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Girlfriend has tried everything to lose weight but to no avail

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Turok_TTZ

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nothing wrong with the peanut butter, it's good for you if it's natural. My breakfast usually consists of a peanut butter sandwich on whole wheat break with a glass of milk.

for exercise, maybe running/swimming would be better than p90x. i have never tried the program, but I can only imagine that it would get boring after a month. If she sucks at running, start her at 20-30 minutes easy everyday (not on a treadmill). After she builds her endurance she can go 40-50 minutes. throwing in weight training/core work would be good too.

Hate to break it to ya, but legumes are bad for ya even if its natural. Though u can strip most of the bad stuff from beans when cooked right, not sure about peanuts but major brand peanut butter and even natural ones are a huge no no.

For the OP: http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html
general guidlines for what I said. I insist ye take a look over this list.

However, everyone's bodies are different. you could cut in some peanut butter and beans. just try to do what works for ya.

edit: cant believe i forgot. START HAVING UR GF EAT AVOCADOS. dont ask why, ensure u do this!!
 

grumble

Member
This thread is freaking me out. The amount of old wives' tales and urban legends is pretty wild.

To lose weight: cut calories. It doesn't matter that much what you eat so long as you keep calories down. A diet high in protein and whole foods will keep you feeling full longer and is more nutritious but isn't necessary. Still should eat it though or you'll feel terrible and have poor gym performance.

To lose fat: do the above while exercising, preferably with resistance.

You can lose fat and gain muscle to some degree, but a caloric deficit eventually trumps it all.

Daily weight fluctuations willl show a downward trend over time.

So get your girlfriend to keep calories quite low, say in the 1200-1300 range. Eat protein. Exercise. Give it a couple of months minimum. Shell get there, guaranteed as long as she's consistent and doesnt cheat.
 

BlueSteel

Member
So, Ithought of something else. Wonder why I didn't think about it.

Instead of finding an ideal weight, she should be looking for an ideal body fat percentage.

Some links to help you estimate current body fat%
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/library/blbodyfatcalculator.htm
http://www.leighpeele.com/body-fat-pictures-and-percentages

It doesn't really matter that you're using an inaccurate measurement. What's important is that you're maintain consistent with your measuring method. For example, going from measuring tape to BODPOD measurements is not useful at all.


This thread is freaking me out. The amount of old wives' tales and urban legends is pretty wild.

To lose weight: cut calories. It doesn't matter that much what you eat so long as you keep calories down. A diet high in protein and whole foods will keep you feeling full longer and is more nutritious but isn't necessary. Still should eat it though or you'll feel terrible and have poor gym performance.

To lose fat: do the above while exercising, preferably with resistance.

You can lose fat and gain muscle to some degree, but a caloric deficit eventually trumps it all.

Daily weight fluctuations willl show a downward trend over time.

So get your girlfriend to keep calories quite low, say in the 1200-1300 range. Eat protein. Exercise. Give it a couple of months minimum. Shell get there, guaranteed as long as she's consistent and doesnt cheat.

The amount of urban legends shows that weight-loss education is still needed for sure.
 

Chaplain

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Super simple to lose weight. Cut calories and do at least 1 hour of cardio 5 days a week. I went from 235 pounds to 160 pounds by doing between 80 minutes to 120 minutes of cardio 6 days a week within 1 year and have kept it off ever since (started in 2004).
 
Hate to break it to ya, but legumes are bad for ya even if its natural. Though u can strip most of the bad stuff from beans when cooked right, not sure about peanuts but major brand peanut butter and even natural ones are a huge no no.

For the OP: http://altmed.creighton.edu/Paleodiet/Foodlist.html
general guidlines for what I said. I insist ye take a look over this list.

Sorry I am having difficulties to take it serious that all grains and legumes are bad for you. I think that is an exaggerated claim made by people in favour of a paleodiet. It is like throwing away research that shows benefits for eating grains and legumes. That list says its okay to have in moderation diet sodas, beer, spirits but avoid at all cost grains and legumes. Of course such a discussion should continue in a different thread.
 
I'm just going to toss my opinion on the pile:

1) Vegetables are fine, you can basically eat as many as you want and they will not hurt you as long as you're still getting enough fat/protein from other parts of your diet.
2) Fruits are good, but not in excess. 2-3 servings a day is plenty. Fructose is relatively destructive to the body and the only reason fruits are acceptable to eat is because of the fiber, which helps mitigate the negative effects of fructose. Additionally, there are some phytochemicals found (in veggies as well) that may or may not be beneficial to human health; the verdict is still somewhat "out there" on those.
3) Fats are fine too, and actually needed. Poly/mono-unsaturated fats are the best, artificial trans fats are the worst, and saturated fats are somewhere in between; if it's a natural saturated fats, odds are it's ok, if it's some highly processed shit, probably not so ok.
4) If she can stick to a caloric deficit for ~3-4 months, something like 500 calories below the calculated maintenance level you discussed earlier, she'll lose ~1 lb a week. At the end of the 3-4 months, she can go back to eating maintenance and most likely that weight will stay off, although her maintenance level will be lower than it was at her original weight.
5) I don't know much about P90X/Insanity, but as long as she's doing a decent amount of weight training in combination with cardio (and stretching) she should see fat loss and muscle gains. Remember, as she builds muscle she'll gain weight, even if she's losing fat, so it may not show on the scale. The best measurement are your own eyes/photographs over time.

Also, to Turok_TTZ, I'd like to see some sources for the "legumes are bad" thing. It's news to me and I'm always interested in learning new things.
 

Krowley

Member
I buy a lot of the claims of the paleo diet. I've used my own variation of it to lose quite a bit of weight. I don't follow it religiously at all, but I've kept my nutritional proportions in a similar range for long periods of time and I'm getting good results. During certain times I've been more strict to the point where my diet could almost be comparable to the Atkins diet, and I've mixed in intermittent fasting and all sorts of tricks to help get past plataeus, but generally the paleo diet has been my main inspiration.

But anyway, I don't think the claims about legumes are valid at all, at least not for peanuts. Peanuts and peanut butter are very high in fiber, protein, and fats while being low in carbs. They should be an excellent snack food for somebody trying to lose weight. I eat them all the time and they haven't caused me any problems. If you have an allergy to peanuts or if you have trouble digesting certain legumes, that's obviously a different situation, but otherwise, I don't think there is any problem with eating them in moderation. Some legumes have such high carb totals that even with the fiber they could potentially cause a bad insulin spike if you eat too many, but that's a question of proportions, and peanuts are very low carb.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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She has to gain muscle first, so the muscle can eat the fat and increase the metabolism to burn more calories. Then after the musculation phase, she has to do cardio and weights at the same time to cut, rip, or trim herself.

You can't get anywhere fast with cardio alone.

And get rid of these dressings; high in fat, cause cholesterol.

Make your own!

Avocados are really fattening, you should have it only once a week, and as a full meal, not a fucking snack.

1 egg, not two, fuck the butter fat, screw the peanut butter, lol cottage cheese and you're asking why she ain't losing weight?

She should stop having so many almond snacks, keep it to fruits, or vegetables, why not mini carrots?

Sugar takes away from your lean physique, body builders stay away from that shit.

You're extremely misinformed about fat and cholesterol and their effects on the human body. I'll leave it at that.

I buy a lot of the claims of the paleo diet. I've used my own variation of it to lose quite a bit of weight. I don't follow it religiously at all, but I've kept my nutritional proportions in a similar range for long periods of time and I'm getting good results. During certain times I've been more strict to the point where my diet could almost be comparable to the Atkins diet, and I've mixed in intermittent fasting and all sorts of tricks to help get past plataeus, but generally the paleo diet has been my main inspiration.

But anyway, I don't think the claims about legumes are valid at all, at least not for peanuts. Peanuts and peanut butter are very high in fiber, protein, and fats while being low in carbs. They should be an excellent snack food for somebody trying to lose weight. I eat them all the time and they haven't caused me any problems. If you have an allergy to peanuts or if you have trouble digesting certain legumes, that's obviously a different situation, but otherwise, I don't think there is any problem with eating them in moderation. Some legumes have such high carb totals that even with the fiber they could potentially cause a bad insulin spike if you eat too many, but that's a question of proportions, and peanuts are very low carb.

There are things in peanuts that make me suspicious of consuming them any substantial amount.

One example: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/aflatoxins-or-another-reason-to-shun-peanuts/#axzz1uCo114co

I prefer almonds/almond butter anyway.
 

hiryu

Member
Go buy

The Paleo Solution-Robb Wolf
Why We Get Fat-Gary Taubes
The Primal Blueprint - Mark Sisson

Follow them to the letter, do not cheat and weight will come off.
 

malyce

Member
This thread is freaking me out. The amount of old wives' tales and urban legends is pretty wild.

To lose weight: cut calories. It doesn't matter that much what you eat so long as you keep calories down. A diet high in protein and whole foods will keep you feeling full longer and is more nutritious but isn't necessary. Still should eat it though or you'll feel terrible and have poor gym performance.

To lose fat: do the above while exercising, preferably with resistance.

You can lose fat and gain muscle to some degree, but a caloric deficit eventually trumps it all.

Daily weight fluctuations willl show a downward trend over time.

So get your girlfriend to keep calories quite low, say in the 1200-1300 range. Eat protein. Exercise. Give it a couple of months minimum. Shell get there, guaranteed as long as she's consistent and doesnt cheat.

This is all that needs to be said really, all this eat blah blah blah, cook with blah blah blah... etc... is a just a mess, as everyone's body is different and operates differently. I'm 5'11" and January 1st I was sitting at 251lbs, as of the first of May, I was 199lbs, still 5'11" didn't lose any height, without ever setting foot in a gym or doing any kind of exercise. What did i eat? Whatever the fuck i wanted to, as long as my caloric intake was within 1300-1700 per day, with one cheat day. And when i smoked and got the munchies, I'd easily burn through 3000-3500 calories. Again, every person is different, but it's simple math, calories in < BMR and you'll lose. And another thing too is that most of you assume that people want to lose weight to be "healthy." Eat the right foods, blah blah blah, at the end od the day 95% of the people that wanna lose weight just don't wanna be fat, they could care less about being healthy and eating the right foods, cardio and all of that other stuff. Their main goal? NOT BE FAT ANYMORE!
 
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Deleted member 17706

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This is all that needs to be said really, all this eat blah blah blah, cook with blah blah blah... etc... is a just a mess, as everyone's body is different and operates differently. I'm 5'11" and January 1st I was sitting at 251lbs, as of the first of May, I was 199lbs, still 5'11" didn't lose any height, without ever setting foot in a gym or doing any kind of exercise. What did i eat? Whatever the fuck i wanted to, as long as my caloric intake was within 1300-1700 per day, with one cheat day. And when i smoked and got the munchies, I'd easily burn through 3000-3500 calories. Again, every person is different, but it's simple math, calories in < BMR and you'll lose. And another thing too is that most of you assume that people want to lose weight to be "healthy." Eat the right foods, blah blah blah, at the end od the day 95% of the people that wanna lose weight just don't wanna be fat, they could care less about being healthy and eating the right foods, cardio and all of that other stuff. Their main goal? NOT BE FAT ANYMORE!

It's stupid because it's simplifying an extremely complicated process where different people respond differently. Demanding that people use sheer force of will to suppress their hunger and brain signals is just not realistic. It may be for titans like yourself, but simply "eating less" isn't going to be a fool-proof plan for most people.
 

Jokergrin

Member
This is all that needs to be said really, all this eat blah blah blah, cook with blah blah blah... etc... is a just a mess, as everyone's body is different and operates differently. I'm 5'11" and January 1st I was sitting at 251lbs, as of the first of May, I was 199lbs, still 5'11" didn't lose any height, without ever setting foot in a gym or doing any kind of exercise. What did i eat? Whatever the fuck i wanted to, as long as my caloric intake was within 1300-1700 per day, with one cheat day. And when i smoked and got the munchies, I'd easily burn through 3000-3500 calories. Again, every person is different, but it's simple math, calories in < BMR and you'll lose. And another thing too is that most of you assume that people want to lose weight to be "healthy." Eat the right foods, blah blah blah, at the end od the day 95% of the people that wanna lose weight just don't wanna be fat, they could care less about being healthy and eating the right foods, cardio and all of that other stuff. Their main goal? NOT BE FAT ANYMORE!

"just starve yourself" is not going to work for most people, even if it worked for you. It is the wrong way to go versus a long term lifestyle change that involves eating the right food consistently. This is the better way to go:

Go buy

The Paleo Solution-Robb Wolf
Why We Get Fat-Gary Taubes
The Primal Blueprint - Mark Sisson

Follow them to the letter, do not cheat and weight will come off.
 

Krowley

Member
One other thing...

Personally, I decided to save working out until I had lost quite a bit of weight. I was really heavy and I would have probably injured myself if I had started working out right away. And also, I knew that working out would cause muscle gains, which might make it harder to determine if my diet was working. I didn't want to deal with the psychological hassle of trying to keep my motivation up when the scale wasn't moving much.

You can still lose weight and improve your health without increasing exercise just by changing your diet, and your girlfriend would probably actually lose faster if she stopped exercising, which might help her stay motivated. I lost 40 pounds without adding any exercise at all. I was very big, but that's still a lot of weight, and I could have kept going without adding any exercise. I just felt like the time was right.

When I finally started exercising, my weight loss immediately slowed down quite a bit, and I also started having problems with my body trying to adjust to added exercise while I was in a calorie deficit. My immune system went to hell. I started catching something new every week, staying sick all the time, and I was achy all the time with very little energy. I had to actually reduce the intensity and frequency of my workout to get everything back into balance. Just something to consider. Different people have different results, so I'm not saying this would happen to your girlfriend but staying on my diet was a heck of a lot easier before I started including exercise. The exercise--mostly light weight training with sledgehammers and dumbells--has shown benefits and it's paying off now, but there is a tradeoff to think about.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
This thread is freaking me out. The amount of old wives' tales and urban legends is pretty wild.

To lose weight: cut calories. It doesn't matter that much what you eat so long as you keep calories down. A diet high in protein and whole foods will keep you feeling full longer and is more nutritious but isn't necessary. Still should eat it though or you'll feel terrible and have poor gym performance.

To lose fat: do the above while exercising, preferably with resistance.

You can lose fat and gain muscle to some degree, but a caloric deficit eventually trumps it all.

Daily weight fluctuations willl show a downward trend over time.

So get your girlfriend to keep calories quite low, say in the 1200-1300 range. Eat protein. Exercise. Give it a couple of months minimum. Shell get there, guaranteed as long as she's consistent and doesnt cheat.

Uhhh, Big Macs every day can keep you in the 1500-2000 range, but you'll die.

My advice is what I have been doing (lost 33 lbs so far in a year, 23 since Jan). Cut down on carbs (no need to go crazy low carb, but keep them under 100), eat more fresh fruit (not Apples) and veggies. For me dinner is usually chicken and some kind of roasted veggie, or eggs with turkey bacon/sausage and veggies.

Eat almonds as snacks. Work out. Drink almond milk.
 

Zoe

Member
She loves it and you never do that same thing on any given day. She'll supplement some swimming too when she moves into her new home.

I wouldn't depend on a backyard pool for meaningful workouts. Such a small distance just wouldnt be as fulfuilling as even a small lane pool in a gym. Of course the most ideal would be 25 yards at a minimum.
 
Don't give into these low carb things or any of these weird paleo things. She must simply clean up her diet of processed foods and get regular exercise, meaning like 30 minutes every day. High Intensity Interval training can be made fun and is very effective.
 

foxdvd

Member
Are you sure she is telling you everything she is eating?

My ex wife had problems after our third child...but it turns out that sperm has like 7 calories a load...and she was a cheating whore...so I figured she was consuming at least 700 extra calories a day on the side....
 

hiryu

Member
Go buy

The Paleo Solution-Robb Wolf
Why We Get Fat-Gary Taubes
The Primal Blueprint - Mark Sisson

Follow them to the letter, do not cheat and weight will come off.

BTW, I lost over a 100 pounds doing this over a 9 month period in 2009 and I have relatives who have lost 15-30 pounds just over a few months doing the same thing. I've been at the same weight now since September 2009 but my waist continues to shrink and I keep getting stronger. It works.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Two weeks isn't enough. I went on a lowish (100) carb diet last summer and my weight would plateau for 2 weeks, and I'd suddenly drop like 8 pounds the following week.

Also, if she's drinking a lot of water, she might just be retaining more water weight. If she were to empty out her carb reserves, she'd probably drop 5+ lbs.

Are you sure she is telling you everything she is eating?

My ex wife had problems after our third child...but it turns out that sperm has like 7 calories a load...and she was a cheating whore...so I figured she was consuming at least 700 extra calories a day on the side....

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Don't give into these low carb things or any of these weird paleo things. She must simply clean up her diet of processed foods and get regular exercise, meaning like 30 minutes every day. High Intensity Interval training can be made fun and is very effective.

... do you even know what paleo is?
 

shira

Member
You should have a weigh in at the end of each week. It's a better way of gauging progress.

Checking the weight each day is pointless and demoralising.
Should also calibrate your scale(s).

Just weighed myself twice on a digital scale. 2 kg variance
 

hiryu

Member
Don't give into these low carb things or any of these weird paleo things. She must simply clean up her diet of processed foods and get regular exercise, meaning like 30 minutes every day. High Intensity Interval training can be made fun and is very effective.

Yeah eating and acting like our bodies have evolved to over millions of years is weird.
 

malyce

Member
It's stupid because it's simplifying an extremely complicated process where different people respond differently. Demanding that people use sheer force of will to suppress their hunger and brain signals is just not realistic. It may be for titans like yourself, but simply "eating less" isn't going to be a fool-proof plan for most people.
Most people over eat or eat till they're full, and the body becomes accustomed to this. You don't have to. Eat till you're not hungry anymore, when you're hungry you eat again. There's no need to stuff yourself with food.


"just starve yourself" is not going to work for most people, even if it worked for you. It is the wrong way to go versus a long term lifestyle change that involves eating the right food consistently. This is the better way to go:

so 1700 cals a day is starving yourself?
 
I originally posted this in the insanity and weight loss thread but a lot of times posts get lost in the shuffle because other people want help to.

If she started p90x or any other 90 day programs, word of advice, ONLY hop on the scale on day 1 of starting the program and then day 90 to see the results. The body can go up and down in weight throughout a program. Best bet is to stay away from the scale while doing the program. It could actually discourage people are have them give up too early.

Simply keep at it everyday and judge not by weight loss, but how much better your body feels.
 

Krowley

Member
In-Out=Weight Gain

Its quite easy. If you do not loose weight, it means you do not move enough.

If you start moving more, almost certainly you will want to eat more as well. The body knows what it wants, and hunger is very hard to resist. If you're overweight there is a physiological problem with the way your body is regulating your appetite, probably due to hormonal reactions to the foods you are eating. Some people have these problems, some people don't. Some people have a very slight problem and they can take very small actions like slightly cutting calories--which also changes the nutritional content of their food in most cases--or just adding exercise, which burns off excess glucose in their bloodstream--and get good lasting results, but other people have a more severe problem.

If you cut calories a lot and exercise harder, you will get results, but that takes gargantuan willpower because you are going against everything your body is telling you to do. And eventually, almost everybody loses that battle.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Most people over eat or eat till they're full, and the body becomes accustomed to this. You don't have to. Eat till you're not hungry anymore, when you're hungry you eat again. There's no need to stuff yourself with food.

Yup. It's simply habit more than anything. Eat only what you need, and when you're hungry, not to satisfy your tastebuds. Drink water or eat very low calory foods if you really need to much on something (snow peas are great).
 
I wouldn't depend on a backyard pool for meaningful workouts. Such a small distance just wouldnt be as fulfuilling as even a small lane pool in a gym. Of course the most ideal would be 25 yards at a minimum.

It's an indoor pool and its legit
 

Septimius

Junior Member
This thread is freaking me out. The amount of old wives' tales and urban legends is pretty wild.

To lose weight: cut calories. It doesn't matter that much what you eat so long as you keep calories down. A diet high in protein and whole foods will keep you feeling full longer and is more nutritious but isn't necessary. Still should eat it though or you'll feel terrible and have poor gym performance.

To lose fat: do the above while exercising, preferably with resistance.

You can lose fat and gain muscle to some degree, but a caloric deficit eventually trumps it all.

Daily weight fluctuations willl show a downward trend over time.

So get your girlfriend to keep calories quite low, say in the 1200-1300 range. Eat protein. Exercise. Give it a couple of months minimum. Shell get there, guaranteed as long as she's consistent and doesnt cheat.

Have cheat days. And if her activity level gives 2700 kcal total per day, you can seriously easily try eating more. I am way too tired to start going on about leptin, cortisol and all the ways the bodies prevent weight-loss, but in short try eating more. Some silly people go "but that will ensure I don't lose more weight" and refuse to do so. Those that do suddenly feel better, perform better, and lose more weight, because their bodies are healthier. It's not healthy to starve your body. So don't.

Have cheat days. Try eating more.

In-Out=Weight Gain

Its quite easy. If you do not loose weight, it means you do not move enough.

You'd think. Some people can run for four hours per day, be overweight, eat next to nothing, and still lose no weight. Keep your body healthy should ALWAYS be the number one goal. Don't give advice that "you need to eat less and move more" when you don't understand the implications of telling that to someone that's eating 1300 kcal and burning 2700 kcal a day.

v Also this. Didn't peruse the diet.
 

Onemic

Member
fat intake is too damn high based off that relatively light diet. almost half of that diet is based off of shit thats high in fat. That's not to say fat is terrible and you should never eat it, but with such a light diet like that, which has very little amount of protein or complex carbs and a high amount of fat(peanut butter, almonds, avocados, cheese, eggs, and pure butter), you're not going to be that efficient in lowering your fat percentage losing weight. I can't even say that she is for sure gaining muscle as there's next to no protein in that diet.

Pretty much, that diet sucks. Less calories doesn't equal efficient weight loss.
 

DR2K

Banned
If she's truly eating less and doing P90 then the weight would fly off. She's probably cheating on her diet.
 
fat intake is too damn high based off that relatively light diet. almost half of that diet is based off of shit thats high in fat. That's not to say fat is terrible and you should never eat it, but with such a light diet like that, which has very little amount of protein or complex carbs and a high amount of fat(peanut butter, almonds, avocados, cheese, eggs, and pure butter), you're not going to be that efficient in lowering your fat percentage losing weight. I can't even say that she is for sure gaining muscle as there's next to no protein in that diet.

Pretty much, that diet sucks. Less calories doesn't equal efficient weight loss.

These fats are fine, sans butter.

Keep eating high fat, but also eat high protein. no-low carbs. Weight will drop off

Need to combine with exercise though. Been there done that
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Don't give into these low carb things or any of these weird paleo things. She must simply clean up her diet of processed foods and get regular exercise, meaning like 30 minutes every day. High Intensity Interval training can be made fun and is very effective.

I don't think you know what paleo is.
 
It's not fat, it's mass.

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But seriously, I can only echo what a few people have said here. 1) you'll hit plateaus 2) the scale only tells her how much she ways and not the components of that weight or her overall health 3) it'll take a while. Tell her to keep up the good work and if you haven't already done so, consider making it a couples activity.
 
Two weeks isn't enough. I went on a lowish (100) carb diet last summer and my weight would plateau for 2 weeks, and I'd suddenly drop like 8 pounds the following week.

Also, if she's drinking a lot of water, she might just be retaining more water weight. If she were to empty out her carb reserves, she'd probably drop 5+ lbs.



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... do you even know what paleo is?

I know it restricts you from a lot of good stuff you'll miss out on. Dairy, rice, oats, etc. Forget that. What I meant by processed stuff is the really unhealthy stuff like sugary cereals and junk food. But fancy diets are just psychologically restricting altogether imo because it'll always be planted in your brain. And it really doesn't have to be.
 

Meier

Member
I understand not reading all the replies, but the OP mentions she's doing Insanity and having an avocado and then multiple people are like eat avocados! Go to the gym!

Seriously people. For the record, I can't imagine eating such a bland diet all the time.. poor thing. :(
 

SMT

this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
You're extremely misinformed about fat and cholesterol and their effects on the human body. I'll leave it at that.



There are things in peanuts that make me suspicious of consuming them any substantial amount.

One example: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/aflatoxins-or-another-reason-to-shun-peanuts/#axzz1uCo114co

I prefer almonds/almond butter anyway.

What the hell? Everything I said is perfectly true, and I follow this regimen. If you abuse the dressings you will get fat, and clog your arteries. Are you kidding me? How is this misinformation? Armchair dietician, show me your physique. There's a difference between LOSING weight, and not wanting to gain weight.

It's always better to make your own dressings with olive oil, garlic, vinegar, and guess what, it speeds up your metabolism too.
Oh yes, and stay away from bread and gluten.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
What a shitty diet! Is she always going to live on Flax Seed and Benefiber for the rest of her life? No? Then learn to eat properly. Proper diet and excercise will shed those pounds.
 

rififi

Member
Yeah eating and acting like our bodies have evolved to over millions of years is weird.

It's also weird to completely underestimate what human physiology is capable of. Just because humans didn't eat grains before the agrarian revolution doesn't mean the human body was never capable of processing them.
Humans do not have an enzyme (or any microorganism that does in symbiosis) to break down cellulose, but yet humans were still capable of eating fruits and vegetables in pre-agrarian times.

Just because humans today in western societies are fat and unhealthy, doesn't mean all post-agrarian civilizations in history had unhealthy diets.

Today though, with industrial processing, grains and many foods are of course different - but going to the extreme of a paleo-diet because that is what paleolithic humans ate is a bit ridiculous.

For the record, I have no problem with the paleo-diet. If you have the commitment to do it, by all means. I haven't found any major risks to the diet. It's just the "evolutionary" reasoning behind it is a bit hyperbolic.
 
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