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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Razorback
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Just saw it. It was a lot of fun.
These marvel movies are just amazing while you're watching them. But as soon as they're over, that's it. I rarely ever think about them again or have any desire to re-watch them.
It's a mystery, these movies are really well made.I wonder what is missing that would make them stick in my mind.
These marvel movies are just amazing while you're watching them. But as soon as they're over, that's it. I rarely ever think about them again or have any desire to re-watch them.
It's a mystery, these movies are really well made.I wonder what is missing that would make them stick in my mind.
Yeah, I was thinking of that, and I do think her rage was portrayed well, but that sequence felt like a clumsy way to get to the emotional conclusion they were aiming for.
A ship's on fire and Gamora decides to just pummel it with massive manchine gun bullets, and to be concerned with her sister's safety a few minutes later. It felt weird.
StrongArmSteady
Member
That was Thor's GrandMaster and like the other poster mentioned I believe its a nod to the cosmic marvel universe.
Cant wait to see them again.
Its just a shame that Adam Warlock seems to be really hatch after Thanos story is over. Its a no-no.
Should've been Kale Breckin. Gunn doesn't read Gaf. Missed opportunity.
is your name Taser Face? You can tell us, we're all friends here *wink wink*
Just came back from watching it. I absolutely loved it. The humor, the action. Super spot on.
Though to watch this film more critically is super interesting. Marvel is really honing their skills. They've figured out exactly what makes Marvel films so much fun. And they are putting these parts into overdrive lately. Mainly the humor and the crazy action. These are what are important to Marvel films. With characters coming in at a third place. And the story coming in somewhere at the bottom of the list. That really did manifest itself pretty clearly in this film. Characters are just spewing exposition everywhere. Ego explaining his entire backstory in one go. Nebula all suddenly screams the entire backstory of why she hates her sister while noone was asking. Yondu randomly explaining his entire backstory. I could go on. They did not do exposition subtly.
Iron Fist does this as well. Poor exposition. And it's fucking terrible. Makes all the information that is gathered meaningless and not interesting. Since it's just not properly 'earned'. And for some reason, though definitely not graceful, it kinda works in Guardians. Maybe it's because the movie is pretty clear from the get go that the story is not its main feature. It's the gags and the action. The story just serves to get the characters to one set piece to another. BUT for some reason all the crappy exposition is still enough to deliver emotion conclusions at the end of the film. With the funeral and all. It's ridiculous that it works. But it does.
It's really interesting to analyze in my opinion. Marvel films are the definition of popcorn films and they've just cracked the code. The blueprint is showing but for some reason it doesn't matter. It's just so good.
Edit: But these kind of flaws are also one of the reasons why Marvel films, yet incredibly entertaining, feel pretty generic. They are a thrill ride but will not become legendary films. Not if they continue to tell their stories this way. But they are obviously not aiming for the Oscars. And that's totally fine.
Though to watch this film more critically is super interesting. Marvel is really honing their skills. They've figured out exactly what makes Marvel films so much fun. And they are putting these parts into overdrive lately. Mainly the humor and the crazy action. These are what are important to Marvel films. With characters coming in at a third place. And the story coming in somewhere at the bottom of the list. That really did manifest itself pretty clearly in this film. Characters are just spewing exposition everywhere. Ego explaining his entire backstory in one go. Nebula all suddenly screams the entire backstory of why she hates her sister while noone was asking. Yondu randomly explaining his entire backstory. I could go on. They did not do exposition subtly.
Iron Fist does this as well. Poor exposition. And it's fucking terrible. Makes all the information that is gathered meaningless and not interesting. Since it's just not properly 'earned'. And for some reason, though definitely not graceful, it kinda works in Guardians. Maybe it's because the movie is pretty clear from the get go that the story is not its main feature. It's the gags and the action. The story just serves to get the characters to one set piece to another. BUT for some reason all the crappy exposition is still enough to deliver emotion conclusions at the end of the film. With the funeral and all. It's ridiculous that it works. But it does.
It's really interesting to analyze in my opinion. Marvel films are the definition of popcorn films and they've just cracked the code. The blueprint is showing but for some reason it doesn't matter. It's just so good.
Edit: But these kind of flaws are also one of the reasons why Marvel films, yet incredibly entertaining, feel pretty generic. They are a thrill ride but will not become legendary films. Not if they continue to tell their stories this way. But they are obviously not aiming for the Oscars. And that's totally fine.
That's an interesting perspective, but from my point of view Ego and Thanos share more in common than you'd initially think:
Both are extremely powerful cosmic beings with desires to bend the universe to their will.
Both view other life as lesser than themselves.
Both groom their children to take up that will at the expense of their own agency.
Both ultimately view their children as expendable assets to be used as a means to an end.
But then with Ego he chooses to propogate with as many species in the universe (lol just like Peter) with the hopes that one of his spawn will become a Celestial like himself. Those that aren't are tossed aside as failures and basically drained of their life to replenish Ego's energy. The one being he falls in love with he gives a terminal illness in order to remove all possibility of giving up his plans in favour of love. When Peter rejects Ego's will he drops all pretense and the fatherly facade falls away to reveal him to be far more self serving and dare I say it egotistical. I'm just saying, Ego is all kinds of fucked up.
The whole point of the film is that family is not simply the blood coursing through your veins, but rather the ones that raise you, stick by you and make you a stronger individual.
I just thought it was dumb that everyone in the movie was literally rolling around laughing, and there was not one laugh from the actual audience. It just didn't work.
Your audience sounds lame. One I saw it with laughed almost non stop.
At the Taser face bit? Really? Rest of the movie was great. Just that section. Yikes.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
My Deadpool audience was dead quiet throughout but when they left I heard them talking to each other about how it was so funny.
Audiences can be weird.
I mean it didn't get the biggest laughs, but it got laughs. Especially the Sovereign leader laughing at him.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I enjoyed it but I feel you could skip it and miss nothing. It was quite an uneventful movie where any major actions are undone by the end.
It also kept chasing its own tail when it came to tone, at least it was a lot of fun.
It also kept chasing its own tail when it came to tone, at least it was a lot of fun.
Diprosalic
Banned
i liked it quite a bit.
beginning was garbage. almost walked out during that baby groot dancing opening credits scene.
beginning was garbage. almost walked out during that baby groot dancing opening credits scene.
Nah, I read an interview with James Gunn, where he said it was just for the trailers, just like Spirit in the Sky was just in the trailers for the first film.
You almost walked out during the opening credits? Sure.
Just came back from the cinema, I cried at Yondu's funeral, Cat Stevens and all, I just couldn't hold it.
This was a fun movie with so much emotional scenes, and I get that they wanted a more "personal" film in that sense but they can't back away from the silly route they have.
But I liked all the movie, Nebula was the surprise, Yondu was incredible and I will miss him on the future films. Stallone and the rest just set up the next film. The cameos were interesting, Stan Lee's theory is almost real. I liked baby Groot. The action was great.
9/10 what a movie.
This was a fun movie with so much emotional scenes, and I get that they wanted a more "personal" film in that sense but they can't back away from the silly route they have.
But I liked all the movie, Nebula was the surprise, Yondu was incredible and I will miss him on the future films. Stallone and the rest just set up the next film. The cameos were interesting, Stan Lee's theory is almost real. I liked baby Groot. The action was great.
9/10 what a movie.
Budweiser cameo.
I think Taserface would have worked better if he was actually like, introduced as Taserface at some point much earlier before the coup, and it allowed the audience to naturally laugh at him a few times while everyone in the film just played it straight. Instead the entire joke from the start is "OMG YOUR NAME IS TASERFACE ROFLMAO, GUY EVERYONE THIS GUY'S NAME IS TASERFACE!"
It's not that the joke isn't funny, but when you start a joke by explaining it and then spamming it again and again, it's definitely kinda... stupid.
Saw it last night. I had fun, it was an entertaining movie.
- the beginning was a little awkward, some forced jokes, dialogue didn't flow as smoothly as the first movie
- Rocket got some much needed character development
- keeping Groot a baby throughout the movie was a good move, shifts the focus during action sequences to what the rest of the team can do
- Karen Gillian needs to learn how to act tough without a locked jaw, literally every time she wanted to sound badass, her teeth grinded
- Karen's disappointing performance brought down the Gamora/Nebula sister arc, unfortunately
- we actually got a decent villain this time!
- Bautista, Pratt, Saldana, Russell, Klementieff and Rooker were phenomenal, they fucking delivered
- that moment where Ego tells Quill that he gave his mom cancer, beautiful, well done
- Yondu's funeral had me in tears
- the interactions between Drax and Mantis were great
- I felt there were too many jokes, there were a couple of scenes where they turned a serious, emotional moment into a joke, which completely undercut the gravity of that moment
- some jokes got stretched out way too long, like Taserface or Groot fetching stuff
Overall, pretty solid movie, I like how they combined a Galaxy-level threat with an intimate story, while at the same time resolving the story around Peter's dad and why he could hold an infinity Stone.
- the beginning was a little awkward, some forced jokes, dialogue didn't flow as smoothly as the first movie
- Rocket got some much needed character development
- keeping Groot a baby throughout the movie was a good move, shifts the focus during action sequences to what the rest of the team can do
- Karen Gillian needs to learn how to act tough without a locked jaw, literally every time she wanted to sound badass, her teeth grinded
- Karen's disappointing performance brought down the Gamora/Nebula sister arc, unfortunately
- we actually got a decent villain this time!
- Bautista, Pratt, Saldana, Russell, Klementieff and Rooker were phenomenal, they fucking delivered
- that moment where Ego tells Quill that he gave his mom cancer, beautiful, well done
- Yondu's funeral had me in tears
- the interactions between Drax and Mantis were great
- I felt there were too many jokes, there were a couple of scenes where they turned a serious, emotional moment into a joke, which completely undercut the gravity of that moment
- some jokes got stretched out way too long, like Taserface or Groot fetching stuff
Overall, pretty solid movie, I like how they combined a Galaxy-level threat with an intimate story, while at the same time resolving the story around Peter's dad and why he could hold an infinity Stone.
Ah okay. It's one of my favorites from the mix, would've loved it in the final cut.
SporeCrawler
Member
I watched it and i do not understand the mix d reviews it got. For me its even better than the first one.
Marvel finally got a great villain, although they seemingly killed him (whi knows he says hes immortal). Also the secondary villains also were amazing, although they only intervened remotely so it instantly felt as if they are not that involved. Yondu was impeccable. Drax was amazing in particular with Mantis. Rocket was funny as ever and Starlord also nailed it. For me it was flawless.
He's immortal as long as the light shines. Groot knocked out that light with Rocket's bomb.
Watched it with friends and we all absolutely enjoyed it. Sure there are quite a few jokes that don't work well there, the local variety is pretty low compared to the first one and Drax just became a joke character in this movie. But the character development is much stronger, the villain much better and for me personally I liked the pacing here more.
It's still difficult to decide which one is better but so far I can tell I liked it.
It's still difficult to decide which one is better but so far I can tell I liked it.
Did they laugh at the
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Queen snicker
Who wouldn't laugh at that cameo?
How is Drax a joke character? The scene where Mantis touches him and almost has a breakdown and you realise Drax internalises his grief that much that he can look non plussed externally and broken on the inside is some tear jerking shit.
I mean it's pretty clear at this point that Drax is intentionally overplaying the goofiness to hide how broken he is. The few times he's genuine (you're beautiful... on the inside) work because they're pay off, not the norm
The more i think about it and read these discussions, the more it cements that Gunn actually made a sequel with the intention of exploring these characters, and not just make GotG 1.1.
I reckon several points actively enhances the first movie, particularly relating to Quill and his relationship to his Mother and Father. It was a good thing that review thread made me go in 'only' expecting more of the same. Tempered expectations and all that.
I reckon several points actively enhances the first movie, particularly relating to Quill and his relationship to his Mother and Father. It was a good thing that review thread made me go in 'only' expecting more of the same. Tempered expectations and all that.
Glass Rebel
Member
Loved it, easily better than the first simply because of the emotional bits hitting harder and more characters getting some depth to them, especially Gamora and Nebula. But I thought everything was a step-up, except for locale variety. Instead it got a bit of worldbuilding with the Ravagers.
The humour was definitely the best part, obviously. The Taserface joke was a huge hit in my screening but Marry Poppins got by far the biggest laughs. I was in stitches.
Also, holy fucking shit at Adam Warlock. We made it, brehs. 😭
The humour was definitely the best part, obviously. The Taserface joke was a huge hit in my screening but Marry Poppins got by far the biggest laughs. I was in stitches.
Also, holy fucking shit at Adam Warlock. We made it, brehs. 😭
I'll be pissed if Nebula doesn't kill Thanos now. I mean I know Avengers/RDJ are the focus, but Nebula, Drax and Gamora really have to be the ones to take Thanos down.
I agree
clay_ghost
Member
She will hurt him at least, maybe making it possible for a joint effort for GotG and Avengers to kill Thanos.
I will be not be surprised they downsize the team on both sides by killing at least one from GotG and Avengers. Nebula is most likely to die since she was not in the original team.
Wait what?
End credits tease.
Post-credits scene. Ayesha reveals a cocoon with (iirc) the next step of evolution that they will use to destroy the Guardians of the Galaxy. She names this creation Adam.
Isn't she dead according to Drax? I thought he mentioned in the first movie that Ronan killed his wife and daughter, no?
They can just change if for the MCU. Just let him have another daughter which would be Moondragon.
I can't remember exactly but after going through this article http://www.rollingstone.com/music/f...rdians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-soundtrack-w477515 perhaps it was 'Come A Little Bit Closer' by Jay and the Americans?
If only there was a Gem which could resurrect the dead...
Well this film is set in 2014, so no
hans_castorp
Member
Which name did they use for the Taserface gag in English?
Watched it dubbed and found that part hilarious. They used a regional meme that took the whole audience by surprise.
Watched it dubbed and found that part hilarious. They used a regional meme that took the whole audience by surprise.
Taserface. That part where he calls the Sovereign and even she (well assistant) laughs at him got me.