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RUMOR: Tales of Symphonia HD Remaster Collection coming to PS3?
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Professor Beef
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dakkumauji
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But Para Ball spam is so much fun.
FaintDeftone
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Tales of Symphonia is the only game in the series I even liked. The rest of them I've played are garbage (given, I haven't played them all but quite a few). I still own it on the GCN but I would consider an HD remake.
I hope it's not just an HD Port. The game could really use a remake if they're going to milk the series like they always do.
Also Colette has Poison Hammer.
The party system being borked is something they've done in all spinoffs up until NDX for some reason. Kinda dumb.
Also Colette has Poison Hammer.
It's worth playing since it's like an extended epilogue. It's not a fully fledged sequel.
The party system being borked is something they've done in all spinoffs up until NDX for some reason. Kinda dumb.
ArchangelWest
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I couldn't stand her either the first few times I played it. But by about your 8th playthrough of any Tales game, when you take the time to get all of the skits for each character and do all of their side quests, they tend to grow on you. I still can't stand Anise from Abyss though... Hey, I tried. Ion dies every time though. XD
I think it has a good chance of being released in the West regardless.
As for the issue of Nintendo doing the localization before, they'd probably have to redo it anyway especially since it'd be a pain for Namco to gather the old VA to record the new lines from the new content from the PS2 version.
Symphonia is the most successful Tales of in the west, they'd be crazy to skip it.
That means that they would have to redo Symphonia 2 as well and I could see them not wanting to do that. I'd like to be wrong but...
Not necessarily. They already have a new cast from Symphonia 2 they use for the VA they couldn't get back. (In otherwords, I could see Symphonia getting the remake treatment, and Symphonia 2 getting an upscale with small gameplay changes).
In an ideal world, they'd just use the Xillia engine and redo both games with it (and get ufotable to do the anime cutscenes), but I doubt they'd put the effort.
flatearthpandas
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Tales of Symphonia was really my first JRPG and I love it to this day.
Which is part of the reason I still own it and still have a system that can play it. So as much as I love it, think I'll pass on an HD port. Cheers to those who are into that, and I'm sorry for those who haven't played the game because the truth is that the mechanics in the series have evolved a great deal since then.
But then again... HD Sheena...
Which is part of the reason I still own it and still have a system that can play it. So as much as I love it, think I'll pass on an HD port. Cheers to those who are into that, and I'm sorry for those who haven't played the game because the truth is that the mechanics in the series have evolved a great deal since then.
But then again... HD Sheena...
ArchangelWest
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'Miss Jooblies' lol
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Remakes would be cool.
They could have the character designs for KoR updated by Fujishima assuming he's not busy this time around.
They could have the character designs for KoR updated by Fujishima assuming he's not busy this time around.
Dark Schala
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June 1 and 2, iirc.
beyond_death
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I loved the shit out of Symphonia, I would buy it in no time. I havent played the sequel though.
The whole business part of the Tales series has never made sense at all.
Nintendo proved Tales could sell over a million. On a Nintendo platform. IIRC, Symphonia is still one of highest performing Tales games.
Namco's response? Instead of striking while the iron is hot, wait to release a sequel to Symphonia years after the fact. And a lower graphical bar than the original game on better hardware.
ArchangelWest
Member
Exactly.
It looks better than it did when it was being developed. They didn't even want to use many resources on the sequel until the Wii was selling well in Japan. So the game, even though it's mediocre in a lot of areas, could have been a lot worse.
Though to be fair, the Tales fanbase has always been on Sony platforms in Japan. They should have made Abyss multiplatform for the US but didn't.
clay_ghost
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I still feel that if this HD remaster is real, it will come to the wiiu too. Also symphonia 2 sold almost as much as tov even its have less than half on its budget LOL
ArchangelWest
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I bought my 360 for Vesperia. That's how much I wanted to play it. Too bad the game didn't do better though. It's quite excellent. Wrong platform I guess.
dakkumauji
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Worldwide. But Namco didn't care and still kinda doesn't care about sales outside of Japan.
It doesn't help that the PS2 port of Symphonia outsold the original game in Japan.
Vesperia, like a lot of other Tales games, is another example of Namco not knowing how to sell their own stuff. At least they put it on Games on Demand so you don't have to pay 90$ for it on ebay.
Canadian Psycho
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We need a PS2 era collection that includes Tales of Rebirth and Tales of Destiny 2 (Jap.), not of games that were already published here.
Selling great despite some miniscule extras, long load times (which transferred over to PS2 Tales of the Abyss), worse textures, and a lower framerate in battle (30 FPS vs 60 FPS).
/sigh
This is why I hope this remaster collection is true, ToS still doesn't really have a definitive version.
Baby steps. Also you forgot Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut.
FateBreaker
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Vesperia did fine here; it's Japan that was the issue--and even that wasn't super bad, since it's the best-selling Xbox 360 game of all time in Japan at 200k+.
That'll be the day.
Also expectations. It's not meant to be a fully fledged sequel, it's not a mothership title.
dakkumauji
Member
It would also break the game but why the hell not!
They really should just slap Xillia/Xillia 2's engine on it. The Link Arte system replacing or complementing the Unison Attack system just makes too much sense not to do.
EDIT: And use Vesperia's artstyle. Anyone who's fought Kratos in Vesperia could attest that it'd look beautiful in HD this way.
flatearthpandas
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Possibly, but I bought it Day 1 and hated it quite intensely. Greatly preferred Graces f, even in story and characters. Also preferred Abyss 3D. Not sure what else has released here besides Vesperia with the Tales name on it since DotNW.
The only reason I ask for a remake rather than a "remaster" or hd collection is because if Dolphin is anything to go by, Symphonia looks like shit in HD. The chibi style comes off as blocky and imo it never worked the the 3D format to begin with.
Heh, I wish they'd just include the PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia on the disc instead of the shitty Symphonia sequel and then put it out in America.
Given that Vesperia is already out in Japan, it is likely to be omitted in this Tales HD collection if the rumour is true. Namco got to sell something to the fans in Japan. As for this game, I have an interest to find out what's good about ToS that the fans, mostly Nintendo crowd, were fond of.
You're comparing a spinoff to fully featured games though. It's more like an extended epilogue leading to Phantasia.
Exactly.
For most US fans it was their first Tales game, so that's part of it. I mostly enjoyed it since I really adore the Aselia world. It's unfortunately aged poorly compared to newer titles so a remake would be nice if they're going to milk things.
ArchangelWest
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I hated it because it's a Symphonia sequel that didn't allow you to be the characters you want to be very much. Meaning the originals. You pretty much ALWAYS had to have whiny, annoying Emil in the party, and annoying Marta, who came out so strong at the beginning, ended up being needy and pretty much only useful for her Ougi by the end of the game.
They had to change all of the voices, which I understand, but it sucked.
Monsters, which took up by default 2 slots of your party for much of the game couldn't use items which sucked.
Side quests, were just meaningless 'quests' in areas already played, and had no meaningful dialogue or story relevance. Though if you suffered through a ton of them simply for the sake of prolonging your time with the original characters, sometimes you got a few more skits.
Cooking was only for the monster's benefit.
I did like the rather deep item and item upgrade system, I loved that all of the skits were voiced, and the game had its cool moments, but it as compared to the first it wasn't very good.
ArchangelWest
Member
For me personally, it was the anime art style and the multiplayer that initially hooked me. Great story, and a lot of fun can be had doing all of the side quests. The characters are so enjoyable.
ArchangelWest
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By the way, I've been inspired by this thread to listen to the extended version of Fatalize on Youtube.
Abyssion is an awesome boss.
Abyssion is an awesome boss.
Canadian Psycho
Banned
I hear it's great, but at least I can play the original iteration on an NA PS1 (loved it). I'd rather see a compilation of unreleased games (I hear there are also a couple good ones on the Japanese PSP and DS (but also a very bad one, if I recall correctly)).Baby steps. Also you forgot Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut.