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[CaviarMeths]

Wanted to see if I could guess what #1 and #2 were before clicking on the thread. I guessed Detective Comics and Archie Comics.

Do "Superman" and "Batman" include all comics with those characters headlining? Or strictly their self-titled solo series?

 

[nacimento]

Asterix the GOAT at a respectable 10M a comicbook average. Probably a lot more for the Goscinny-written ones.

 

[bjork]

...he's not the manga representative, it's based on the best sellers, as listed in the OP.

There's already a list, so why would that be the question?

 

[JonnyDBrit]

There's already a list, so why would that be the question?

It's a piss-take on internet fight speculation. Since Dragonball isn't in the top 5, it's not part of the joke.

 

[bjork]

It's a piss-take on internet fight speculation. Since Dragonball isn't in the top 5, it's not part of the joke.

Thank you for taking time to seriously deconstruct my facetious comment. You're a good egg.

 

[Jigolo]

Oda is a god. Series is awesome

Congrats and well deserved. Make it to the top, ODA

 

[Akainu]

I only watched the recent one Z,Strong World and Gold those have Oda's involvement and are good movies for OP fans.

Part 1

Part 2

You haven't watched Baron Omatsuri and the Secret Island? Get on that now!!!

 

[Lucumo]

another interesting point is that one piece almost doubles the second best selling manga,

One piece: 416 millions
Dragon ball: 240 millions


it makes sense since dragon ball was serialized like 10 years, and one piece has been on serialization for 20 years

Shounen Jump sales probably play a role too.

Dragon Ball: 1984-1995
One Piece: 1997 - ?

Dragon Ball looks way better, taking that into account.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Thank you for taking time to seriously deconstruct my facetious comment. You're a good egg.

...Well, I am autistic, so sometimes I do take that stuff at face value. Apologies.

Shounen Jump sales probably play a role too.

Dragon Ball: 1984-1995
One Piece: 1997 - ?

Dragon Ball looks way better, taking that into account.

There's also the interesting effect of One Piece's longevity giving it a certain generational appeal. People who grew up on the series have introduced it to their kids, and the series has relatively high family sales.

 

[Pilgrimzero]

So what's a free way to watch this? I'm willing to give it another chance.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

So what's a free way to watch this? I'm willing to give it another chance.

If you live in the US, you can start a 30 day trial with Crunchyroll. After that, scrounge around for the codes that premium users get mailed each month, I guess.

Edit: Oh yeah, Funimation might have it too, though not sure if the American service would need a subscription.

 

[Big One]

So what's a free way to watch this? I'm willing to give it another chance.

Crunchyroll.

 

[Maedhros]

I always laugh when people say the quality of One Piece has declined. The series has been consistently good since forever. Dressrosa and Cake Island are just as good as Water 7 and Marineford if not better. It's well-deserved for One Piece to reach this achievement. The fact that it's still so well-written after all this times is tear-worthy. Luffy is the king we need. I'm upset the anime isn't better

Nah, Dressrosa was just a POS arc (also everything post time skip). Just in Cake Island that it finally got a bit better in terms of pacing.

 

[andymcc]

Shounen Jump sales probably play a role too.

Dragon Ball: 1984-1995
One Piece: 1997 - ?

Dragon Ball looks way better, taking that into account.

Right. DB at 42 volumes certainly has better sales then any other manga.

Also DB probably bolstered Jump sales more than any other manga.

 

[The Illiterati]

Fishman is a good arc if you are just not looking for a ballon kind of storytelling where stakes are higher and higher in each and every island. I actually stopped there too cause I just like to have a lot of material to go through.

I'll go back in with this viewpoint. I don't need stakes to raise. It's really the designs of the Fishmen that turn me off.

 

[Big One]

Right. DB at 42 volumes certainly has better sales then any other manga.

Also DB probably bolstered Jump sales more than any other manga.

You have to remember DB was published in an era where manga piracy didn't exist as well. Nowadays I'd be willing to bet most people read Jump online illegally. They definitely do in the West. Notice how there's literally millions in volumes sales for all the popular manga series like Dragon Ball, One Piece, Naruto, etc. compared to the mere thousands that actually buy WSJ. The anime series also help manga volume sales as well.

 

[Vital Tundra]

Did he ever find One Piece?

 

[Acidote]

Did he ever find One Piece?

Not yet. But

One piece does exist!

 

[LotusHD]

Did he ever find One Piece?

20 years and they still ain't find shit.

 

[Ray Down]

Did he ever find One Piece?

No, but the method to finding it is.

 

[Big One]

No, but the method to finding it is.

What gets me is that they kind of cheated by getting told this, lol. Dogstorm told them they usually learn that shit on the final island of the Grand Line which apparently ISN'T Raftel. Meaning if they went there they would have to make a second trip to get the Road Poneglyphs

 

[LaNaranja]

We all agree on who's the best strawhat right

Anyone who says anything other than Robin is objectively wrong. That said Carrot has really grown on me and I am going to be pissed if she doesn't join. The swerve can be Jimbe gets eaten so Carrot becomes the tenth member.

Also Punk Hazard is the best arc (so far).

 

[EMT0]

Anyone who says anything other than Robin is objectively wrong. That said Carrot has really grown on me and I am going to be pissed if she doesn't join. The swerve can be Jimbe gets eaten so Carrot becomes the tenth member.

That's some fine heresy you got there >:^|

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Anyone who says anything other than Robin is objectively wrong. That said Carrot has really grown on me and I am going to be pissed if she doesn't join. The swerve can be Jimbe gets eaten so Carrot becomes the tenth member.

Also Punk Hazard is the best arc (so far).

You see you have me On a roller coaster robin sucks but yet you like punk hazard and want carrot

 

[John Dunbar]

anyone know how many copies all those donald duck comics have sold combined? they are huge in europe.

 

[Ray Down]

Jinbei ain't getting eaten, Carrot a shit.

 

[LotusHD]

Also Punk Hazard is the best arc (so far).

This is literally the first time I've ever heard someone say this lol

 

[Ray Down]

Anyone who says anything other than Robin is objectively wrong. That said Carrot has really grown on me and I am going to be pissed if she doesn't join. The swerve can be Jimbe gets eaten so Carrot becomes the tenth member.

Also Punk Hazard is the best arc (so far).

 

[Kthulhu]

I just wish it wasn't so long. I feel like it's impossible for a newcomer to get invested.

 

[LotusHD]

I just wish it wasn't so long. I feel like it's impossible for a newcomer to get invested.

Everyone has to start somewhere.

 

[The Illiterati]

I just wish it wasn't so long. I feel like it's impossible for a newcomer to get invested.

Just realize I thought this years ago, now I'm on vol 63 out of 85? A few years from now, only a few more volumes will be out. You can read a volume a week or watch two eps a day and be caught up in no time.

 

[Ray Down]

Everyone has to start somewhere.

Exactly, some start with 4kids, some start at Impel Down.

 

[CadetMahoney]

I only watched the recent one Z,Strong World and Gold those have Oda's involvement and are good movies for OP fans.

Gold is the recent one unless I haven't been paying attention. Gold is also the best one tbh.

 

[Ray Down]

Gold is the recent one unless I haven't been paying attention. Gold is also the best one tbh.

Still might give it to Strong World, despite it's ending.

 

[Berserking Guts]

I really need to read One Piece. I've been itching to read a new Manga for ages.

 

[Ray Down]

I really need to read One Piece. I've been itching to read a new Manga for ages.

Well it's going to be around for another 10 years, so start now!

 

[Rumblebones]

I don't respect anyone's opinion on One Piece if they think post timeskip is better than pre timeskip.

Feel free to delude yourself into thinking the series hasn't declined in quality, that's a view usually fixed when people go back and read the earlier arcs again and remember how amazing they were.

Nothing after the timeskip is on a level with Skypiea or Impel Down or Marineford. Never mind the brilliance of Water Seven, Alabasta or Thriller Bark.

Fisherman Islands started out strong but quickly disappointed and became a slog to read. Hodi was a trash villain and the SHP had no real challenges, they essentially just got to show off their power ups.

Punk Hazard started out way better and I was really hopeful for a while because it reminded me a good deal of Thriller Bark, but it was stretched out too long for my linking.

Dressrosa was just boring. Let's be honest. Some cool revelations aside, it just wasn't that compelling. Mingo failed to live up to expectations, the tournament introduced way too many characters no one cares about, and all the family drama was just a bore.

I'm also sick of Oda's continued insistence on splitting up the SHP wherever they go. What made One Piece so great was the totality of the crew adventuring together. It was fun, their stories and interactions and antics could make you laugh and cry because they just drew you in and made you want to be a part of the crew. It made their sprawling adventures so memorable, the stakes so high, the drama so tense and thrills so engaging. One Piece progressively lost that after Water Seven more and more.

I no longer care as much about the crew as I used to and that sucks, cause when I look back to my favourite arcs, what I remember most fondly is their togetherness. It's what made One Piece so great in the first place and I wish Oda would go back to that form of storytelling.

 

[Fulminator]

I don't respect anyone's on opinion on One Piece if they think post timeskip is better than pre timeskip.

Feel free to delude yourself into thinking the series hasn't declined in quality, that's a view usually fixed when people go back and read the earlier arcs again and remember how amazing they were.

Nothing after the timeskip is on a level with Skypiea or Impel Down or Marineford. Never mind the brilliance of Water Seven, Alabasta or Thriller Bark.

Fisherman Islands started out strong but quickly disappointed and became a slog to read. Hodi was a trash villain and the SHP had no real challenges, they essentially just got to show off their power ups.

Punk Hazard started out way better and I was really hopeful for a while because it reminded me a good deal of Thriller Bark, but it was stretched out too long for my linking.

Dressrosa was just boring. Let's be honest. Some cool revelations aside, it just wasn't that compelling. Mingo failed to live up to expectations, the tournament introduced way too many characters no one cares about, and all the family drama was just a bore.

I'm also sick of Oda's continued insistence on splitting up the SHP wherever they go. What made One Piece so great was the totality of the crew adventuring together. It was fun, it drew you in, their stories and interactions and actions could make you laugh and cry because they just drew you in and made you want to be a part of the crew. It made their sprawling adventures so memorable, the stakes so high, the drama so tense and thrills so engaging. One Piece progressively lost that after Water Seven more and more.

I no longer care as much about the crew as I used to and that sucks, cause when I look back to my favourite arcs, what I remember most fondly is their togetherness. It's what made One Piece so great in the first place and I wish Oda would go back to that form of storytelling.

i agree that on the whole pre timeskip is better than post, but post timeskip has some great moments, and the series has definitely been really good in this current arc and the Zou arc, and I think it will only continue to improve as we move closer and closer to end game

also Thriller Bark is horrendous, easily the most trash arc in all of One Piece
the only good part is at the end with Kuma, and the very beginning when Luffy pushes that Zombie back into the ground (arguably the best moment in the whole series lol)

 

[Coriolanus]

While the book does suffer from bloat in several areas, most proeminent of which being the size of the straw hat crew, which results in several characters being completely forgotten for some stretches, OP does have the absolutely admirable quality of consistently displaying the author's immense love for what he does. Oda's splash and chapter designation pages remain an absolute treat and evident labour of love even after two decades, something that is quite unique.

Do wish that the crew hadnt become so flanderized as the years went tho.

 

[Rumblebones]

i agree that on the whole pre timeskip is better than post, but post timeskip has some great moments, and the series has definitely been really good in this current arc and the Zou arc, and I think it will only continue to improve as we move closer and closer to end game

also Thriller Bark is horrendous, easily the most trash arc in all of One Piece
the only good part is at the end with Kuma, and the very beginning when Luffy pushes that Zombie back into the ground (arguably the best moment in the whole series lol)

That's my point. Post timeskip has its moments. Pre skip arcs were mostly just amazing start to finish.

If you think Thriller Bark is trash, I don't know what drew you to One Piece in the first place. I think it is the quintessential One Piece arc and if someone asked what arc to jump to because they for some reason didn't want to start at the beginning, I'd say Thriller Bark has it all. It's the perfect medley of classic One Piece story, character, action, humour and drama.

Honestly what part can any One Piece fan dislike? The pacing was great, just start to finish it didn't hold anything back. The art direction and design was amazing. Comedy on point. It gave us Brook and his awesome introduction and connection to Laboon. It gave us the shadow counterparts, Perona and her Hollows, Usopp having his moment against her with the hammer, Zoro vs Ryuuma, Sanji and his undying rage for Absalom, SHP vs Oars TEAM BATTLE INCLUDING AN ATTEMPT AT FORMING A MECHA, NIGHTMARE LUFFY, Lola and her merry band, a cast of villains with awesome designs, BINKS' SAKE, Kuma appearing and fighting the SHP, Zoro having his moment and sacrifice - I can talk about this arc and why I love it for hours. Hell, the anime adaptation was just so damn good with its use of colours and music and animation.

Thriller Bark was just awesome. I really hope you consider watching it again, your opinion may change now you can compare it to the state One Piece is in now.

 

[LotusHD]

Feel free to delude yourself into thinking the series hasn't declined in quality, that's a view usually fixed when people go back and read the earlier arcs again and remember how amazing they were.

I don't disagree with anyone saying pre-TS is better, but those that actually believe OP is bad now? Lol no. Its (former) contemporaries show you that a real decline in quality looks like, where you barely even care about what happens next. I mean, if that's you now, then well that sucks, but you're certainly in the minority. As I've said before, it's more like it went from amazing to just good/great, with the current arc and the one before potentially reaching those same highs.

Dressrosa was just boring. Let's be honest.

Lol, speak for yourself. And those characters no one cares about will have their due one day due to the arc setting that up for the future. Not that that necessarily means you can't dislike them now I guess. That said, yes, Rebecca did suck.

I'm also sick of Oda's continued insistence on splitting up the SHP wherever they go. What made One Piece so great was the totality of the crew adventuring together. It was fun, it drew you in, their stories and interactions and actions could make you laugh and cry because they just drew you in and made you want to be a part of the crew. It made their sprawling adventures so memorable, the stakes so high, the drama so tense and thrills so engaging. One Piece progressively lost that after Water Seven more and more.

I no longer care as much about the crew as I used to and that sucks, cause when I look back to my favourite arcs, what I remember most fondly is their togetherness. It's what made One Piece so great in the first place and I wish Oda would go back to that form of storytelling.

I prefer them all together as well, but I don't hate it or anything, and understand why he does it. It's amusing seeing those gaps filled with characters like Law, or it providing characters like Brook more to do.

 

[hogendaz85]

Ugh. I guess I need to try it again. I got to the arc with Sanji's introduction and it felt like a slog. Backstory was cool though.

You ain't seen shit!

 

[MaximumSpider]

One Piece is truly the GOAT.

 

[BasilZero]

One piece beat Spiderman? wow..thats insane but awesome.

 

[Fulminator]

That's my point. Post timeskip has its moments. Pre skip arcs were mostly just amazing start to finish.

If you think Thriller Bark is trash, I don't know what drew you to One Piece in the first place. I think it is the quintessential One Piece arc and if someone asked what arc to jump to because they for some reason didn't want to start at the beginning, I'd say Thriller Bark has it all. It's the perfect medley of classic One Piece story, character, action, humour and drama.

Honestly what part can any One Piece fan dislike? The pacing was great, just start to finish it didn't hold anything back. The art direction and design was amazing. Comedy on point. It gave us Brook and his awesome introduction and connection to Laboon. It gave us the shadow counterparts, Perona and her Hollows, Usopp having his moment against her with the hammer, Zoro vs Ryuuma, Sanji and his undying rage for Absalom, SHP vs Oars TEAM BATTLE INCLUDING AN ATTEMPT AT FORMING A MECHA, NIGHTMARE LUFFY, Lola and her merry band, a cast of villains with awesome designs, BINKS' SAKE, Kuma appearing and fighting the SHP, Zoro having his moment and sacrifice - I can talk about this arc and why I love it for hours. Hell, the anime adaptation was just so damn good with its use of colours and music and animation.

Thriller Bark was just awesome. I really hope you consider watching it again, your opinion may change now you can compare it to the state One Piece is in now.

yeesh i dunno man, i might check it out again, but I remember coming off of Enies Lobby/Water 7 (HYPE AF), and then transitioning to Thriller Bark, and everything was just so BORING

it was a funny arc for sure, but none of the action was interesting at all to me (bar the Kuma stuff), and the antagonists of the arc weren't very interesting either

luckily we transitioned to another amazing arc after that one at Sabaody, so good

 

[MaximumSpider]

That's my point. Post timeskip has its moments. Pre skip arcs were mostly just amazing start to finish.

If you think Thriller Bark is trash, I don't know what drew you to One Piece in the first place. I think it is the quintessential One Piece arc and if someone asked what arc to jump to because they for some reason didn't want to start at the beginning, I'd say Thriller Bark has it all. It's the perfect medley of classic One Piece story, character, action, humour and drama.

Honestly what part can any One Piece fan dislike? The pacing was great, just start to finish it didn't hold anything back. The art direction and design was amazing. Comedy on point. It gave us Brook and his awesome introduction and connection to Laboon. It gave us the shadow counterparts, Perona and her Hollows, Usopp having his moment against her with the hammer, Zoro vs Ryuuma, Sanji and his undying rage for Absalom, SHP vs Oars TEAM BATTLE INCLUDING AN ATTEMPT AT FORMING A MECHA, NIGHTMARE LUFFY, Lola and her merry band, a cast of villains with awesome designs, BINKS' SAKE, Kuma appearing and fighting the SHP, Zoro having his moment and sacrifice - I can talk about this arc and why I love it for hours. Hell, the anime adaptation was just so damn good with its use of colours and music and animation.

Thriller Bark was just awesome. I really hope you consider watching it again, your opinion may change now you can compare it to the state One Piece is in now.

How the hell can anyone hate Thiller Bark!?
Definitely one of my all time favorite arcs thanks to the glorious team fights.

 

[Laz-E-Boy]

I don't respect anyone's opinion on One Piece if they think post timeskip is better than pre timeskip.

Feel free to delude yourself into thinking the series hasn't declined in quality, that's a view usually fixed when people go back and read the earlier arcs again and remember how amazing they were.

lol, the opposite actually happened to me. When I reread older arcs I came away thinking Alabasta while good is fairly overrated, Skypiea is incredibly bloated and Thiller Bark is eh. Dressrosa I consider on the same level as those arcs even though I was pretty let down by it. Zou/Whole Cake Island I consider pretty good, with Zou being great.

The only parts of One Piece I consider legitimately amazing/all time great are Water 7/Enies Lobby and the stretch between Sabaody and Marineford, with Sabaody and Marineford being the high points (although Marineford could have been much better).

Every other arc in One Piece is more or less on the same level.

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

How the hell can anyone hate Thiller Bark!?
Definitely one of my all time favorite arcs thanks to the glorious team fights.

I can def see why if its the anime.
But even then, the anime had some great scenes for that arc.

 

[WrenchNinja]

That's a really big feat, especially since it's competing with stuff from the 1940s

Reminds me that I tried reading through it because people wouldn't stop calling it the best thing ever. I think I stopped around the time they first meet that blue haired girl and Luffy and Zoro have a fight or something. Might be after they met the whale. This was maybe 7 or 8 years ago so I don't really remember the details. It was definitely after that arc with Nami's back story.

Anyway, I don't remember why exactly I stopped but I never really went back to it. After that I would listen to this podcast that would recap weekly Jump issues and I would just hear summaries and discussions of the latest chapters, barely comprehending what was going on.

I should probably read it, hell I'm sure I'd enjoy it, but there's already a bunch of good stuff out there that I need to read, watch and play instead of devoting however long to read hundreds of chapters, albeit chapters I could probably get through 5 minutes at a time, but still.

 

[Fulminator]

i've only seen anime thriller bark and i hate it lol

maybe i'll read it but idk if it will help