MMaRsu
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There isnt. I just dont think these 4 women would fill the shoes of those classic roles.
This whole movie is going to be hot garbage. It will not have any of the charm and wit the original ghostbusters had.
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Ghostbusters reboot cast announced - McCarthy, Wiig, Jones, McKinnon
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There isnt. I just dont think these 4 women would fill the shoes of those classic roles.
This whole movie is going to be hot garbage. It will not have any of the charm and wit the original ghostbusters had.
Kinda my point tho. Do they really need to justify the swap beyond "because?" They're still people? If they were 4 black ghostbusters, would they need a "reason"?
Oh, so kinda like McCarthy?
And for the record, everyone applauding "not casting attractive, skinny model wannabes" can fuck right off. First off, Feig doesn't do that to begin with. Second, it wouldn't make any sense in the supposed context of the movie. And lastly, find an "ensemble" piece that they did that on. Quit being so reactionary. Again, gender and looks aren't in most peoples complaint about this.
MMaRsu
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4 black ghostbusters would also be bullshit imo. Just try staying close to the freaking source.material
Yikes.
Man I didn't realize that a cracking wise bunch of dudes who exterminated ghosts and giant marshmallow men were so sacrosanct.
Nothing but the Ghostbusters have always been male... It feels more like a statement making a full female cast of a franchise which has had 4 male leads since the 80s. I struggle to think of a film with full female leads being rebooted into all male leads.
Daffy Duck
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No I don't think the only people who saw it cinemas were women, I'm not twisting the way the world works, but there are types of films that appeal more to one gender than others.
I even said in my original post, rightly or wrongly.
MMaRsu
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I dont see how your so obtuse about people wanting the classics not to be fucked with and rebooted into straight to dvd hell.
canoli2006
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Thank you. The OverreactionGAF is in full force. For the record, if any of you are old enough to remember the cartoon, Janine became a Ghostbuster and I'm sure no one had a problem with it.
Why? Because she was an intregal part of the storyline!!
Rabbi_Vole
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I wonder if McCarthy is going to get ghost -dicked like Akroyd..
Would it be considered ghost rape?
Would it be considered ghost rape?
Daffy Duck
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Ulitmately time will tell as to how well this does and how good the story actually manages to be and what direction they take it in.
BertramCooper
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Could that possibly be because there's a dearth of female-centric tentpole film franchises in the first place?
MMaRsu
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What? I have nothing against black people MT, i just dont think it would be a right fit.
Or should we also cast five asian guys in the A-Team reboot?
No ofcourse they shouldnt.
MT backseat modding certainly ia bannable.
True, certainly possible. To me it would just be like rebooting Tomb Raider and making the lead a male.
Holy shit, that was bad... I was literally stone faced the whole time. Definitely have my doubts about the non-Bridesmaids half of the cast members.
Can you please try to explain why you think women and black lead cast would destroy the film's charm and wit?
I personally don't consider race when I decide what I'm going to watch. If I did I would have a really issue going to the theater.
No way. There are tons of all female tentpole franchises. I'd give you tons of examples if I could think of any. There's just an inherent anti-male bias in our culture right now. I think it's because of fluoride in the water.
MMaRsu
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Wow.. Terribad
canoli2006
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Hey let's reboot Sex in the City and replace the characters you know and love with all male leads!!!
Nooooooooooope
Rabbi_Vole
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Bannable? Lol. If this is a reboot, it's safe to say it will re-create a number of memorable scenes The Dan Aykroyd ghost sex scene is pretty well-known.
And "adding to the discussion?" We're discussing Ghostbusters, not human rights in the Congo.
It's been done to death. It's called pornography.
WordAssassin
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Premature nitpicking? These things are UNIVERSAL through ALL versions of Ghostbusters: Ecto 1, Proton Packs. You can upgrade the car, you can upgrade the packs, you can change the model of the car, you can make the pack shoot out something other than protons, but getting rid of those things entirely is fucking ludicrous because they are massive staples to the franchise. Even the video game understood this. The Proton Packs are not mass produced by Apple. They were illegally assembled in a condemned firehouse by evicted college students.
OH THAT REMINDS ME
They're getting rid of the firehouse too.
So this Ghostbusters movie won't have the Ghostbusters characters, it won't have the firehouse, it won't have the car, and they're completely changing the method that they hunt ghosts.
People want it to be connected to the originals even without the whole original cast because there is an enormously rich and untapped world to explore and instead we're getting the exact same origin story again.
And yes I would have much rather someone go into the Real Ghostbusters well to adapt something like the amazing Boogyman arc into a movie over throwing in the towel and fucking rebooting the whole thing. That's what I'm trying to get at here, you have a man hired to write a new entry into the Ghostbusters series, and when he can't come up with something, instead of looking to the hundreds of stories written in the cartoons and comics, he just went "Welp I'm gonna just start from scratch and redo the first story" and that fucking SUCKS.
Nothing that makes sense in context would need a reason, if it was 4 black Gb's and they were operating in a area of higher black population or a family business then everyone would just accept it without much fuss. Having no context for a complete gender swap obviously doesn't make much sense as it has caused so much discussion on a board that would break it's back to prove how PC it is.
Characters who are so well known and engraved in movie fans psyche can't just be hand waved away or changed without reason or it really stands out and becomes more of a focus then the movie itself.
MMaRsu
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Did I ever say that? Jesus christ yall are trying to paint me as some mysagonist racist or something while I deeply enjoy films that star a diverse cast of race and gender.
Im just saying if you are going to reboot a wildly known frnachise and use a very different cast then the original, the feel of that original movie is lost.
Jesus christ some of you fuckers really are dense as hell.
Also, MT when I go to the movies I will pick out a movie based on if it looks to be good, not if it has any black people in it. Jesus.
So since we aren't discussing human rights in the Congo you can drive by post about "ghost rape"
Rabbi_Vole
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Was it not ghost rape in the original?
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MMaRsu
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Haha jesus so why are you in this thread again? It seems you are just here to call people out and asking for bans
BertramCooper
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You've listed a number of significant changes that have already been revealed and then say that "we're getting the exact same origin story again."
Does not compute.
canoli2006
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The original ghostbusters go on one last adventure and get trapped in another dimension just outside hells door and Dana Barrett and Janine Melnitz have no choice but to strap on proton packs and rescue the ghostbusters. A hilarious sci fi romp ensues.
See? An example of a storyline that holds true to the franchise with a mostly all female cast.
See? An example of a storyline that holds true to the franchise with a mostly all female cast.
I was getting that "charm and wit" part directly from you, actually.
So I'll ask again, or perhaps rephrase it like this: why is the charm and wit of the film dependent on the sex and ethnicity of the actors being as true as possible to that of the original cast?
Triggerhappytel
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Completely agree. I love the original two films, but poor old Ernie Hudson was blatantly in there as an afterthought.
I don't have much of an opinion about this really. I don't mind that they're rebooting with an all-female cast, and the only two I know are Wiig and McCarthy. Interested to see how this turns out.
CrichtonKicks
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Melissa McCarthy is probably one of the most consistently successful comedy stars in the past few years. Even her film, Tammy, which was hated by both audiences and critics, still managed to make $85 million.
MMaRsu
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Its not. The casting is just shit. Thats why I said the film wont have the same charm and wit. It has nothing to do with gender.
Daffy Duck
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Where did you get all that info from?
I'm interested to know the premise for this film.
I'm not racist or anything, but I feel like giving more screen time to the black character takes away from the spirit of the originals. If you wanted a movie with a black lead why call it ghostbusters? Why not make something else?
Nappuccino
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I hope they have a male secretary. Seriously.
That said, I wish they had picked someone other than McCarthy--yes, I know she's brought in the bucks before, but I'm worried that they'll turn her character into a sterotype instead of a character. Honestly, that's my fear for the reboot no matter who was casted, what gender they are, or what race they are. Part of what made the original work so well is that the characters, thoughoff, felt rather grounded. I can see them gunning entirely for laughs and missing some of the point.
But anyone saying that the Ghostbusters couldn't be female or black or asian or anything else is hilariously unaware of their own shitty perspective.
That said, I wish they had picked someone other than McCarthy--yes, I know she's brought in the bucks before, but I'm worried that they'll turn her character into a sterotype instead of a character. Honestly, that's my fear for the reboot no matter who was casted, what gender they are, or what race they are. Part of what made the original work so well is that the characters, thoughoff, felt rather grounded. I can see them gunning entirely for laughs and missing some of the point.
But anyone saying that the Ghostbusters couldn't be female or black or asian or anything else is hilariously unaware of their own shitty perspective.
Wow, really trying to wedge that strawman in there.
MMaRsu
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Pfff jesus way to be an obtuse ass about it. Holy shit. Peterb0y and his non arguments.
That's certainly not what you were saying earlier (the film with four women being something that men would only see with their girlfriends, etc).
Violence Jack
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Don't care that much that they have 4 women this time around, but they missed a golden opportunity not having Tina Fey and Amy Poheler somewhere in that group.
UncleCross
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That's just how OT GAF is. If you don't automatically hate white males then they try to paint you as a bad person. It's really quite sad.
Ol No Bones
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Is this supposed to be funny?
Brutalitops
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Meh.
Would much rather that Channing Tatum/Chris Pratt movie
Would much rather that Channing Tatum/Chris Pratt movie
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