean while Groot is dancing you see Draxx, Star Lord and Rocket getting pummeled (Gamora being the exception) by this beast.They barely beat Ronan. In all honesty, the Guardians and Avengers are alike; they beat their enemies with a dash of luck, a strategy that somehow works and at the end of the day they're happy to be alive.
genkigenki
Neo Member
Killing the mother and telling Peter about it is a very stupid move, not unempathic, not monstruous, but stupid. There was no need. He could have simply removed his human form and forget about love. Or take her to his planet. It's a nice way of incorporating plot from the first movie but a little bit clumsy.
Also, that Ego's core is a big human brain makes no fucking sense.
Anyway, I liked the movie a lot! I don't really care about that stuff. I'm in for the laughs and shit. Also loved the Yondu story.
In his human form he was falling in love with her, and he thought that if he went back to see her again he might never leave (and his human form isn't immortal, it has to return to the Ego planet or it ages). Because he's detached from human emotions, he viewed his falling in love as an inconvenience to his bigger plan and had to get rid of her.
Ashtrax
Member
Just got back from an IMAX screening and enjoyed it. I think the first is still the better film, more tightly paced, but the emotional punches volume 2 threw were on the mark. And the fin sequence was hilarious!
One question I had though was what did Mantis want to say to Drax before Gamora interrupted them? Was it just in regards to Ego?
One question I had though was what did Mantis want to say to Drax before Gamora interrupted them? Was it just in regards to Ego?
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Yeah pretty much.
It's a stupid movie when viewed from an audience perspective knowing how these hero/villain scenarios break down. You're correct in that there are all manner of alternative choices that Ego could have made to avoid his ultimate demise, but what I'm saying is that from what we understand of his character traits and personality it's incredibly unlikely that he would have made any decision that benefited anyone but himself.
Sorry, was that in response to me? Dying to know what that track was!
Was answering to ShortRaver
. You should check out the tracklist of Awesome Mix Vol. 2, you can listen to examples at Amazon.comMan this was very good i enjoyed it a lot more than the first and i love that film. Built upon the foundations very well while upping the stakes and giving some more character development. I need to sit on it a bit but i can easily see this being my favourite of all the MCU films.
Iirc it was Southern Lights
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Movie was fine. Had some great character moments and at times great visuals but it was also a complete bore plotwise.
They fucked up in the concept stage with choosing that particular storyline and there was little they could have done to make it interesting.
Also why do they go kill the best character.
Kirk from Gilmore Girls was awesome but drack was completely pointless to the movie's plot. He just was there for comedic relief, which he absolutely delivered on.
Also somehow Rocket was supposed to have learned a lesson but Peter who made some of the very same mistakes acknowledged that but didn't learn the same lesson at all.
They fucked up in the concept stage with choosing that particular storyline and there was little they could have done to make it interesting.
Also why do they go kill the best character.
Kirk from Gilmore Girls was awesome but drack was completely pointless to the movie's plot. He just was there for comedic relief, which he absolutely delivered on.
Also somehow Rocket was supposed to have learned a lesson but Peter who made some of the very same mistakes acknowledged that but didn't learn the same lesson at all.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Yeah, all those things. The thematic of family. Letting go. Dealing with grief and other negative emotions. Really nice. I wonder who the villain for the third installment will be? I really need to brush up on my cosmic Marvel before then.
Man, I think Yondu tops my favourite characters in the MCU. Really crazy how Gunn was able to give a side character such depth over a single film.
Annihilus :3
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Quite possibly, aren't the rights for him kind of fuzzy though?
Also really glad I spotted Grandmaster in the credits! Could hardly believe it.
Glass Rebel
Member
Nah, Ego repeatedly uses the song Brandy to drive home that he and Peter cannot be tied down by mortals like Pete's mom or Gamora. In Ego's mind, after giving Pete the vision of Eternity, he's pulled him to his side. I mean, sure, call it "stupid" but it's totally in-character for the conceited and self-absorbed Ego.
The Last One
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The movie's ending was absolutely incredible. It really felt like a big event was happening.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Got serious Empire Strikes Back vibes from the ending honestly.
Just had a listen, and it doesn't sound like it I'm afraid. It sounded very modern, very electro - almost a bit J-Pop to be honest. Guess I'm not surprised to not see it on the official soundtrack, which is still a shame.
I was really surprised by all the nice easter eggs and cameos with the standout being the Watchers. Totally caught me off guard seeing them especially talking to fucking Stan Lee lol Was really cool seeing Jeff Goldblum dancing during the credits as well. Hopefully the gang gets a cameo in Ragnarok even if its just them in the crowd during the Colosseum fight.
Hah I can imagine Rocket saying that pretty well
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Could just be Rocket and Groot then they don't have to pay for Pratt, Zaldana and Batista!
DeviantBoi
Member
I don't think it's explained.
He does say that he kept going back to Earth for her and he might have stayed if he went back one more time. Maybe that's why he killed her?
I missed the Grandmaster dancing. Hasslehoff saying "We are Groot" was great though.
It came down to Ego actually liking Meredith; he went back several times and told Peter that if he went back for a fourth time he wouldn't be able to leave her anymore. Because he needs to return to the core of his planet to keep his immortality and a means to change the universe, he thought that killing of Meredth would be the most logical thing to do to keep him focussed on his task.
autumnleaf
Member
Peter's Mother was a distraction from Ego's ultimate purpose so he killed her (and this would allow Peter to leave Earth and go to Ego). That thought process was actually quite scary and was a good way to show how dangerous he was, he would kill someone he genuinely loved because it might get in the way of his purpose.
DerangedHermit
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I tried to read most of the posts in this thread, skipped a few but didn't see any mention of them showing Cosmo in the credits roll!!
They can now introduce him since we have Mantis to speak for him!
(Oh yeah, movie was great!)
They can now introduce him since we have Mantis to speak for him!
(Oh yeah, movie was great!)
Callibretto
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I just realized that Quill can now understand what Groot is saying in the credits when he's talking with Teen Groot.
I think previously only Rocket can understand what Groot is saying.
Also, this film just make me realize that Groot in the first movie is really dead. The new Groot is more like his son rather than the old Groot surviving the first movie. That kinda sad. Because I love og groot jn the first movie.
I think previously only Rocket can understand what Groot is saying.
Also, this film just make me realize that Groot in the first movie is really dead. The new Groot is more like his son rather than the old Groot surviving the first movie. That kinda sad. Because I love og groot jn the first movie.
The One and Done
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As a God who has just made Peter a God, he saw it as inconsequential. He thought Peter had bought in at that point.
I wonder how IW will handle that. Teen Groot seems to be Gunn's thing, and I don't trust anyone else to get that right.
what's the timeline supposed to be like between GotG, GotG2, and IW?
Teen Groot in the credits may simply be a way to illustrate 'hey he's growing up, here is a funny clip' which allows them to segue into grown up Groot back in time for IW?
GotG 2 is set 2 months after the first one and it is set in 2014, so 4 years before Infinity War. He'll be fully grown.
Usually the directors of other characters are around to give some creative guidance for how those characters should behave and speak. That was the case with Jon Watts when Spider-Man was being introduced in Civil War.
Because these characters are going to pop up in various films with different directors there is a level of collaboration that has to occur for that to work otherwise you'll run the risk of characters being tonally inconsistent (which is kind of the case with comics anyway, but I guess in live action that would be extra jarring).
peanutbutterlatte
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Making the characters seem tonally consistent is something not even the comics can get right at times, so I'm glad Marvel is taking steps to avoid it. The Guardians' banter and interchanges with each other are a big part of their appeal, and I have faith in the Russos, but it's good they're getting Gunn's advice too.
And Teen Groot seems like a shtick that could wear off quicker than Baby Groot, don't mind that being relegated to a post-credits scene.
And Teen Groot seems like a shtick that could wear off quicker than Baby Groot, don't mind that being relegated to a post-credits scene.
catashtrophe
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Watched the movie on the weekend and it was a decent film but i massively preferred the first one.
I love the characters in general and Baby Groot cracked me up and Yondo was really good in this as well. Ego is probably the 1st half decent villain to appear in the MCU outside of Loki and hope he returns.
What i didn't like was the non stop forced humour, which started good then after half way through the film i barely reacted to it coz it just never stopped and you got humour at the most awkward times as well.
Drax's over the top laugh at every chance he got was dull after awhile and they never explored much of the universe, everything happened on 2 planets which was a let down as well.
Ego was good but i agree with what others have said about some of what he said didn't make sense.
I love the characters in general and Baby Groot cracked me up and Yondo was really good in this as well. Ego is probably the 1st half decent villain to appear in the MCU outside of Loki and hope he returns.
What i didn't like was the non stop forced humour, which started good then after half way through the film i barely reacted to it coz it just never stopped and you got humour at the most awkward times as well.
Drax's over the top laugh at every chance he got was dull after awhile and they never explored much of the universe, everything happened on 2 planets which was a let down as well.
Ego was good but i agree with what others have said about some of what he said didn't make sense.
We got new planets, more Ravager factions, The Sovereign, The Watchers.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
There were 4 planets total (?), with three of them a single location on that planet, two of which generic in addition.
Movie was just pretty boring.