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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -6| How much lower can we go?!

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duckroll

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It's the closest thing you could say he has made similar to a traditional summer blockbuster.
Nah, I'll say his One Piece movie is even more of a traditional summer blockbuster. Summer Wars is one too, but One Piece is a franchise movie to boot. :p
 

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Usually when there are no numbers to be found, it means extremely low sales. For example, I don't think there are any complete numbers for Sword of the Stranger either.
Found the DVD sales:

*47 217 *29,510 *29,510 *5 The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo) Limited Edition

Will see about the bluray.
 

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The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo) (Movie) 81,709+20,757=102,466 (cumulative sales of all versions)
2007/04/20 29,510 Premium Edition
2007/04/20 47,476 Standard Edition
2012/07/11 *4,723
2008/07/25 10,684
2012/07/11 10,073​
 

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The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo) (Movie) 81,709+20,757=102,466 (cumulative sales of all versions) (Madhouse/Bandai Entertainment))
2007/04/20 29,510 Premium Edition
2007/04/20 47,476 Standard Edition
2012/07/11 *4,723
2008/07/25 10,684
2012/07/11 10,073​
Was just about to post that. Not bad.

Also, Dennou Coil sales:

Dennou Coil *2,534 (9, not including BOX) (Madhouse)
2007/09/25 *3,978 Vol. 1 Limited Edition (Two episodes)
2007/10/26 *2,784 Vol. 2 Limited Edition (Three episodes up to Vol. 9)
2007/11/23 *2,348 Vol. 3 Limited Edition
2007/12/21 *2,270 Vol. 4 Limited Edition
2008/01/25 *2,445 Vol. 5 Limited Edition
2008/02/22 *2,081 Vol. 6 Limited Edition
2008/03/25 *2,419 Vol. 7 Limited Edition
2008/04/25 *2,232 Vol. 8 Limited Edition
2008/05/23 *2,246 Vol. 9 Limited Edition
2011/11/25 *1,980 Blu-ray Disc BOX (Twenty-six episodes)

 

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That's honestly not as bad as I was expecting Dennou Coil to be. Probably still lost money, but I imagined three digit numbers all this time.
Denno Coil is apparently one of the most expensive 2-cour TV anime ever made. I read that the budget was something like 360k per episode or something. If that's true. It would have had to sell 14k per volume just to break even. Lol.
 

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Denno Coil is apparently one of the most expensive 2-cour TV anime ever made. I read that the budget was something like 360k per episode or something. If that's true. It would have had to sell 14k per volume just to break even. Lol.
God damn.. no wonder NHK so mad lol
 

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Denno Coil is apparently one of the most expensive 2-cour TV anime ever made. I read that the budget was something like 360k per episode or something. If that's true. It would have had to sell 14k per volume just to break even. Lol.
Damn, so that's why Mitsuo Iso has been shamed out of the industry.
 

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BACCANO! *3,389 (8, not including BOX) (Brains Base/FUNimation)
2007/10/24 *3,263 Vol. 1 (Two episodes up to Vol. 8)
2007/11/28 *3,137 Vol. 2
2007/12/26 *3,557 Vol. 3
2008/01/23 *3,177 Vol. 4
2008/02/27 *3,613 Vol. 5 (including one unaired episode)
2008/03/26 *3,267 Vol. 6
2008/04/23 *3,299 Vol. 7 (including one unaired episode up to Vol. 8)
2008/05/28 *3,796 Vol. 8
2011/01/26 *2,513 Blu-ray Disc BOX (Sixteen episodes)

Durarara!! 18,310 (13, not including BOX) (Brain's Base/Aniplex of America)
2010/02/24 29,653 Vol. 1 Limited Edition (Two episodes up to Vol. 13)
2010/03/24 27,439 Vol. 2 LE
2010/04/21 23,332 Vol. 3 LE
2010/05/26 22,267 Vol. 4 LE
2010/06/23 18,397 Vol. 5 LE
2010/07/21 17,017 Vol. 6 LE
2010/08/25 19,165 Vol. 7 LE (including unaired episode)
2010/09/22 14,388 Vol. 8 LE
2010/10/27 13,904 Vol. 9 LE
2010/11/24 12,797 Vol. 10 LE
2010/12/22 13,041 Vol. 11 LE
2011/01/26 11,788 Vol. 12 LE
2011/02/23 14,851 Vol. 13 LE (including unaired episode)
2012/05/23 *5,645 Blu-ray Disc BOX (Twenty-six episodes)
 

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I wonder how much of the drop offs for a popular series after vol1 are due to a situation like:

- Person A sees Vol1 of XXYY in a store. Buys it and likes it.
- Person A is now aware of the series and wants to buy the rest, and goes looking for the best price for future pre-orders, and buys from Amazon Japan which iirc is not tracked by Oricon.
Amazon.co.jp is on Oricon's list.
 

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Woah, speaking of Animesuki, you guys reminded me to check the KyoAni thread there and I saw this posted.

TV -> BD Changes


Sorry if it was already posted, but lol good god.
I can't se the difference on most of them. Even in the little square. :/

I guess I'll need glasses
 

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Woah, speaking of Animesuki, you guys reminded me to check the KyoAni thread there and I saw this posted.

TV -> BD Changes

Sorry if it was already posted, but lol good god.
It's pretty hard to tell the difference in those thanks to the compression but I did notice they changed the beginning of the "horror" part in the first episode to be more consistent with the rest of it. *wrong, see post below*

 

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The Tatami Galaxy (Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei) *2,430+*3,235=*5,665 (4) (Madhouse/FUNimation)

Hanasaku Iroha **,452+*8,079=*8,531 (9) (P.A.Works)

Birdy the Mighty Decode (Tetsuwan Birdy DECODE) *1,712 (7) (A-1 Pictures/FUNimation)

Birdy the Mighty Decode:02 (Tetsuwan Birdy DECODE:02) ***977 (6) (A1 Pictures/FUNimation)

Colorful (Movie) *2,115+*2,539=*4,654 (cumulative sales of all versions) (Ascension)

Infinite Ryvius (Mugen no Ryvius) 10,856 (9, not including DVD-BOX and Fan Discs) (Sunrise/Bandai Entertainment)

Haibane Renmei *5,183 (5, not including BOX) (Radix Entertainmnet/Geneon USA)
2010/07/22 *3,936 Blu-ray BOX (Thirteen episodes)

And Yet the Town Moves (Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru) **,563+*1,639=*2,202 (6) (Shaft/Sentai Filmworks))

Stranger -Mukoh Hadan- (Movie) *5,802 (cumulative sales of all versions) (Bones)

CANAAN *1,240+*2,957=*4,197 (6, not including BOX) (P.A. Works/Sentai Filmworks)

Umineko no Naku Koro ni ***861+***528=*1,389 (13) (Studio Deen)

Tora Dora! 10,568 (8, not including BOX) (J.C.Staff/NIS America)
2011/12/21 21,903 Blu-ray BOX (Twenty-five episodes and two new episodes)
Hanasaku Iroha officially Ando's most popular work, the otaku absolutely hate Birdy despite it having everything they supposedly like, and JMAN still isn't coming back.
 

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I can't se the difference on most of them. Even in the little square. :/

I guess I'll need glasses
Basically, they fix the shading under Satoshi's arm and fill in some of Chitanda's eyebrow between her bangs. Other than that, it was adding the extra digit in the clock display and fixing typos in the menus.
 

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Woah, speaking of Animesuki, you guys reminded me to check the KyoAni thread there and I saw this posted.

TV -> BD Changes


Sorry if it was already posted, but lol good god.
Hyouka is the next-gen of anime. So many diminishing returns on these improvements.

Of course it doesn't help when you use an awful jpeg full of artifacts and shrunken images to show the changes.
 

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http://i.minus.com/in4kfpysYz6AZ.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]
Yes, yes, the [B]Teekyu [/B]collection also went on sale last week, but obviously didn't sell well enough to make the higher cut for the early list. We'll find out its numbers later.
 

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Basically, they fix the shading under Satoshi's arm and fill in some of Chitanda's eyebrow between her bangs. Other than that, it was adding the extra digit in the clock display and fixing typos in the menus.
Yeah, I just noticed the little boxes highlighting the differences. based kyoani so good they hardly need to redraw anything :bow :bow

Seriously guys are those bad numbers for Jojo I'm legit worried.
10k+ DVD&BD combined is considered to be pretty successful so there's nothing to worry about!

Yes, yes, the Teekyu collection also went on sale last week, but obviously didn't sell well enough to make the higher cut for the early list. We'll find out its numbers later.
That sucks. :( I'd totally buy it if it had english subs.
 

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Except Wolf Children made way more at the box office than Summer Wars. Like, 2.5 times more.

Summer Wars: 1.65 billion yen
Wolf Children: 4.1 billion yen

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/細田守
This is why I'm baffled at the sales. Maybe fertygo's right and most potential buyers had seen it in theaters so they didn't buy a disc or something...

I just remembered to those dem tasty armpits and collar bone on that Hyouka's ED..

Ok, I'm not talking about my fetish again.. Here some interesting blog post to make this post abit useful about how close Hyouka and some other anime actually animated in HD resolution

http://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/animation-quality-and-anibin/

I wonder if that legit.
Lol, I hope it's legit because I also reference that site regarding the resolution most anime is produced in. I wish I understood what the pictures meant though.
Edit: Ah, I just realized that the site doesn't have Kanon. Shame, since Kanon is supposed to be the first anime KyoAni produced in HD.
 

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KyoAni's subtle fixes shame SHAFT.
But subtle fixes aren't unusual. I see comparisons like this for almost every major series these days. Girls und Panzer also have like a gazillion corrections which range from shadows, clipping, minor background faces, texture detailing, positioning, etc. Stuff which is almost unnoticeable.
 

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Don't look directly at it, or you will probably die. Not a bad episode. I'm treating this show like a Saturday Morning cartoon, so I expect nothing AMAZING for a little while. Plus I'm kinda thinking ten episodes is the time it takes for a mecha show to hit its stride.
IIRC it takes around 20 for this one. But it's worth it.
Although you were hating on some good stuff so that might not be the case for you.
 

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This show is just kind of bad now. It will probably be a struggle to finish it if I do. Everything has simply fallen apart. I was hoping stuff would get better after Hibito fell out of the spotlight but the show is doing a really poor job of keeping the here and now interesting, and the future holds little hope without objectives or trials appropriately tasked or lined up.

I've also just really come to a point of loathing with the quirky characters. They aren't that funny, so they mostly just wind up being annoying. It is another thing entirely when the show just shuffles between the "wacky" director, the oblivious parents, and the asshole astronaut with the pink glasses. Between the bog trudge pacing and the emphasis on characters that aren't Nanba this episode was particularly grating in a series that is increasingly failing to provide meaningful payoff or drama.
I really think it's the half hour format that makes the show feel more aimless than it actually is. If they could do hour long episodes, they could reach their obvious conclusion in half the time.

As it is, we're going to get another training arc.

A creepy old dude buys a shitload of CD's just so he can cast votes for his favourite idol in an in a glorified popularity contest (each cd comes with a "vote"). Somehow he thinks it's a good idea to occupy the bathroom while painstakingly going through each and every single "vote" as if it somehow hides his shame. He unsurprisingly refuses to leave the bathroom even when his daughter needs to use it leading her to call him out as the disgusting piece of shit he is.

tl;dr: IDOL CULTURE
I bet you'd buy a thousand CDs if Minorin was real!

That's hard to say. Which FMA are we talking about? Attack on Titan is a more focused story, with both the good and bad that that brings.
Brotherhood/the real one.
I found that since it didn't fuck around with the early episodes, it got to the conspiracy focus fairly quickly anyway.

Not really comparable, but I find it to be better.
Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm... lol
 

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But subtle fixes aren't unusual. I see comparisons like this for almost every major series these days. Girls und Panzer also have like a gazillion corrections which range from shadows, clipping, minor background faces, texture detailing, positioning, etc. Stuff which is almost unnoticeable.
Yes, but Hyouka is already stunning and near perfect looking. The fact that they went over it again just to fix the tiniest of imperfections while resisting engaging in full on revisionism shows how much they respect their fans.
 

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This is why I'm baffled at the sales. Maybe fertygo's right and most potential buyers had seen it in theaters so they didn't buy a disc or something...
That would be pretty counterintuitive compared to the typical sales model.

Lol, I hope it's legit because I also reference that site regarding the resolution most anime is produced in. I wish I understood what the pictures meant though.
I thought it was common knowledge that most "HD" anime is produced at 720p.

LOL at Rebuild being 720p. It's shameful that anime studios can't even output to full HD for theatrical movies.
 

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I thought it was common knowledge that most "HD" anime is produced at 720p.
I'm pretty sure that there were a lot more anime produced at sub-720p and aired in HD a couple of years ago, especially compared to now. If I remember correctly, Tamayura was one you could tell just watching it.
 

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That's honestly not as bad as I was expecting Dennou Coil to be. Probably still lost money, but I imagined three digit numbers all this time.
"Probably"? It would seem more like "definitely". It clearly had a larger budget than, say, Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure.

Oh, I see that's already been pointed out.
 

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Fate/zero is 1520×855? what.. is the rationale behind this, is that even a multiple of a standard

Seems like ufotable's Gyo is 1520×855 too judging by the press shots I found on somebody's blog: http://koyanagiyuki.blogspot.com/2012/02/ito-junji-gyo-pv.html
Why does KyoAni do stuff in 955p? Why does BONES do stuff in 560p? Mysteries.
Probably the same reason for the bizarre resolutions video game developers use for their "HD" games, LOL. I'm not sure why it's so hard for anime producers to render at HD resolutions, though. It shouldn't take nearly as much time to render in 2D as it does CGI.
 
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