Feel free to back up the "global icon" talk with something other than anecdotal evidence.
Isn't that exactly what you're doing?
300-400~
Going against Pirates of the Caribbean was suicide. Lmao at the genious execs responsible for it.
Not sure what kind of evidence you can expect to get , i mean i cant prove to you that Spider man and batman are popular in Asia too.Feel free to back up the "global icon" talk with something other than anecdotal evidence.
You're utilising your own personal experience as a German to refute their claims that the character is popular, without offering any evidence yourself to support your own side outside of "Go talk to a load of Germans".
The lack of evidence in the debate goes both ways.
Doesn't matter if she's a worldwide comic book icon. Movies are a different thing. Marvel has built a movie studio brand stronger than any individual character. Doctor Strange is a guaranteed hit not because his character is an icon but because the Marvel logo is.
You're utilising your own personal experience as a German to refute their claims that the character is popular, without offering any evidence yourself to support your own side outside of "Go talk to a load of Germans".
The lack of evidence in the debate goes both ways.
Feel free to back up the "global icon" talk with something other than anecdotal evidence.
Not at all.
One side claims that Wonder Woman is a global icon even outside the US. This is a general, unspecified claim. Obviously a lot depends on the definition used, but I think discussing this goes a bit far.
I am pointing out that the claim seems problematic, because at the very least in Germany the character is culturally irrelevant. This is not solely based on anecdotal evidence or my own experience, but on the character's history in Germany.
One side claims the character is globally relevant, whereas I'm pointing out that for at least one region this is not the case. It is thus for the other side to showcase why the character is globally relevant regardless. Given the enormity of their claim, surely it should not be hard to produce something. That is without pointing out how unreasonable it is to demand proof for the nonexistence of cultural relevance, compared to the opposite.
You surely mean Foreign with Worldwide?How does one prove that either way?
I guess we'll find out in 2 weeks
That said, she has benefited from being associated with 2 of the biggest comic book characters of all-time.
She's been a staple of every animated series they've done, part of Injustice/DC vs MK fighting games, a big part of DCUO and of course being (the best?) part of Batman v Superman. So while her stock may not nearly be as high not a complete unknown.
Anyhow, my guess would be
Opening: 87 million
Domestic: 215 M
Worldwide: 295 M
You surely mean Foreign with Worldwide?
How does one prove that either way?
I guess we'll find out in 2 weeks
That said, she has benefited from being associated with 2 of the biggest comic book characters of all-time.
She's been a staple of every animated series they've done, part of Injustice/DC vs MK fighting games, a big part of DCUO and of course being (the best?) part of Batman v Superman. So while her stock may not nearly be as high not a complete unknown.
Anyhow, my guess would be
Opening: 87 million
Domestic: 215 M
Worldwide: 295 M
Feel free to back up the "global icon" talk with something other than anecdotal evidence.
You surely mean Foreign with Worldwide?
lol, I'm not sure that's a ringing endorsement since Wonder Woman [Injustice spoilers]is basically the real villain of the Injustice games
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I have absolutly NO IDEA
it has equal chances of being the worst DCCU box office and the best
i have no doubt that it'll be a better film than that enormous piece of shit but i do doubt it'll make as much money :/Thinking it'll have good legs if reports of it being a great movie are true. I hope to god it does better than the turd that was Suicide Squad.
Singaporen here , Wonder Woman is well known in East Asia not just SEA. The next most popular SH should be Xmen.
I agree with Joker but no body know the other two Villain. Why are you denying that DC trinity and Spider man are freaking well known outside of US?
Huh interesting....well, looking at Google Trends since 2004, there does seem to be a distinct drop-off in interest for "Wonder Woman" across the atlantic
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also, people in general (as opposed to enthusiast communities) seem to care very little about wonder woman
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There doesn't seem to be much hype, this close to release.
Ant-Man had a higher "peak" than WW, as far as i can tell.
But maybe i'm using google trends wrong?
whatHuh interesting....
Does Google tread take localization into consideration and does it only get search result that passes though it ? I think Google is only the most popular search engine in English speaking countries or if you need your result in English , will this affect its results ?
- Domestic: 110M
- Foreign: 130M
- Worldwide: 240M
- Opening Weekend domestic: 40M
Oh wow, just looked up the box office total for Suicide Squad. How?!i have no doubt that it'll be a better film than that enormous piece of shit but i do doubt it'll make as much money :/
There doesn't seem to be much hype, this close to release.
Ant-Man had a higher "peak" than WW, as far as i can tell.
But maybe i'm using google trends wrong?
what
google is 1 in every fucking country .
stop trying to be justify things for sake of it.
Margo Robbie and Will Smith.Oh wow, just looked up the box office total for Suicide Squad. How?!
Feel free to back up the "global icon" talk with something other than anecdotal evidence.
When Iron Man can be a thing, potentially anything can.
You are totally ignoring my post err?
How does one prove that either way?
I guess we'll find out in 2 weeks
There is an entire wikipedia page for Cultural impact of Wonder Woman and her own page has a tl:dr version for Feminist icon, Pacifist icon and LGBT icon
probably down to some really strong marketing.Oh wow, just looked up the box office total for Suicide Squad. How?!
Domestically, it probably won't matter. Overseas though, Pirates is probably going to suck all the air out of the room until Transformers.I see a few posts about people worried about Pirates eating into it. Pirates comes out this week. So it'll be in its 2nd week when WW comes out. I just don't think it'll have much impact.
I am curious. Since it'll be Summer. How the weekday totals will look.
probably down to some really strong marketing.
There is an entire wikipedia page for Cultural impact of Wonder Woman and her own page has a tl:dr version for Feminist icon, Pacifist icon and LGBT icon
And no one has said otherwise.
For an in-depth discussion we would have to delve into the term itself and its definition, as well as (measurable) criteria. That is without taking into account that we likely do not have the required data/statistics (e.g. surveys). So let us look at it in general and not worry about it too much.
I would expect a global icon to be well-known across the world. Recognition alone seems insufficient, so I would demand that the character has had cultural impact around the world. I would expect such a character to appear in (pop) culture to a noticeable extent over the years, be that directly in media (e.g. movies) or as reference (e.g. in articles). Either way, the character would find its way into the public consciousness.
Now all of this is very difficult to measure, if at all, not to mention the plethora of problems and factors to take into account. Yet at the very least I would expect historical cultural visibility. Articles that mention the character, works of art that reference her, all of this over many years and to an extent where it is hard to overlook her. That's simply not the case for Germany. Whether it is the case for other countries I cannot tell, but I have my doubts.
I don't think BO results are indicative of that, unless the movie performs sensationally.
We are talking about her relevance specifically outside the US. You will note that the Wikipedia page is very barren if you exclude the US.
You guys are American? I really, really don't know if she belongs beside Batman, Superman and Spider-Man.