SomedayTheFire
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Gonna pick up that controller for the PC.
Wondering if HDR in games is a few years too early. Inout lag seems to be a big problem and most sets force themselves into a set mode when they detect HDR content so you can't bypass processing etc.
It looks great and I don't have an Xbone. All signs point to "buy it"....
..... But Scorpio.
Hopefully it puts some pressure onto TV manufacturers to design faster displays with HDR.This is an excellent observation. Most HDR sets available today have around 80-100 ms input lag when processing the image, which is useless for gaming. This will be interesting.
This is an excellent observation. Most HDR sets available today have around 80-100 ms input lag when processing the image, which is useless for gaming. This will be interesting.
I have a Samsung SUHDTV and when I have its dynamic contrast set to high I still have no noticeable input lag. It's actually still feels faster than my old 1080p Insignia in game mode and I never had an issue with that.
Well that's good to hear. Funny how Samsung are now kings of input lag while Sony's newer models are struggling a bit. Used to be the other way around.
Ok, then your battle is in that thread warrior, stop shitting up this thread as no one mentioned it (except for you) in this thread.
Oh, wait.....I forgot who I was talking too..........
I think what your not understanding is 4k content is still not a standard. I work in broadcast, and we haven't even started looking up bigger microwave's and Transmitters to send 4k, and HDR streams. If anything they may not even be by transmitter, most of it may be bandwidth based as we have fiber up at our transmitter.
It's still going to be 5-10 years before you see CBS having 4k programming. Maybe HDR may come first, but it's still a ways off.
it truly might be the nicest looking console yet.
Looks beautiful.
I don't NEED this thing....but I certainly want it.
I have a Samsung SUHDTV and when I have its dynamic contrast set to high I still have no noticeable input lag. It's actually still feels faster than my old 1080p Insignia in game mode and I never had an issue with that.
I cancelled my pre-order the other day once I realised the Gears S has the Ultimate Edition digital copy of the game.
Gears 4 Ultimate digital is $139AU. By buying the Gears S, I'm getting it for $49AU. It's a fucking no brainer.
Dynamic contrast is not the same as HDR? Everywhere I've read, once you play HDR content on an HDR tv, the input lag jumps up noticeably.
Dynamic contrast and HDR are not the same. I could be wrong but I don't see why HDR content being played on an HDR tv would increase input lag.
Dynamic contrast is the TV adjusting the brightness of the picture to enhance darker/brighter scenes but HDR is the TV being able to display a wider color range than what was normally possible.
If I understand correctly the XOS is 180W from what youve writtenThat's something. Just trying to work out what the 1.8A means when the first PS4 was rated as 1.15-2.5A (250W rating) and the latest CUH-1200 model is rated 0.95-2.3A (230W rating).
120 volts X 1.8A = 216W is how I thought it was worked out but doing the same at 240 volts would mean it = 432W!?.....I'm either missing something here or I'm confused (both, probably!)
If the PSU is close to 200W though it would be evidence the S is still at 28nm.
So o need my confusion cleared up. Reviews and product information say my tv is HDR compatible. But there's no option for it to be turned on. Is it something that just automatically activates depending on the signal it receives?
Dynamic contrast and HDR are not the same. I could be wrong but I don't see why HDR content being played on an HDR tv would increase input lag.
Dynamic contrast is the TV adjusting the brightness of the picture to enhance darker/brighter scenes but HDR is the TV being able to display a wider color range than what was normally possible.
People should research before assuming because I've seen over at the AVS forums that many of the TV's that have HDR can do it even in game mode. So do your research and don't assume things.
So o need my confusion cleared up. Reviews and product information say my tv is HDR compatible. But there's no option for it to be turned on. Is it something that just automatically activates depending on the signal it receives?
Is the new controller different in any way besides Bluetooth support?
I'm not saying HDR content can't be played in game mode. It very well could be. Usually Game mode turns off alot of the post processing settings. But since HDR is coming from the source it should still be find in terms of input lag.
It's something that automatically turns on when you play something in HDR.
LG HDR compatible TVs will give you a notification when HDR content is being displayed but I think Samsung just displays it with no warning.
What model is your SUHD? I have the JS8500 and when I watch something that is HDR it turns the brightness and contrast all the way up and when I go back to watching normal TV it adjusts to what I have it calibrated too.
sorry i was adding to and agreeing with you not correcting you. guess i should be more clear.
I have a 60inch JS7000. It's a beautiful tv.
All of your HDMI ports should be HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 compliant. So you will be able to get HDR on the One S.
We have live 4K programming the UK already delivered over fibre and Sky are launching their full, multichannel 4K satellite service publicly in just over a week.
The first day I had the TV I had buyers remorse because the input lag was terribly and I couldn't find a "game mode" but on day two I found it buried randomly in a menu and the tv became much snappier than any tv I've played on since switching to HD gaming. It feels really good. I like keeping my dynamic range on high because it really adds good contrast to colors but with PS4 and Xbox One it makes the darks too dark and they start blending together. Hoping Xbox One S takes advantage of it better.
And for people who don't have a 4K tv; the upscaling is insane in these things. I play FF14 on my living room PS4 (4K tv) and my bedroom PS4 (1080p tv) and the resolution difference is night and day. Even 720p Wii U games (and some xbone games) look super crisp on it.
Just spend the extra $100 on games. Forza Horizon 3 + Inside + another indie.Nice. Now I need to decide if I'm gonna splurge on the 2tb version or wait for reviews and get the 500gb version in a few weeks. I already have a 2tb external.
Dynamic contrast is not the same as HDR? Everywhere I've read, once you play HDR content on an HDR tv, the input lag jumps up noticeably.
Dynamic contrast and HDR are not the same. I could be wrong but I don't see why HDR content being played on an HDR tv would increase input lag.
Dynamic contrast is the TV adjusting the brightness of the picture to enhance darker/brighter scenes but HDR is the TV being able to display a wider color range than what was normally possible.
Nice. Now I need to decide if I'm gonna splurge on the 2tb version or wait for reviews and get the 500gb version in a few weeks. I already have a 2tb external.
I think the back is textured for better grip or sommit.
If I understand correctly the XOS is 180W from what youve written
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Is your Samsung HDR though? If it is not, the Xbox S wont be doing much for you.
On the review under HDR the web page is saying unavailable. I just want to confirm that this set is HDR compatible like the other Samsung SUHD models.
The JS7000 is compatible in the way that it will display a picture with an HDR signal but since it doesn't have a full array backlight, it won't be able to produce better contrast on different part of the screen. Because of this, it's implementation make our HDR test irrelevant.
Well the assumption is that 1.8A is the max of the range as it would be silly to be the min and so that would match with the lower voltage range (so 100V) which is where I get 180W from...I think the missing part is the range of amps. On PS4 it ranges from 0.95A to 2.3A but on the XOS it just has 1.8A. I guess we'll have to wait for iFixit to tear it down before we find out for sure. No one that has one early seems to care enough about these tech details.
Well the assumption is that 1.8A is the max of the range as it would be silly to be the min and so that would match with the lower voltage range (so 100V) which is where I get 180W from...
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The PSU is rated 100V-240V so I used that figure - tbh Im not clued up with this, but for some reason it makes sense to me.Oh...I thought in the US the standard was 120V.
The PSU is rated 100V-240V so I used that figure - tbh Im not clued up with this, but for some reason it makes sense to me.
EDIT: Youll find the lower amperage is about 0.75A if my reasoning checks out...
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You need to consider the whole range the PSU is rated at not just 120V since there are countries that use 100V (Japan is only one I know). Knowing that coupled with basic IV=P fills in the blanks...I think I've got it now. Amps halve with double voltage.
So a nominal 120V (1.8A) or 240V (0.9A) will mean a PSU rating of 216W. The original Xbox One's PSU was rated at 12V 17.9A (reduced in later revisions) which is 215W. If this new box was at 14nm I would think it would be lower rated?
If my maths/understanding is right that is......
Doesn't look 40% smaller like MS claims,but overall looks good except I don't like White consoles in general.
Hopefully it puts some pressure onto TV manufacturers to design faster displays with HDR.
I feel so out of the loop. What exactly is HDR and why is it suddenly important?
Wondering if HDR in games is a few years too early. Inout lag seems to be a big problem and most sets force themselves into a set mode when they detect HDR content so you can't bypass processing etc.