More_Badass
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As in a replacement show where the protagonist aren't heroes or are mortally grey? Have you seen The Americans?
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Narcos |OT| There's no business like blow business - Netflix - *spoilers for S1*
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Just really I meant overall quality. I liked The Returned(french version) from last year but nothing I have seen recently really reaches the pinnacle that those shows did. But I have heard The Americans is good. Might need to check it out.
I guess it was bound to happen eventually. I have been spoiled with at least 1-2 shows since The Sopranos that just compete for some of the best TV I have ever seen but there seems to be a bit of a lull right now when it comes to truly elite level TV shows.
You watching Mr. Robot?
forgeforsaken
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Have you watched Mr. Robot?
In regards to Narcos, does the narration ever slow down? There was like 10-1 narration v. dialogue in the first episode.
1.)Haha two votes independent of each other for it. Ill throw it on my list to give a shot. Premise sounds interesting.
2.) Im on episode 2. The narration slows a bit but is still pretty heavy. Whatever review said the show comes off like a Ken Burns documentary is sort of on to something. I feel like I am watching a very stylized Burns esque documentary with a TV show tacked on. Its good, just not quite what I was expecting.
exmachina64
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I'm on episode 2 and I'm enjoying it so far.
Lukewarm reviews? Majority of the reviews I've seen have been very positive.
exmachina64
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Spoilers:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/arts/television/netflix-looks-to-narcos-for-a-new-audience.html
http://www.bustle.com/articles/1069...s-takes-a-hard-look-at-columbian-drug-cartels
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...ies-film-colombia-drugs-kingpin-pablo-escobar
http://www.news.com.au/technology/h...of-pablo-escobar/story-fn8tnfhb-1227496810147
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medellín_Cartel
I just binged through the first three episodes. It's been great so far, but the guy playing Escobar has a terrible accent when speaking Spanish.
It's so distracting, especially since everyone else sounds so natural. Having the main guy sound fake when he speaks takes me out completely.
It's so distracting, especially since everyone else sounds so natural. Having the main guy sound fake when he speaks takes me out completely.
It's really rough, I like Moura and I can tell he tried but it definitely takes you out.
Also that definition of magic realism isn't exactly accurate, although I guess at the end the story will fit the actual definition.
Baroquemantic
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Watched the first two episodes. This is good. Damn good. Netflix really has an amazing lineup of original content.
WAR recon zero
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Episode two was great. Good fiction and some reality there and
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I like the use of real footage. The show has an element of dark humor to it, where sometimes you'll laugh at some of the horrible shit that's happening on screen.
And then the real footage makes you go "oh yeah, this shit actually happened. I feel like crap now."
Frustrated_me
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Really enjoying the narration as well as the real footage, this has a real BLOW feel to it.
Onto episode 4.
Onto episode 4.
The show has some pretty good directing and the acting is all well done, but the constant narration is frustratingly distracting. Please, make it stop. It feels like I'm never really in the heads of the characters, I'm just a bystander listening to historic bulletpoints.
Rectify is one of the best televisions shows ever made and it just had yet another unbelievable season. Deustchland '83 is phenomenal. Mr. Robot is astonishing, one of the best new shows in years.
Rectify is one of the best televisions shows ever made and it just had yet another unbelievable season. Deustchland '83 is phenomenal. Mr. Robot is astonishing, one of the best new shows in years.
richardhawk
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I feel bad for you guys that don't know a lick of spanish. The slang adds a good amount of jokes to it.
Thanks! I'll add them to the list.
I'll also echo the feeling that the show comes off like a narrated bullet point of history. Doesn't make it bad for me but it does so far make it feel disconnected, less immersive and has made it hard to empathize with any of the characters due to the constantly shifting timeline and narration breaks. It's good, but not in the way I was expecting.
Based on the complaints people are having with Escobar's actor's bad accent it might be better I don't haha.
obin_gam
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Just saw the first episode and do not understand the luke warm reviews. This was fantastically entertaining! Only thing I dont like is the blonde DEA gringo. Completely uninterested in his story.
Seems also that it's a plus to not speak any of the south american languages in the show, for me it all sounds the same so I can't complain about an actor having a terrible accent or whatever
Regarding the narration and story telling - I dont really know what I want for the upcoming episodes - I liked the fast pace, but in some instances it almost seemed too fast paced. Like, it's just the first episode guys, slow down a bit!
Seems also that it's a plus to not speak any of the south american languages in the show, for me it all sounds the same so I can't complain about an actor having a terrible accent or whatever
Regarding the narration and story telling - I dont really know what I want for the upcoming episodes - I liked the fast pace, but in some instances it almost seemed too fast paced. Like, it's just the first episode guys, slow down a bit!
If i knew this before watching I wouldn't have bothered.
Voiceover and white male lead was too corny
Poor performances from most of the actors albeit not helped by the dull dialog
Silly scenes all round
Hilariously historical framing of the political dynamics in Latin America
The basic plot is actually 'good' and interesting if you've never ever heard the Pablo Escoba story. But this is even incomplete because they are stretching it to two seasons. Bah. I enjoyed Club de Cuervos more and that S1 ended
on an even bigger cliffhanger
This is the weirdest complain I've seen.
You do know Escobar was white, right? Or is this one of those weird instances when americans don't think hispanics can be white?
Edit: oh wait you mean the dea agent? Because it also doesnt make sense.
Admiral Woofington
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I thought I was going to hate it as a colombian, but no. First episode was great. Music and accents were authentic
Admiral Woofington
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Everything they've shown is well known. Like in the first episode where he knew every single cop and their families. He was known for personally threatening and knowing intimate details of lives. The level of detail they put into making it a period piece is astounding.
Netflix has been hitting it out of the park. Gonna go pimp out the show to all of my family in Colombia.
Do you think Moura's accent is good?
I think that is why I'm loving it a lot. I was (very) little when Pablo was making airwaves and when he was killed. I knew of him and some of his history (funny enough, I knew more about him giving money away to the poor than his killings), but never the whole story. The producers putting in footage and photographs from the past was an amazing touch.
I'm going to show it to my family as well.
WAR recon zero
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He tries. He's magnificent as an actor. but it's hard. Pablo's cousin actir is Colombian and he does a better job.
Sometimes it comes natural and sometimes it doesn't..
XGRaViSmOrSX
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Watching this just reignited my hatred for Reagan and the "war on drugs".
Torn between wanting to see my hometown on a show and being close enough to the subject matter to feel uncomfortable.
I don't know how my family would feel about it. We still have a letter Escobar wrote us when my dad was kidnapped. (In which he pretty much said "I know I've screwed your family before but this time it wasn't me.")
They'd probably be most annoyed by the actor's accent though.
I don't know how my family would feel about it. We still have a letter Escobar wrote us when my dad was kidnapped. (In which he pretty much said "I know I've screwed your family before but this time it wasn't me.")
They'd probably be most annoyed by the actor's accent though.
Yes the DEA agent who provides the voiceovers
Admiral Woofington
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Honestly? There are instances where the accent does slip up quite a bit, but the fact he's trying so hard is endearing because he gets it right so much as well I forgive the occasional slip up. It almost sounds like somebody from Cali who has been living in the US and the occasional word loses the accent. He's the least believable by far but still good enough.
And let's be honest much better than Vinny Chase in Medellin.
My dad was already watching it haha, he's loving it too. When he was part of the colombian navy he was chasing down Narcos as well. One of Pablo's friends, can't remember which, made a death threat to one of his best friends.
Episode 2 is. Do people not like subtitles?
Yes. 60% English and 40% Spanish iirc
Admiral Woofington
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As a colombian born person who has been naturalized into the US due to living here for so long, I'm constantly struggling in either reading the subtitles or ignoring them as I could understand without them. But some instances in the show they mumble what they said as it's intended to use the subtitles, so I read more often than not.
Gray Matter
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I fully expected this to be spoken in English the entire time. Even as a Spanish speaker I'm not used to the Spanish the way is spoken in South America (I'm from the Dominican Republic for reference) and need the English subs to fully understand what's going on.
I mean, true detective season 1 set the bar way too high for season 2 to remotely blow us away like season 1 did. I haven't watched past episode 2 of season 2 so I don't know if it gets better or not, however.
Daniel B·;176894085 said:I think this squarely settles the "Netflix serious competition for HBO?" debate (I just finished Ep5)
I mean, true detective season 1 set the bar way too high for season 2 to remotely blow us away like season 1 did. I haven't watched past episode 2 of season 2 so I don't know if it gets better or not, however.
Admiral Woofington
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If you had been in the thread when it was airing, you would know that Season 2 was a trainwreck regardless of S1 quality. Think about it as the director of Donnie Darko. He made that and people thought it was brilliant, then we all realized that was his one thing and everything else he made was shitty.
Not to say pizza man can't recover, but S2 was bad. No way around it. It's even the consensus in the general population. Heck, even Conan acknowledged it when he started a skit.
WAR recon zero
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Yeah this show uses A LOT of Medellin slang.
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Episode 3
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Rodrigo was protrayed as a sexy mofo. His death still hurts man... Rip
Episode 4
Pablo earned more than GM. 60 million a day. Damn
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