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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!

So, the villain in this is actually good?

i think he was good. kurt russel acted well (in particular the "i just spread my seeds around all over the world" and "planted tumor in your moms brain" reveal.. man he was so likeable before that reveal and i was asking myself what could possibly go wrong) and the villain actually was really powerful this time. also he is immortal so he may return.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
i think he was good. kurt russel acted well (in particular the "i just spread my seeds around all over the world" and "planted tumor in your moms brain" reveal.. man he was so likeable before that reveal and i was asking myself what could possibly go wrong) and the villain actually was really powerful this time. also he is immortal so he may return.

I agree on this. Not Joker level but he was good.
 
That's an interesting perspective, but from my point of view Ego and Thanos share more in common than you'd initially think:
Both are extremely powerful cosmic beings with desires to bend the universe to their will.
Both view other life as lesser than themselves.
Both groom their children to take up that will at the expense of their own agency.
Both ultimately view their children as expendable assets to be used as a means to an end.

But then with Ego he chooses to propogate with as many species in the universe (lol just like Peter) with the hopes that one of his spawn will become a Celestial like himself. Those that aren't are tossed aside as failures and basically drained of their life to replenish Ego's energy. The one being he falls in love with he gives a brain tumour in order to remove all possibility of giving up his plans in favour of love. When Peter rejects Ego's will he drops all pretense and the fatherly facade falls away to reveal him to be far more self serving and dare I say it egotistical. I'm just saying, Ego is all kinds of fucked up.

The whole point of the film is that family is not simply the blood coursing through your veins, but rather the ones that raise you, stick by you and make you a stronger individual.
yeah that made yondu such an awesome character this time around. sad that unlike ego he has zero chance to come back. great send off though
He's immortal as long as the light shines. Groot knocked out that light with Rocket's bomb.

my point is that it is easy to find a bullshit excuse to justify him reappearing. he already was explained to be immortal and the concept of the light wasnt explained to a point where we can say that those bombs have actually killed him.
 
i gotta give a shout out to dave bautista.

man that guy as a wrestler was so bad at acting. he was a good goon of triple h but as his own character he always felt lacking.

same with the other movies i saw him in. in spectre he basically was a hulking machine but not much more and even in the original gotg he had funny lines but the delivery wasnt always on point.

in this movie he kills it to an extent that he is one of the absolute highlights. it is finally believable that he is just someone that is so out of concept that he would do or say the stupidest things and still mean it sincerely.
the one scene with mantis where he says to her that he considers her to be butt ugly but if someone is ugly and you love em that means the love is real... that was really well delivered. also the one scene where he talks about his daughter... the delivery was strong there as well.
 

sandkiller

Member
Who was michael rosenbuan playing? Was he playing the "iceface" cgi character?

Also did anyone else noticed, when rocket and yondu were doing the hyperspace jumps, they travel through a planet with 2 creatures fighting - one of which is dressed like thanos??
 
the one scene with mantis where he says to her that he considers her to be butt ugly but if someone is ugly and you love em that means the love is real... that was really well delivered. also the one scene where he talks about his daughter... the delivery was strong there as well.
Best part was how Draxs was showing subtle hints of both happiness and sadness yet mantis was breaking down at the sadness she felt from him.

Some fantastic acting from dave, he has been living with his pain so is used to it.

Saw the film yesterday and overall thought it was great. Pacing was slower at first so I wasn't sure but it slowly built up and the emotional highs at the end were fantastic. Yondus death was really powerful and well done.

Drax was the stand out for me, he had the audience laughing the most throughout. Him telling mantis she could pet rocket or him bursting out laughing at rocket stealing the batteries was particular high points.
 

Replicant

Member
2nd viewing is definitely better because you already know the plot beats so you can pay more attention to character interaction and development, both were quite plenty in this area.

Rocket and Yondu definitely get the biggest share of development. People were complaining about them killing off the Evil Ravagers but what do you want them to do? These are the same people who killed off their comrades for power grab and will kill Rocket and Yondu had Nebula didn't suggest they sell both to the Kree.

GOTG were never sold as absolute hero like Captain America but more like anti-heroes with loyalty and limited moral code. And I'm glad they are not rewritten to be more like Cap.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Who are the
people in the post credits tease with Stallone
supposed to be?
Supposingly the original version of the Guardians of the Galaxy team
Stallone plays the role of Starhawk

Btw this is the spoiler thread so i dont think you need to hide any spoiler here
 
Really enjoyed it. Maybe a little too jokey at times at the wrong moments (especially Drax) but overall a lot of fun and more emotional than I expected. Peter and Gamora the best romance in the MCU. Nebula and Yondu were pleasant surprises as well, I liked where they took those characters.

I've seen some people say they were trying too hard to be cute with Baby Groot but I disagree, BB-8 in TFA is a better example of being too cute. Groot was handled just right, it was actually pretty sad when he was walking down that corridor alone after the Ravengers bullied him.
 

Sadist

Member
Got back from the theater too.

I still prefer the original, but I did have a great time watching it. Personally I found the amount of Groot in the movie just right. I get why some of you would consider it as a very obvious marketing tool, but I really didn't care for that. Baby Groot dancing scene? Hells yeah. It's an easy way to dance your way (ha) into the audience's heart, but I'll allow it. I do agree with the slow pacing in the middle part of the movie. While I did enjoy most of the scenes, you always compare a sequel to the original and you realize it had a far better middle part. It's mostly because of this: There are a lot of emotional scenes, but not every one of those did what it had to do. There are a few times where a joke kind of makes the scene feel pointless or maybe just muddled. With multiple relationships passing through, you realize there is a story for Quil and Ego, Rocket and Yondu, Gamora and Nebula, Drax and Mantis (they had pretty good chemistry though) and next to these stories you had a subplot with the Sovereign. (And setting up Adam Warlock) I feel Gun bit more off than he could chew. Maybe he was a bit too ambitious?

Plus, not every joke was a winner. Maybe next time take it a few notches back James.

On the bright side, the following things really made me happy:

- Ego as a villain was cool. Sure, there are the usual Marvel tropes, but he was very enjoyable. He has swag, wasn't cheesy and well... when that reveal comes along, I was like, DUDE. He told Starlord like it was the most logicial thing to do, allthough he did love her and he thought about abandoning his goal. Way to go not being cool, Dad. Loved the Ego planet shot.

- Zoe Saldana was better this time around. I know lots of folks always say "why is she so boring, we need emotion here" but that's the role she plays. I did like the unspoken thing she has with Peter and resolving her problem with Nebula.

- Maybe the coolest part about the movie is Yondu. We all knew from the original that in the end, he was a big softie and he cared very much for Peter. But his scenes are pretty damn amazing. Especially after breaking out with Rocket and Groot was some fine arrow fuckery. I read somewhere else that he was gleefully killing of the Ravagers, but there was nothing gleeful about it imo. Taserface essentially killed of the crew faithful to him (minus Kraglin) and he just returned the favour.

- The jumping through points was hilarious, especially, the faces.

- Oh oh oh, Stan Lee... and the Watchers!? But I though the Watchers were like in the FF-part of movie licenses? But yo we made it: Watchers in the MCU.

- Drax must have been the most funniest guy in the movie; sure, he overacts but that's the point. But his scenes with Mantis are amazing. Those two really hit it off and the dickish comments from him about are great. "You're beautiful. .. .. On the inside"

- Rocket was great too. Some emotional bonding with Yondu, what an unlikely pair at first.

- The action scenes were amazing as usual and it has some nice spectacle.

- Soundtrack once again was a good pick.

- The David Hasselhoff cameo was hilarious. Had my theater roaring with laughter.

I forgot some stuff, but overall enjoyed it a lot.

Edit: the Zune thing was hilarious. Gun pouring some salt on that. This is a Zune, everybody on Earth has one. Aaayyy lmao
 

Replicant

Member
I can't wait until Peter meets the Avengers and brag about his Zune and everyone even Steve goes "Man, that's one obsolete product you have".
 

Slayven

Member
Budweiser cameo.



I think Taserface would have worked better if he was actually like, introduced as Taserface at some point much earlier before the coup, and it allowed the audience to naturally laugh at him a few times while everyone in the film just played it straight. Instead the entire joke from the start is "OMG YOUR NAME IS TASERFACE ROFLMAO, GUY EVERYONE THIS GUY'S NAME IS TASERFACE!"

It's not that the joke isn't funny, but when you start a joke by explaining it and then spamming it again and again, it's definitely kinda... stupid.

Taserface in the comics come from a race of aliens that worship Tony Stark, hard to work that in
 

Bishop89

Member
Just came back from seeing it.

Absolutely loved it.

Pratt is so charismatic.


Yondu was great, ego is the best villain in the mcu, Kurt did a fantastic job.

Soundtrack was hit or miss for me.

That fleetmac songs great and a couple others but there were some really odd choices.
 

Ithil

Member
So, the villain in this is actually good?

In the end, yes.

I was both surprised and sort of not surprised given how gung ho Gunn is about just doing comic concepts wholesale, but overall delighted that
They actually had Ego have a giant face on the planet.

Not to mention the
Watchers showing up straight off the comic page.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Drax is quite a complex character. On the surface he look pretty straightforward and taking things literally at time. But Mantis touching him and breaking down shows that he's putting up a strong front in front of his friends, hiding his sadness beneath, and that he's suffering a lot emotionally inside.

When he made those dickish comments to Mantis, I cant tell if he's being genuine or he is putting up the "tough guy" front in front of her (in that he wants to compliment her but doesnt want to do that so obviously)
 

Renpatsu

Member
I've seen some people say they were trying too hard to be cute with Baby Groot but I disagree, BB-8 in TFA is a better example of being too cute. Groot was handled just right, it was actually pretty sad when he was walking down that corridor alone after the Ravengers bullied him.
I still think many of his scenes were overindulgent, but that scene in particular is great for how it captures Groot's innocent vulnerability in that moment. That's when you know the Ravagers had what's coming to them.
 
They actually had Ego have a giant face on the planet
I have to say I was really disappointed with this, not that they did it just that they kind of half hearted it. Instead of having it be a moving face with ridges and peaks it was just kind of 3 light filled holes that resembled eyes and a mouth.

Would have much preferred them to go all out instead.
 
I have to say I was really disappointed with this, not that they did it just that they kind of half hearted it. Instead of having it be a moving face with ridges and peaks it was just kind of 3 light filled holes that resembled eyes and a mouth.

Would have much preferred them to go all out instead.

Damn. Putting expectations back in check now.
 

Pachimari

Member
Yeah, I was disappointed in the planet too. I had imagined Ego's human form actually forming into a planet and talking while being a planet and stuff like that.
 
I actually really liked the shot of Ego's face. Didn't expect to get it and then bam there's a giant face on the planet. That, the Watchers, Warlock's cocoon and the original Guardians were really cool nods to the comics.
 

Maximo

Member
i gotta give a shout out to dave bautista.

man that guy as a wrestler was so bad at acting. he was a good goon of triple h but as his own character he always felt lacking.

same with the other movies i saw him in. in spectre he basically was a hulking machine but not much more and even in the original gotg he had funny lines but the delivery wasnt always on point.

in this movie he kills it to an extent that he is one of the absolute highlights. it is finally believable that he is just someone that is so out of concept that he would do or say the stupidest things and still mean it sincerely.
the one scene with mantis where he says to her that he considers her to be butt ugly but if someone is ugly and you love em that means the love is real... that was really well delivered. also the one scene where he talks about his daughter... the delivery was strong there as well.

Him almost puking was amazing.
 

Ithil

Member
I have to say I was really disappointed with this, not that they did it just that they kind of half hearted it. Instead of having it be a moving face with ridges and peaks it was just kind of 3 light filled holes that resembled eyes and a mouth.

Would have much preferred them to go all out instead.

They did go all out,
a whole wall in the caverns turned into his face, with dialogue and everything. I don't know if you expected him to speak or something with the planet face but his face would have to be moving at like 10000 m/s to make expressions.

I was surprised that they put a gigantic face on the side of a planet at all, they could easily have had only Kurt Russell as Ego's vessel for the whole film, and many prior comic book films would have done that. We've come a long way since Galactus as a big cloud.
 
Enjoyed it a lot. Not as much as the first, but still really fun. A lot of the emotional moments didn't land for me, and taserface was a dud. Beautiful film, though.

The real question - do I keep the two soundtrack playlists separate, or do I mix them. Didn't think they could top part 1's, but I think they did. Never heard that Cat Stevens song, but it's a real gem.
 

Bishop89

Member
Apparently young Kurt is mostly practical effects, impressive if true


Also I guess peter and the gang can no longer hold an infinity stone.


Shame that
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
Apparently young Kurt is mostly practical effects, impressive if true


Also I guess peter and the gang can no longer hold an infinity stone.


Shame that

This will be an interesting development. Ego told Peter he's immortal so long as the light was still there (and I'm surprised we didn't get a montage of Peter doing stupid stuff almost killing himself) but he destroyed that, so obviously he's no longer immortal. But he is still part celestial? So perhaps he's still stronger than your average comic book character.
 
So, question about one of the post-credit scenes:

Stallone and the original Guardians show up. Are they teasing them for the next movie? Or was it just a fun little thing for fans?
 

Renpatsu

Member
So, question about one of the post-credit scenes:

Stallone and the original Guardians show up. Are they teasing them for the next movie? Or was it just a fun little thing for fans?
Gunn has said in interviews that he expects Stallone at least, but I imagine by extension the other cameos, to play a larger role in Cosmic Marvel down the line. Who knows whether that's Vol 3 or other films set in that area of the MCU.

Corresponding article.
 
Just got back from my viewing. Might not be as good as GOTG 1, but damn if this didn't have the best visuals of all the MCU movies. The art direction is downright stunning at times, like with the ravanger funeral and the entirety of Ego. And some really good visuals and effects, like the bird's eye shot of Yondu using the arrow.
 

Sadist

Member
i totally saw the part where
kurt revealed he killed peter's mom
coming
I think everyone did. When he started about his goals it got iffy, but the deal was sealed when he told Peter that if he went back a fourth time he would lose sight of his goal.
 
I think everyone did. When he started about his goals it got iffy, but the deal was sealed when he told Peter that if he went back a fourth time he would lose sight of his goal.

I actually didn't see it coming. In fact just before that I was thinking how are they going to make this guy the villain as Russell has been super likable and chill and even his goals seems understandable. Then he casually drops that line and I was 'ahhh, that's how'
 

Renpatsu

Member
I think everyone did. When he started about his goals it got iffy, but the deal was sealed when he told Peter that if he went back a fourth time he would lose sight of his goal.
Peter's immediate visceral reaction to that revelation was so satisfying. Just another sign of Ego's complete lack of empathy for anyone but himself.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Loved it. Better than the first one for me - I found the first one difficult to follow in terms of the main plot.

This one has gods, great chemistry,and genuine emotion - cried a little bit at the end when the blue guy was carrying Chris Pratt and called him his son. But then I am very weak to father/son tearjerky stuff in movies. Plus Cat Stevens Father and Son :_;


Have no idea if the post credits scene with Adam is a thing or not - usually those things are aimed at people more familiar with the source material

Are celestial a thing in Marvel - more than just Ego, and are we expecting to see more of them in future movies? Wondering if Star lord might still have some latent powers too
 

Sadist

Member
Well okay not everyone :p But it was shady how Ego kept dodging Peter's questions about his mom. During the movie, before the reveal and Ego telling Peter how he loved his mother and explaining his powers I entertained the thought of him giving Meredith cancer. "Maybe he unintentionally gave it to her because cosmic powers can make you sick"

I wasn't far from the truth, except the part where he willingly gave her cancer.

Peter's reaction is amazing. Prat is such a likable guy.
 
Small detail but when Stan was talking to the Watchers I think he says something about being a mail man, that could be a reference to his Fantastic Four cameo.
 
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