Mr. Enigma
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Giant Bomb's article is up now as well.
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/when-passions-flare-lines-are-crossed/4006/
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/when-passions-flare-lines-are-crossed/4006/
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Cross Assault Thread: Get Cross, taste Salt (SFxT Reality Show)
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Finally!
If the stuff is true about her not willing to learn from Valle is true, then I lose sympathy for her as a serious player, but that still doesn't excuse the treatment she got. The two issues are separate.
That said, I'd probably get frustrated trying to learn from Valle myself, as I know what he'd tell me to work on is the area of the game I find extremely difficult.
A lot of the journalists behind this were on Twitter yesterday- and many of them love fighting games but have a very low opinion of the community, so not surprised at the articles coming out.
That said, I'd probably get frustrated trying to learn from Valle myself, as I know what he'd tell me to work on is the area of the game I find extremely difficult.
A lot of the journalists behind this were on Twitter yesterday- and many of them love fighting games but have a very low opinion of the community, so not surprised at the articles coming out.
brightroar
Member
Well, that article is not as bad as expected.. Doubt there will be any fall out from it, its pretty meh..
Edit: the Sterling one anyway...
Edit: the Sterling one anyway...
sixteen-bit
Member
I hope he updates more than Chris
KidA Seven
Member
Thanks bros. I'm not clicking that shit.
MiniBossBattle
Member
Sherry is talking about cars. Be still my beating heart.
notworksafe
Member
EDIT: DAMN, AnEternalEnigma also beat me to it.
IT HAS BEGUN.
FGC x Internet Media
FIGHT!
Writers who don't know shit vs Stream monstering idiots who don't know shit.
Should be great.
Fuck Sterling. Always. Dude will turn any minor piece of garbage into link bait. He even admits in his own article that there is no story.
"Super Yan has since stated that the issue was cleared up and that she's finished with it, but the debate over what is acceptable banter and what isn't marches on. "
So basically there is no story here. Thanks for wasting my time, Jim Sterling. Also, trawling twitter posts for quotes is not good journalism.
So basically there is no story here. Thanks for wasting my time, Jim Sterling. Also, trawling twitter posts for quotes is not good journalism.
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Patrick's article is a lot more coherent and gives a pretty clear picture albeit from a bit of an outsider's perspective, Sterling's does not.
Posted for your perusal. Same article is here if you want to give them hits.
Arturo, why are you the only one who interacted with Ono the other day? I'd totally take him on 1v1 and shoot the shit about fighting games.
Dude is clearly made of pure #swag. Was awkward when he came in in that Blanka outfit and no one was laughing or acknowledging the poor guy. I'm sure he knit it by himself.
I had 5-10 minutes with him tops. I have a new found respect for the guy Ono is the man. I tried to say as much as i could but I didn't wanna overwhelm him too much. He's there for meetings at capcom. Really nice to talk to svenson about pc brief as it was too
Stabby McSter
Member
bah, super jelly. All I have is a picture with him and a SFIV poster signed by the man himself.
MrSaltyPringles
Member
So is this Jim Sterling like the Bill O'Reilly of video games?
notworksafe
Member
Two articles with all the quotes sourced from tweets and streams with barely any insight and no new info. This is the best either site can do?
I expect this mess from Sterling, but GB should have done better.
Sven seems like the only guy who likes PC in Capcom. Did you ask him what's up with almost 3 months of delay for a patch that a community member (Yeb) made even before it came out on console?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Don't take this like I'm defending Aris or anything, but something that both those articles fail to point out is that Aris isn't saying that sexual harassment is a part of the community per se, as much as he's saying that the raw, politically uncorrect, uncensored, not-give-a-fuck attitude is.
CountAntonius
Member
Oh boy the articles are out.
/cringe
/cringe
KidA Seven
Member
Cloudius12
Member
Yea, Aris didn't exactly word it very well.
Stabby McSter
Member
Unless the quotes from people saying that "rape that bitch" is acceptable are complete lies it doesn't matter if they are posted on the blog of Jared's mom/gf/brother etc.
Fucking disgusting.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The comments in the GB article are mostly against Aris and not the fgc as a whole. That's something good I guess
As much as I enjoy Whiskey Media's content, I feel like the piece is really one-sided. Jared is often their go-to guy for all things fighting games so it's not that surprising that he's mentioned repeatedly. Gerstmann always references him in regards to "serious SF players", etc.
I know Aris didn't comment, so Klepek can always point to not being able to reach anyone, but why not Valle, Max or Markman, three other OGs of the FGC that are completely involved with CA?
Props to Sterling (how rare is that?!) for actually acknowledging that there was such a strong response against Aris' feelings and that he did, indeed, represent a very small, vocal minority.
Whatever, there will be a few misguided podcasts done by writers with zero connection or interest in the FGC and some upcoming rebuttal articles posted and in a month, we'll all be arguing over some broken mechanic or character found in this game and not all this nonsense.
I know Aris didn't comment, so Klepek can always point to not being able to reach anyone, but why not Valle, Max or Markman, three other OGs of the FGC that are completely involved with CA?
Props to Sterling (how rare is that?!) for actually acknowledging that there was such a strong response against Aris' feelings and that he did, indeed, represent a very small, vocal minority.
Whatever, there will be a few misguided podcasts done by writers with zero connection or interest in the FGC and some upcoming rebuttal articles posted and in a month, we'll all be arguing over some broken mechanic or character found in this game and not all this nonsense.
notworksafe
Member
And he's right. I wouldn't want the FGC any other way. Also there are SC2 players who refer to a heavy beatdown as a "raping". Sorry to ruin your perfect image of the SC2 scene Jared.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That part being brought up was the dumbest thing ever. Phoenix is a bitch. She's a bitch in the comics as well.
I only had a minute or two with him there was no time. I just expressed to him that I love pc releases and I know there's problems but plz keep working on it.
Dtoid article....oh man
things are definitely not black and white here at all
Yeah, they're both doing a good job of consolidating all that was there [with the first article leaning more towards baiting however], but this is a pretty big element that's getting lost in translation.
sixteen-bit
Member
I don't agree with Aris there. I think it's against the TOS to link the entire article without a source, do you have a link to it?
MiniBossBattle
Member
I hate Phoenix
lol
Which is exactly what is deserved given what happened. Hopefully the black eye will help cause some change. That said, I don't think much is going to change.
I support Jared's efforts 100% here. I support folks like UltraDavid and his class act.
I'm angry about this stuff because I want the games to be open to everyone, people shouldn't have to go through a ton of crap just to play and compete. Also, one of the guys who taught me KOF, is gay, and has largely quit competitive gaming over this stuff. He can still kick my ass online easily though.
As for PC, I think fighters are going to have to move to the PC sooner or later, as middle-budget games become harder to make a profit on console. Fighting games are really in terms of budget/fandom, around the scope of TBS games like Civ, with smaller budget fighters being similar to smaller budget TBS's.
notworksafe
Member
This isn't one of them.
All Jared wants is to get paid. The bigger and more clean FGs get means more people watching streams and ads to put money in his pocket. It's not like he's on this crusade with some righteous ideals.
Aruarian Reflection
Chauffeur de la gdlk
The SAT test still has analogies right?
Mainstream gaming : FGC :: OT-GAF : NBA-GAF
Mainstream gaming : FGC :: OT-GAF : NBA-GAF
narcosis219
Member
We all (all of us that know how Aris is) know he isn't specifically saying sexual harassment is part of the community, but damn, what he said is directly saying that it is. To a person who doesn't know who he is, those quotes are saying that he thinks that sexual harassment is part of the community.
Stream transcript said:
and
Stream transcript said:
are pretty upfront about it.
Point is, Aris should shut the hell up and not speak for the community. He's loud and he was heard, and really, you can't blame the journalists for writing their articles the way they did. This isn't an SRK or eventhubs article where the writers knows how Aris is.
tl;dr: JOURNALISM!!
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
That Giant Bomb article BLOWS MY MIND. So many things not presented information wise, which seems to be on purpose. I'll not say anything, because I'd rather it come from the official source.
Stabby McSter
Member
I generally like how passionate Klepek is for his reporting.
However, this article offends me.
fixed
Perfect analogy.
FGC is gamingside's BestGAF.
Let them know, Max!