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Captain America: Civil War - First impressions (Full review embargo lifts Apr 13)
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Zeyphersan
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That was actually super enjoyable to read, thank you
Kurt Busiek coming in hot
BrokenFiction
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Mark Waid no...
The 90s were dark times.
peanutbutterlatte
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"But it's probably the best we can expect of a movie with huge licensing needs."
We live in a blessed age.
BronsonLee
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I don't even feel like my impressions were too heavy
Critics tore that shit APART and I'm still iffy on it
Let's not get crazy here. I really liked Iron Man 3 until the ending.
EDIT: The best MCU film is Winter Soldier clearly.
That was an interesting 'who blinks first' event. I remember the guys over at variety were losing it on twitter.
My man.
TheOfficeMut
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Captain America: Civil War |OT| BvS was a mistake, it is nothing but trash
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Russo if you can, Snyder if you can't
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Warner Brothers on suicide watch
Captain America: Civil War |OT| From the men who brought you Carfuckers
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Meow
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Martha ain't in this so you know it's good
Captain America: Civil War |OT| The only superhero movie not ruining it for the rest
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Just promise me we can still have shawarma
Captain America: Civil War |OT| HULK AND THOR ARE NOT IN THIS BUT THANOS IS
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Starring Idris Elba as a cat
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Russo if you can, Snyder if you can't
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Warner Brothers on suicide watch
Captain America: Civil War |OT| From the men who brought you Carfuckers
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Meow
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Martha ain't in this so you know it's good
Captain America: Civil War |OT| The only superhero movie not ruining it for the rest
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Just promise me we can still have shawarma
Captain America: Civil War |OT| HULK AND THOR ARE NOT IN THIS BUT THANOS IS
Captain America: Civil War |OT| Starring Idris Elba as a cat
your movie opinions continue to be spot on
....ok I'll pretend I didn't read that ;p
maximum360
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Being better than Age of Ultron would not be a difficult endeavor at all.
maximum360
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Iron Man 3 is one Pepper Pots Deus Ex Machina away from being best Iron Man. That shitty ending though
Still the first 9/10 of that movies are great though. Loved the Tony character arc.
Winter Soldier was a better movie though.
I dunno. I felt the Iron Man movies went downhill after the first one. I have no desire to see another one.
QuantumZebra
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Spidey 2 is probably nostalgia talking. I haven't seen it in a loooooooooooooong time.
From an honest/objective standpoint, I'd say its pretty clearly Winter Soldier vs. The Dark Knight vs. Batman Begins
Seems like this movie is going to give them all a run for their money, though.
Iron Man 3 is so underrated its absurd. It's a great film. The ending is what people get hung up on (I thought it was totally fine tbh), but that aside its still awesome.
brandonh83
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It isn't. The impeccably structured script and popping action sequences stand the test of time. That movie has pacing and character development that is done so well that it feels like the writers and Raimi made it look easy.
Two was definitely the weakest I think, but I really enjoyed most of three. Shell-shocked Tony having to overcome his own doubts to get back to who he was hit all the right beats for me. Really thinking how great that movie could've been then realizing how it ends...well that just depresses me.
But back to Civil War, I can't wait for tomorrow!
QuantumZebra
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I have a weird opinion on this. it's not my personal favorite comic book movie but I think Marvel's The Avengers is the best comic book movie in that it successfully translated so many aspects of superhero comics to the big screen. the tone, the humor, the color, the action, the fun, the visual gags, stuff like that. it feels like a comic book movie, not just a movie that's about comic book characters.
honestly my big gripe with raimi's spider man movies is how hard they whiffed on pete and mary jane. if you look at the first two movies they were carried largely by the villains and then in the third movie they whiffed hard on the villains so you're left with a big pile of souped up nothing.
brandonh83
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Heh, this is exactly how I feel about the Spiderman movies. Especially with Raimi's cinematography which is so much more vibrant and energetic. The fights he did for me were so much better than watching the Avengers people destroy mindless robots. For me nothing has topped that train scene in Spiderman 2. Avengers was still pretty well done, don't get me wrong, I'm not harping on it. But when it comes to the "look" of a comic on screen, I feel like Raimi has did the best job so far.
I was actually going to make that point in that The Avengers felt like the first two Raimi movies except Marvel knocked the characterization of its leads out of the park
My man.
I love Iron Man 1 for what it started, what it represents and it's great first half - but the second half ran on fumes and the final encounter was shitty.
Iron Man 3 had a solid run from beginning to end with an actual consistent story behind it, that also didn't rely on the suit to tell the story but Tony's own ingenuity. While the final skirmish isn't amazing, none of the previous IM movies are better. Plus the movie had that amazing airplane sequence. The first two IM movies were pretty passive but this is the first one I feel that was more active.
brandonh83
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The characterization is debatable and for me a little subjective; I had no problems with the portrayal of them. The characterization in Avengers is also very good. I just mean on like, technical filmmaking terms I guess. Spider-man 2 is still pretty much the most pitch-perfect superhero movie for me personally.
The Outsider
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The theater holding my screening has Jungle Book showing in IMAX tomorrow night at 7. Booooo. Was hoping the screening would be IMAX.
QuantumZebra
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Exactly. I really struggle to remember anything about 1 or 2 beyond 1's initial Iron Man origin story. I know Jeff Bridges was the baddie, and Mickey Rourke was in 2 (and that one guy with the robots), but sheesh it was flat.
3 was a fun movie with a great take on Tony's PTSD and a deconstruction of what it is to be a hero in a way.
yeah I value those technical types of things less than feeling like the character on the screen is who they are supposed to be. I feel like the only characters from Raimi's movies that can compare to what Marvel did in Avengers are Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin and J. K. Simmons as JJJ. Molina as Ock was quite good but not up to snuff with the others imo.
also the Marvel movies taught me that I value the characterization of the leads more so than the characterization of the villains. some of the villains in the MCU movies can be kind of weak sauce but because the leads are so well done it doesn't really bother me as much.
I always say that the Raimi Spider Man movies are very good but to me they don't actually feel like Spider Man movies. he doesn't get what is essential to the portrayal of the character imo. so with something like the first Iron Man, where I felt the performance from The Dude was kind of lackluster, it still felt like an Iron Man movie through and through because RDJ is just too damn good in that role.
basically the review from Civil War that says this:
[Spiderman's] introduction to the action is resoundingly joyous, the reboot the character truly deserves. (“I don’t know if you’ve been in a fight before,” he’s told by one opponent, “but there’s not usually this much talk.”
shows me that Marvel gets the character more so than Raimi ever did and personally stuff like that is why I don't like the Raimi movies as much as others do.
BrokenFiction
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Dammit. Time to leave the thread if this is happening.
For fun: The 1995 version of twitter impressions:
Waid has it right.
I just watched Batman Forever the other day and it isn't shit. It's a better watching experience than Batman v Superman, and it might just have the most comic-accurate depiction of Batman in a movie. He's got the bat-cave, he invents stuff, he tries to reform people, he's haunted by his parent's death, he reluctantly takes on a sidekick, he has gadgets and uses batarangs, he does cool shit.
Batman & Robin poisoned Batman Forever.
There's a lot of stuff I hate about Forever, but I'll always give it credit for daring to have Batman get over his parents' death, and choose to be Batman because he can be. And yeah, O'Donnell was fine as Robin. Sorta. He felt more Jason Todd-y for the first while, but yeah.
Pai Pai Master
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Spoilers Daniel bruhl looks like Daniel bruhl
Yeah.
There's a really great Batman story at the core of that film, obscured by a godawful Two-Face and silly Riddler plan. Batman working through his traumas (and they are presented as genuine, PTSD-like traumas) is great character development.
There are also some really great images in that film, like Two-Face's helicopter destroying one-half of the face of Gotham City's Statue of Liberty stand-in. That could be a great comic book cover.
Use the title of a community episode eg
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Captain America: Civil War |OT| Spanish 101
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Captain America: Civil War |OT| Debate 109
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Yes, it has to be this one. HAS TO BE.
ViewtifulJC
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if ya'll put a BvS reference in the OT title, ya'll deserve everything ya'll get
bananafactory
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Byakuya769
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Kid time hurt three for me. It's still good and has some of the best scenes.Iron Man 3 is one Pepper Pots Deus Ex Machina away from being best Iron Man. That shitty ending though
Still the first 9/10 of that movies are great though. Loved the Tony character arc.
Winter Soldier was a better movie though.
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bananafactory
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Well, at least you brought it on yourselves
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