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1UP Yours (3/30/07)
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chibcicylist
Banned
Mifune said:
Mifune, meet Godfather Wii. Godfather Wii, meet Mifune.
farnham said:
Yes, I owned an SNES and I thought it'd be cool, but honestly I'm 18 now and I don't really care. I think this type of game has more appeal in the casual audience. I'd care about Mario vs. Sonic in smash brothers...that'd be cool. This just sounds like an Olympics game (OF WHICH I'VE BEEN FOOLED INTO BUYING MANY TIMES) with Mario and Sonic.
I am not going to automatically splooge just at the idea of having the two together. Sorry...I like ice cream and I like steak, but just putting them together for the sake of doing it doesn't appeal to me. Will Mario and Sonic in this game have any particular emphasis on the gameplay or is it just going to be some kind of mascot fanservice?
I see what you're saying, but "fanboy dream" and "hardcore crowd" doesn't always work out right because of system "biases."
Green Shinobi
Banned
You're right about that. I should just shut up.YYZ said:I would keep my mouth shut until you put out your own podcast that beats or at least matches every aspect of 1Up Yours.
It's easy to say that their job is so simple and anyone can do it, but actually doing it? It's not as simple as just talking about games.
And I don't look to Luke for his opinions like you said a lot of people do.
BTW Shawn is the best
You have to admit that there's a lot of d*ck sucking that occurs whenever a 1up guy (or any well-known gaming personality besides Dennis Dyack) posts here.
sounds a lot like wii sports to me.. and many millions of people enjoyed that game.. i played more hours playing wii sports with my friends then any of those great co op online what ever games.. and no it does not get boring.. eventhough i memorized every friggin course on the golf game now..Y2Kevbug11 said:
The people who work for 1up have an unbiased view of all consoles when it comes to reviewing and critiquing. They are professionals and have there job for a reason. I have heard each system bashed for there faults and each praised for the things they do well. The fact of the matter is you are listening to a podcast, a medium that allows the editors, writers and freelancers to express there personal OPINIONS on gaming.
farnham, you are simply upset that they don't agree with your opinions on a specific console and form your own "opinions" based around that fact. I apologize you can't enjoying gaming as a whole without certain companies cacks down your throat but unlike you, most people can. If you wan't to be a fanboy of a specific console and get hurt over certain peoples views on that subject then I suggest go listening to a podcast that caters towards people like you.
Grow up and get over it.
farnham, you are simply upset that they don't agree with your opinions on a specific console and form your own "opinions" based around that fact. I apologize you can't enjoying gaming as a whole without certain companies cacks down your throat but unlike you, most people can. If you wan't to be a fanboy of a specific console and get hurt over certain peoples views on that subject then I suggest go listening to a podcast that caters towards people like you.
Grow up and get over it.
chibcicylist said:
Really, it's good? I haven't paid much attention to that game.
As for "party games lawl" I really don't mean it as a knock. But honestly, the only time I turn on the Wii is to play Wii Sports with the girlfriend. Or to play a GC game. But does that really count?
TheGreatDave
Banned
Green Shinobi said:
I WANT TO BONE DAVID JAFFE
Trax416 said:
Game.com gets more talk time than the DS on EGM Live. Need I go on?
More entertaining?farnham said:
Ok. Thanks for not naming any of them.
The only gaming podcasts I can think of right now that are entertaining (besides 1Up) is IGN Game Scoop! which no one seems to listen to, Orange Lounge Radio (Sunday nights), Played, Gamespot's The Hotspot, and Uncle Gamer (not the most entertaining)
I would say the Video Game Show, but they're pretty much Xbox fanboys, no thanks (Gamercast Network, ugh).
Grecco said:
Whether or not it is happening is not relevant here. We're talking specifically about why they dismissed (or rather wanted to dismiss) this particular title. My personal likes and dislikes don't factor into play.
farnham said:
Honestly, Wii Sports is probably the worst game to draw an analog to when discussing the "hardcore demographic." Your mileage obviously varies, but let's be realistic.
farnham said:
Why are you throwing stones from that thumbsucker's house? I played in that era and those before it, and this is no megaton. Now if Miyamoto and Naka were getting together to for some sort of crossover masterpiece we could talk. Until then, it sounds like another potentially fun Wiimote-based minigame collection. It's this kind of shit that gives Nintendo zealots a bad name--same way the fools who think Superman-vs-Batman-vs-Alien-vs.-Predator is the illest idea ever make comic book readers look like twats.
But see, they aren't biased. They're gamers. And when there aren't new releases, then there are no new GAMES to play on the GAMES CONSOLE. They're excited about SPM, and I have no doubt that they will be singing the praise of the Wii when it's doing better game wise. They really aren't biased. They all have or want Wiis, and EGM said the Wii had a better launch then the PS3.Wiitard said:
Green Shinobi
Banned
Don't we all? But you have to understand, guys like Jaffe can have their pick of the fanboys. If he wanted to, he could sleep with a different fanboy every hour for the next ten years. You have to offer more than a slightly defined rear and a purty mouth if you want Jaffe to take notice.TheGreatDave said:
TheGreatDave
Banned
Green Shinobi said:
I think you just have to say his name in the mirror three times.
FartOfWar said:
1.
when was the last time Miyamoto actually made a Mario game.. Mario 64
when was the last time Naka made a sonic game.. Sonic Adventure
when was the last good mario game.. New super mario bros...
when was the last good sonic game.. Sonic Secret of the Rings.. or Sonic rush
both not made by naka or miyamoto..
2.
miyamoto is actually involved
3.
So you think that buying minigames is bad.. can you verify this opinion a little bit more.. isnt playing games for enjoyment.. if i like minigames (which i actually do.. i really enjoyed Wario ware.. i never bought mario party though) why should i be blamed for that..
what make minigames so much worse then a shooter..?
from a couple days ago, http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5938892&postcount=4
Bildi said:
yeah.
you guys can do our job better than we can. for sure.
the disgruntled gamer said:
Yes they do discuss Wii games when they have to. But they don't talk only about stuff about to be released, come on. Look, I would not be upset about it at all, if they said all the things they say, but then put a little footnote - yes, we are not excited about this game, but we thing it's going to be important (or not). Right now, Luke's statement about M&S Olympics makes him look like a complete idiot. And this is not just a service to the people who are into Wii. I think giving misleading predictions (or statements which can very easily be misinterpreted as such) about future successes of consoles is not doing anybody any favors.
Green Shinobi
Banned
I wasn't talking about the podcast so much as gaming journalism in general.Y2Kevbug11 said:
There is no doubt in my mind that the entire staff of gamepro.com could be replaced by NeoGAF posters, and the quality of the site would improve by leaps and bounds.
I agree that the podcasts are entertaining.
No offense to you, but if you don't want to hear people with strong opinions about things (because they have to spread the love and hate-WHICH THEY DO), you should probably take up reading GamePro.Wiitard said:
EDIT: Jesus, two mentions of GamePro in the same thread. What is GAF coming to?
GitarooMan
Member
Is this already so long already because of Wii defense force bias allegations again? Snore.....we get it, 1up doesn't love the Wii like you.
farnham said:
If you were reading my posts in this thread you'd note that I think micro, mini, ultra-accessible, whatever kind of games are good. With the comics analogy I meant to underscore the silliness of assuming that two things you've liked separately are automatically magic together, regardless of context. (I also wanted to highlight the money-printing motivation.)
Now, as much as I like minigames, and as eager as I am to buy a Wii when some store wants to sell me one without making me wait outside for it at 6am, that's not to say that I think an Olympics game with Sonic and Mario in it calls for crapping in your pants. Fun? Likely so? History making, monumental, megaton? Post some more about that so I have a Hero of the Web to read next week.
TheGreatDave
Banned
farnham said:oh sorry but that does not look like Dream cast at all..
this looks like dreamcast
I don't feel all that passionately on the issue to be honest. To me, it looks nothing above Dreamcast/mid Gamecube. I have no problem with the game or anything, but it's hardly a SLAM to say it looks like a Dreamcast game with nice effects
TheGreatDave
Banned
FartOfWar said:
I'm pretty much in agreement. Honestly, I imagine the DS version is gonna be total shit, but the Wii version could be a really fun game, for what it is. When you know nothing about it, you can't be excited because of the IP.
farnham said:
Cool!
Father_Mike
Member
:lol @ the end. GTA segment was a little weak but other than that it was good.
skip said:
Do you think you might have added that the title of the thread was "Favorite EGM April Fools joke?" just to provide a little context... I guess not.
the disgruntled gamer said:
"M&S is ridiculous. Ha-ha-ha. For idiots." - not quite cool
"M&S is ridiculous. Ha-ha-ha. For idiots. However we believe that it will sell a lot and certainly help Wii's momentum" - cool
or
"M&S is ridiculous. Ha-ha-ha. For idiots. We know a lot of people think this might be a success and a system-seller, but here is why we think they are wrong: " - cool
I have a PS3 but I don't let it bother me too much when podcasts constantly make jokes about it.Wiitard said:
Why let this Wii stuff bother you? Wii is riding a wave of success and popularity right now. I only mind if the podcasters are fanboys and the 1Up crew plays all games.
skip said:
Oh, I agree it would be totally legitimate for you to make this point. I can see how you can feel this to be insensitive despite the thread it was in.
BUT YOU STILL SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THE NAME OF THE THREAD and then made whatever commentary you wanted to make. Yes, I do feel not doing so was misleading to other reader of the thread.
it depends on what occasion and how it is handled..FartOfWar said:
for example.. Super smash bros is awesome.. Capcom Vs. Marvel is awesome..
many other games that tried it failed..
The reason why Sonic and Mario in one game is so big , in my opinion is.. that mario and sonic both are very strong IPs on their own.. (well sonic went downhill quite a lot.. but still on nintendo hardware its selling strongly)
both IPs were successful ICONs for each companies (Sega and Nintendo) often they were platform defining games (super mario bros for NES, Mario 64 for SNES and Sonic for Genesis arguably Sonic Adventure for DC) and they do represent a rivalry not only of the characters or IP itself but of both companies..
Why is it history making..? because it could mark a new era for both companies.. Sega stopped making hardware and made games for other platforms.. last gen there was virtually no sega game on GC that was not a DC port.. Billy hatcher and Fzero GX comes into mind..
yet the best selling games were clearly on GC.. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 .. Sonic mega collection.. super monkey ball (oh thats a new IP for last gen.. my bad).. those games sold very very well.. still Sega did not care much about GC.. while they shipped games after games on the other platforms.. (which sold crappy)
there was a interview with the Sega ceo a few days ago.. which basically said that they will focus on DS and the Wii from now on.. and i think this is the start of this new strategy of sega..(oshare sold 1 million on DS.. Sonic rush still seems to be selling in europe.. sangokushi card battle DS sold pretty well)
which i think will work well and as Sega does make more money their games will get back to their former quality..