Oh boy, I can hear Kotaku typing the article.
lol, why?
Them having off spring I can completely understand as Two men can't have a baby together.
Them removing the option to be gay kinda shocks me. They have things like Captian Rainbow, Birdo and Tingle and while these aren't flat out homosexuals, they have tons of themes that come across as gay and Nintendo hasn't been big on censoring for a long time despite them having a reputation of doing so.
I thought the only one of these that was gay was Birdo. As far as I know the other two aren't? Has that changed in one of their games recently?
Tingle only gets that due to the whole "I want to be a fairy!" thing, but if you just look at the ART for those games you can tell he clearly wants to score with women. I guess he'd still count as flamboyant, but flamboyant's not the same as being gay at all. And Birdo's a portion of Captain Rainbow for whatever that's worth, notably the most significant depiction of Birdo touching LGBT topics, everything else kind of dodged it but (weirdly enough) the SMB2 manual.I thought the only one of these that was gay was Birdo. As far as I know the other two aren't? Has that changed in one of their games recently?
I'n my post, it says they aren't Homosexual's, but have themes. As far as Captain Rainbow goes, it's features Birdo and doing quests for him. Which is why Captain Rainbow was brought up, not because of the flashy stuff with the lead.
No wait, Tharja X Noire.
It'd be a slow discussion since we'd all be typing with one hand OHIf Nintendo did that we'd truly have something to discuss.
It'd be a slow discussion since we'd all be typing with one hand OH
Tingle's a super hetero womanizer who freaks out at the thought of doing anything with a guy. Half of his motivation for doing anything is to score chicks.
What "themes" does he have? He's strange and quirky so he must be dem gays?
Why? We'd be using our other hand to call up Kotaku and give differing takes on the matter.That's kinda disturbing...
The larger point even if Tingle was used because of how others view him and not really how Nintendo uses him, is that Nintendo has been a company that has allowed Gay characters in the past, be it themes or flat out homosexuality, so it was a shock that something like this game wouldn't allow for it.
Not sure what you mean by that. It's a bug that needs to be fixed since Nintendo deemed it so.Some bugs really don't need to be fixed...
Well...
Men can't push babies out of their penis. Where would it even grow.
Eh, I see this as more of a Nintendo doesn't want to get involved in politics or stuff like that instead of actually "hating" homosexuality or somesuch.
And then they stopped featuring the character in the mainline games and never bothered localizing the two games that defined him as a character... so in spite of him not being a homoseuxal, his potential appearance as a homosexual ultimately ruined him and he was never heard from again?
You're not really making much sense.
Tingle's not a valid example if they didn't actually intend him to be homosexual though. We're talking about them straight out patching inadvertent gay relationships, citing Tingle as an example of allowing that in the past when he was pointedly not gay just doesn't work as one's the assumption of a player and the other's an actual intent that's executed.I never maid that claim so don't bother.
Tingle wether rightly or wrongly is often associated with Gay's (wrongly mind) because of the male dressing up as a fairy.
The larger point even if Tingle was used because of how others view him and not really how Nintendo uses him, is that Nintendo has been a company that has allowed Gay characters in the past, be it themes or flat out homosexuality, so it was a shock that something like this game wouldn't allow for it.
More so on because of products like the Sims 3 which is on the same platform and also a life simiulator, albiet a very different kind and it allows for all sorts of relationships.
I however will just let you have whatever arguement youare having be won on whatever grounds. As I've stated, because of everything in Nintendo's past, it surprised me that Gay/Lesbian isn't something possible in a game of this nature.
Tingle's not a valid example if they didn't actually intend him to be homosexual though. We're talking about them straight out patching inadvertent gay relationships, citing Tingle as an example of allowing that in the past when he was pointedly not gay just doesn't work as one's the assumption of a player and the other's an actual intent that's executed.
Plus people's bad reactions to Tingle in the US go far beyond "he must be a gay", guy can just come off creepy as hell and excessively off putting, at an extreme seen as an attack on older game fans.
I'm just trying to figure out what it is in Nintendo's past that makes you think it's odd for them to remove it. Tingle got the ax as a recurring character, Birdo's backstory varies wildly from region to region, Captain Rainbow plays it for laughs. They've never been particularly supportive of homosexual characters.
That's pretty shitty too. In that case they would just be perpetuating the status quo that prevents gays from being presented in the media.
Agreed.The fix should of creating the female version of the "gay bug" not remove it all together.
:-/
Shameful
I just see it as Nintendo doesn't want to be bothered by it, is all. They just want to be 'neutral' and do not want to get involved in the battle between pro and against homosexuality.
But wouldn't you say that by being 'neutral' you are aiding the side that is against it? How is avoiding the representation of homosexual relationships in your media a neutral position?
Sure they do. This is discriminatory against lesbians.Some bugs really don't need to be fixed...
The bug in question, for those not aware, allows for two male characters to fall in love, marry one another, and produce offspring. It doesn't work between female characters, supposedly. The bug can occur when one has Miis that have been moved to the 3DS using the Mii transfer software.
Plus people's bad reactions to Tingle in the US go far beyond "he must be a gay", guy can just come off creepy as hell and excessively off putting, at an extreme seen as an attack on older game fans.
But wouldn't you say that by being 'neutral' you are aiding the side that is against it? How is avoiding the representation of homosexual relationships in your media a neutral position?
Agreed.
Fix the male "pregnancy" part, but enable marriage and adoption for same sex couples, male and female.
To be honest my opinion looped to favorable thanks to Wind Waker portraying him as a complete and total monster. For all the crap Ganon's guilty of we never actually see him kill anyone (though it IS implied especially in OoT) while Tingle drafts people as slaves dressed up as him to fulfill his narcissistic desires. And not only can you not challenge him on this but you actively have to pay him all your money to beat the game. He is the most despicable character Nintendo's created and he's played off for laughs, it's amazing.You just helped crystallize for me exactly why I think Tingle is awesome. An attack on one of gaming's worst fanbases, of course I'd love that haha. Anything designed to piss off people who have participated seriously in timeline discussions is worth unqualified support.
I am not really a fan of nintendo, but I hate the concept of homosexuality more than anything I can ever hate. So yeah, I hope they fix this bug and things can be normal as they are supposed to be.
I am not really a fan of nintendo, but I hate the concept of homosexuality more than anything I can ever hate. So yeah, I hope they fix this bug and things can be normal as they are supposed to be.
I am not really a fan of nintendo, but I hate the concept of homosexuality more than anything I can ever hate. So yeah, I hope they fix this bug and things can be normal as they are supposed to be.
I am not really a fan of nintendo, but I hate the concept of homosexuality more than anything I can ever hate. So yeah, I hope they fix this bug and things can be normal as they are supposed to be.