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Ghostbusters reboot cast announced - McCarthy, Wiig, Jones, McKinnon
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Anybody blaming bill murray yet?
WordAssassin
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A couple pages back, yeah. Not me, I mean, but I saw it.
I need to go to sleep or I'm gonna croak and then who're you gonna call? X__X
Clinton514
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I don't know any of them. I just hope it's about Ghost-busting and not a feminist movement.
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Don't know why anyone would. Dude even came in to do VO on that pretty decent ghostbusters game that came out 5 years ago. I kinda took that to be the last hurrah of the old cast and am ready to see something new.
starting to feel like some of the GGs are bubbling up in this thread.
canoli2006
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I'd say thank you.
Let me put it this way; there would've been a shitload less backlash if
- the story would've continued on what is already established.
- the cast was not a blatant carbon copy of the original cast with their dicks chopped off and tits glued on
There's no problem with an all-female cast, if they got their own GB franchise. I dunno, four girl friends, down on their luck, with the last bits of their savings, they decide to take over a GB franchise. But, I don't know, get some decent actresses in there, like Rashida Jones, Alison Brie, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler. You know, people that are actually funny.
And you can even easily connect it with the original films, by showing the OG GB advertising for their GB franchise, and maybe even wheeling them in half way through the film to help the newbs with the big giant threat they're facing, a threat the world hasn't seen since Vigo came to town.
- the story would've continued on what is already established.
- the cast was not a blatant carbon copy of the original cast with their dicks chopped off and tits glued on
There's no problem with an all-female cast, if they got their own GB franchise. I dunno, four girl friends, down on their luck, with the last bits of their savings, they decide to take over a GB franchise. But, I don't know, get some decent actresses in there, like Rashida Jones, Alison Brie, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler. You know, people that are actually funny.
And you can even easily connect it with the original films, by showing the OG GB advertising for their GB franchise, and maybe even wheeling them in half way through the film to help the newbs with the big giant threat they're facing, a threat the world hasn't seen since Vigo came to town.
BertramCooper
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I'll cross-post this statement from the other, less active Ghostbusters thread:
Ghostbusters fans don't get to unilaterally determine what is or isn't Ghostbusters.
We're talking about a film series that has only two films. Yes, there have been TV shows, novelizations, merchandise, and tons of other media developed from the films, but that's not unusual, nor should the films really be held to anything that occurred in those ancillary works.
For you to impose this long list of requirements on a two-film series is crazy. These movies don't have to operate under a James Bond-style checklist just because you say they should.
Dammit.. I groggily saw this thread when I woke up this morning and then went back to sleep. All day I was wondering if I had been dreaming or not.
I have been overjoyed to read the trickle of rumours over the last few years that Ackroyd and co. were working on script ideas for a 3rd ghostbusters movie. I was about 12 when the first one came out and it blew my mind. The humour, effects, storyline.. The original is still in my top 5 movies.
So imagine my disappointment to login to neogaf tonight and see that this disaster is really happening. No members of the original cast.. No firehouse.. No hearse.. And an all female cast? What the fucking fuckity fuck-fuck? Argh I'm out.
Wordassassin is far more eloquent than me but I agree with what he says.
I have been overjoyed to read the trickle of rumours over the last few years that Ackroyd and co. were working on script ideas for a 3rd ghostbusters movie. I was about 12 when the first one came out and it blew my mind. The humour, effects, storyline.. The original is still in my top 5 movies.
So imagine my disappointment to login to neogaf tonight and see that this disaster is really happening. No members of the original cast.. No firehouse.. No hearse.. And an all female cast? What the fucking fuckity fuck-fuck? Argh I'm out.
Wordassassin is far more eloquent than me but I agree with what he says.
Triggerhappytel
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Honestly, I'm not invested in its success or failure either way, but considering Sony also financed another much-loved '80s film reboot flop earlier this year in RoboCop I'm surprised they're going through it all again with Ghostbusters.
Spoiler: They really don't.
You're right - the story and most of the VO acting was excellent. Is it on PC? I've sold my last gen consoles but would like to play through it again, just to hear all the guys together.
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it regularly goes on sale for $2 two to three times a year now. The only issues i had with it is that your 360 controller has to be off when loading the game or else it crashes and that some of the cutscene animations are animated in 30 fps even if you're playing it @ 60fps. Small issues, really, and the game handles downsampling with no issues whatsoever : )
Intheflorsh
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Tina Fey is now the Idris Elba of comedy actresses thanks to this thread.
Agent Gibbs
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Urge to finally get a gaming PC.. Rising..! Thanks for the info
This post is pretty stupid.
"Yes, there have been countless hours of Ghostbusters content based on this premise, but that doesn't make it canon -- all they really need to do is hunt ghosts be funny and call it Ghostbusters and the job is done."
The movie might actually suck and the dude has a point about how far they're straying from the original ideas. No need to ride so hard for it yet, much less call the guy you're replying to "crazy" when he obviously isn't.
canoli2006
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Risible
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....wha? So the only people complaining are straight guys? The fuck?
Another Upworthy-quality post from anaron!
I think Wordassassin summed it all up for me pretty well. I have almost the exact same opinions so I won't restate all that.
I'll only add that on a personal note (and I'm 39 now) that I don't know who 3 of these actresses are. I only know of Kristen Wiig from SNL, and I never found her funny. Maybe that's selling her short tho, as I have not found SNL itself to be that funny in many years so I largely gave up watching.
In general, "Girl Power" humor has never appealed to me. If I were a tween girl, this cast might be exciting to me, I just don't know. If they had a mix of male and female Ghostbusters, I'd be willing to give it a chance. If they had an old cast member or two in the movie to "connect" them a little, that would be agreeable.
But I just can't get behind a reboot concept, especially with this cast. Zero interest. If that makes me sexist or some other label for having an opinion, whatever.
I'll only add that on a personal note (and I'm 39 now) that I don't know who 3 of these actresses are. I only know of Kristen Wiig from SNL, and I never found her funny. Maybe that's selling her short tho, as I have not found SNL itself to be that funny in many years so I largely gave up watching.
In general, "Girl Power" humor has never appealed to me. If I were a tween girl, this cast might be exciting to me, I just don't know. If they had a mix of male and female Ghostbusters, I'd be willing to give it a chance. If they had an old cast member or two in the movie to "connect" them a little, that would be agreeable.
But I just can't get behind a reboot concept, especially with this cast. Zero interest. If that makes me sexist or some other label for having an opinion, whatever.
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you're absolutely right, misogynists come in all shapes and size. that post should be updated to reflect that.
What makes you think this will be some sort of GIRL POWER production when no one involved has ever done such a thing?
Vincent Grayson
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Paul Feig has done no wrong yet, IMO, so I'm eager to see where this goes.
Care to explain what GG means and why you find it fitting to my post?
BertramCooper
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People in this thread act like Aykroyd and Ramis are the ultimate authorities when it comes to Ghostbusters, and several have complained about their lack of involvement in this film (Ramis' involvement obviously being impossible at this point).
Yet somehow the glut of ancillary Ghostbusters media, very little of which was created by them, is supposed to be gospel for the franchise? That's ridiculous.
My point is that the Ghostbusters film series is barely much of a series as at all, and therefore, it shouldn't be held to a massive checklist of rigid standards, especially when we're talking about a reimagining.
rrvv
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Wait! I need source of this
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If i have to explain what's wrong with the section of your post that i bolded then there's no sense in explaining what's wrong with the section of your post that i bolded.
What is girl power humor tho?
Well, there's that of course, or you could explain what GG means and what's wrong with calling out an unimaginative casting where every single cast member is literally a genderswapped copy of the original cast. Maybe I could've worded it differently, but I don't see anything wrong with stating that a reboot that starts off with a casting that lacks any form of artistic creativity is at least somewhat disheartening to some.
But if you differ in opinion, please, do elaborate.
Agent Gibbs
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he's referring to Gamer Gate and insinuating your views are sexist
DoktorEvil
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Dat hypocrisy.
I had the same feelings for Robocop first going into the reboot.
Coming out of it, I asked myself why wasn't Michael K. Williams Robocop? He felt more of a guy I can see behind the helmet much more than Joel Kinnaman AND I would try to rationalize why there is a white cop playing Robocop in a predominantly black city like Detroit in the future and not a black cop in a predominantly black city.
Then I realized that there would be people who'd freak and lose their shit and claim "but the reboot, but the sanctity of the original" and choose not to watch it anyways, because of some misguided and delusional obsession of the past that supposedly needed continuity to be held.
So the people freaking out about a female reboot of something so... petty as Ghostbusters need to fuck off kindly and focus on the writing.
If Feig can get across the same idea of the NYC governmental incompetence that the first movie got across so damn well, this will be in my DVD collection alongside the first one.
Secret Fawful
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The similarities end at three white people and one black person. They aren't playing the same characters or gender-swapped versions of them.
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captur...new-ghostbusters-what-should-audiences-expect
Here, a link to the report that people have repeatedly ignored even though it's been posted multiple times.
Bobby Roberts
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It's EGON Spengler, not SHEGON Spengler
It's Ray STANTZ, not Ray WOMANTZ
It's Peter VENKMAN, not Peter NOTAMAN
It's Winston ZEDDEMORE, not Winston ZED-DAME-MORE
Bobby Roberts
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Yunno, if you wanted to be insidious about it, I bet you could get people to start using "Egon not Shegon" unironically.
This article is a mess, but I get the characters will be written specifically for the actresses. That seems a bit better than what I originally anticipated. You have to admit, by the tweet alone, how one could come to the conclusion that they were carbon copies.
And, as I stated, an all-female Ghostbusters isn't necessarily bad, it's just a shame they're rebooting, instead of going forward with the established universe.
I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Folks pulling Ghostbusters nerd cards? Is this real life?
I think the actual movie will end up turning out fine, but I have a feeling the movie will be a moderate bomb in the box office. I've always thought the original cast carried the first movie and a lot of that charm is going to be lost in the reboot. That and I wonder how many people will opt to pass up on this movie simply because the original movie has aged pretty well and doesn't really need a reboot/remake.
I just did a search on twitter and I'm very surprised there were no results for #egonnotshegon
So, anyone who dislikes the cast choices is a misogynist? You know there are actually more than four women available to play acting roles in the world, right?
Ignoring the weird detour into Akroyd/Ramis authorship, which neither I nor the poster you replied to mentioned. Anyway!
Sure, you *can* make a Ghostbusters movie without it being about a ragtag group of nerds who start a business, or having it take place in a converted firehouse (complete with alarms for emergency calls), or having the nerds use cobbled-together gear (including their converted car) -- and instead have them use slick gear.
You can also reboot Star Trek and change the scale/economy of everything there, too -- reversing the slickifying of the new Ghostbusters (since The Enterprise is on such a grand scale), I guess that would mean Captain Kirk flying a jalopy around the galaxy as the leader of a group of mercenaries.
You could reboot the Ninja Turtles so that they don't live in the sewers anymore and eat sushi.
You could reboot Back to the Future and have the time travel vessel be a rigged-up Lay-Z-Boy, or maybe have Doc be working for the CIA instead of being on his own.
You could reboot Rocky and have it take place in Korea and make Rocky a Tae Kwon Do expert instead of a boxer.
But why the fuck would you?
This post lays out some legit concerns and you just called him crazy for no reason. I dunno if you're riding hard because you're worried about sexism or what, but I don't feel it.
Secret Fawful
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No way I'm asleep on this shit. Somebody's gotta keep some occasional sanity in this topic. lol ohh this topic.
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when some of the reactions seem to be "wahhh wahhhhh it's just the old cast with tits and girl power!" then, yeah, you can say what i said with a straight face. Seems some people have qualms outside of that though, so i'll grant you that much.
because i don't want the same exact movie all over again, i want something that takes the skeleton of GB's and makes it its own thing. Otherwise, i'd just watch the first 2 movies till the end of time and be done with it.
To me, ghostbusters is about a rag tag group of 4 people coming together to bust ghosts and that, in turn, will hopefully make them feel good and make me laugh a few times. that's the core of the experience, no? So let them mix this up so that new people might actually go see this and that the old fans get something new.
canoli2006
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Yes it's real life as opposed to some of the comments in this thread like if you're opposed to an all female cast you're labeled sexist. Opposed to an all black cast you get called racist.
Nappuccino
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This, I definitely agree with. I have no idea if the movie is actually going to be good or not (because there's zero way to know that, right now), but I don't think having a female cast is going to be the reason one way or the other. It'll come down to writing and acting and directing. It can easily be good or even great. Hell, Ghostbusters 2 is not that high a bar.
First I was sexist, then I was posing as a Ghostbusters fan, now I'm a nerd.
I wish you could all get together and decide was I am and let me when you've reached a consensus.
Nappuccino
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You're Pillville.
I disagree, misogynist.
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