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SOCOM Confrontation - Impressions/reviews/etc
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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Whats people favorite moment?
In the beta i was in a 6 on 6 match with the hostages or whatever, had to kill em all, anyways all my team had been killed without respawn and there where 4 guys on their team left. Anyways had the silenced P-90 and went fucking all stealth, seen all 4 guys where hiding around the hostages, popped one guy in the head hiding behing a car, tilted arounda corner and emptied a clip into another, took out a sniper at the end of the road with a long shot and then ran inside and killed the hostages while the other guy was looking for me, killed him as he ran in through the door then killed the last hostage.
Was on the market level.
Also on same level but with the map as big as possible some dude was sniping from up near the big statue where the Seals spawn, i was in the base where the terrorists spawn (i was a terrorist) had a sweet sniper battle, he go me in the shoulder or something, i got him in the face from across the map, was awesome.
In the beta i was in a 6 on 6 match with the hostages or whatever, had to kill em all, anyways all my team had been killed without respawn and there where 4 guys on their team left. Anyways had the silenced P-90 and went fucking all stealth, seen all 4 guys where hiding around the hostages, popped one guy in the head hiding behing a car, tilted arounda corner and emptied a clip into another, took out a sniper at the end of the road with a long shot and then ran inside and killed the hostages while the other guy was looking for me, killed him as he ran in through the door then killed the last hostage.
Was on the market level.
Also on same level but with the map as big as possible some dude was sniping from up near the big statue where the Seals spawn, i was in the base where the terrorists spawn (i was a terrorist) had a sweet sniper battle, he go me in the shoulder or something, i got him in the face from across the map, was awesome.
shpankey
not an idiot
mine was probably when 3 of us really worked together to hunt the last two guys on the other team. one was on the roof on market and one of our guys spotted him when the sniper was taking shots at him and pinned him down in the middle. so he was relaying to us where he was over the mic and me and the other guy worked our way around to his bldg, cleared the rooms on the bottom onto our way to the roof and came up behind him, knifed killed the sniper, freeing our man in the middle up. then we all hooked back up and tactically sweeped through the map until I ran into him, the guy got the better of me but I was able to dodge into a short alley to save my life and the other two guys took him out.
i love the teamwork in this game when you get some good guys and it all comes together. i will sit through a lot of shitty games just to get to those great ones.
i love the teamwork in this game when you get some good guys and it all comes together. i will sit through a lot of shitty games just to get to those great ones.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
There's a lot for me.
One of my favorite happened last night when I was in a 8v8 Medley room,, Demolition game, with 2 clans going at it (5-6 a side). I was on the side with the crappier clan and we got murdered the first few rounds because the other side kept camping and sniping. After the 6th round, my entire team minus 2 or 3 people left the game, so we were left with less than half a team. And then...
I won the 7th round by going 5-0, taking out their entire team and disabling their bomb plant (one guy was left on the other team because he was trying to snipe me while I disabled the bomb). Then the 8th round, I won it again for my team (we had some new joiners), going 5-0 again. In the end, my team still lost because we didn't have any bomb plants, but we tied the game 4-4. I came out with the MVP by going 16-3 and now my SOCOM e-peen got enlarged by .4 inches.
It's examples like this that makes me love SOCOM and in particular, Confrontation. When you're "on" and actually skilled enough, 1 person can take out an entire team and be the "difference-maker" in games. I'm a relatively new Confrontation player (started after Christmas), and I sucked for the first week or two of playing.
Like Resistance and all good shooters, Confrontation punishes the crappy/mediocre players ruthlessly (easy to die, no respawns, etc.), but also allows a lot of room for improvement if you're willing to learn, adapt, and use your head. On the other hand, the game richly rewards those who have learned from past mistakes, have improved their game, can outsmart and outgun others, and can adapt to the playstyle of both your team and the opposing team.
shpankey said:mine was probably when 3 of us really worked together to hunt the last two guys on the other team. one was on the roof on market and one of our guys spotted him when the sniper was taking shots at him and pinned him down in the middle. so he was relaying to us where he was over the mic and me and the other guy worked our way around to his bldg, cleared the rooms on the bottom onto our way to the roof and came up behind him, knifed killed the sniper, freeing our man in the middle up. then we all hooked back up and tactically sweeped through the map until I ran into him, the guy got the better of me but I was able to dodge into a short alley to save my life and the other two guys took him out.
i love the teamwork in this game when you get some good guys and it all comes together. i will sit through a lot of shitty games just to get to those great ones.
Yeah, there's nothing better than working together with a good team that uses strategy. When a team is able to move together, covering each other, and sweep rooms/zones, it's simply an amazing sight to behold and experience. Then add good communication and cooperation, it's like shooter heaven, lol. Problem is, these games don't happen all the time, but IMO, it happens more often in SOCOM games than most other shooting games.
I think SOCOM players are a special breed. You get the worst of the worst (immature kids, ignorant racists, overly egotistical assholes, teamkillers, etc.), but you also get the best of the best (cool people, great players, team players, etc.) of gamers playing this game. Playing Confrontation has brought back a lot of the memories of playing S2, remembering that this is a game that can REALLY piss me off and frustrate me, but can also REALLY make me laugh, giggle, and have a great time.
Beardz
Member
Click said:
Same here, just few games can make me get angry, Socom is one of them, but again, few games can make feel real "good" when I win and my team was actually playing like a team.
It's really amazing when 2 or 3 guys are walking together, everybody watching diferent angles, entering a room one at a time, the last guy watching the back, etc.
I've never used it, but I saw a guy manage to spin around wildly with the trigger held and drop the two people that were at his back with headshots. :lolClick said:
Are you playing later tonight? This new class schedule is really fucking me up, but I have some free time.
Unless Click is your teammate and harasses you when you fail it for the team. :lolalterno69 said:
I still haven't adapted to the whole Elimination thing - I used to love being down a few people (S2 days) knowing I had to pick up the slack and find the enemies or else we lost... now you have to hide like a bitch for 5 minutes and take the draw. I don't mind being penalized with the wait for dying because it makes the killing that much more rewarding, but Elimination is terrible compared to Suppression.
Greg said:
I'm on now...
Greg said:
Hey now. It's called motivation, not harassment. >.>
Plus, if people are dumb and make mistakes, I feel like it's my duty to educate them so they won't repeat it again.
Greg said:
Elimination is pretty good, but like I said last page, it encourages over-camping. But it does make sense. If you're outnumbered, you shouldn't be required to run around looking for people, when they could be camping and/or setting an ambush for you. I like both Elimination and Suppression. I just want Suppression (only) room to be available as a game option.
mr stroke
Member
just picked this up after hearing about the 1.3 patch, and after playing for 5 hours tonight I must say the game is running like butter so far
much better than the last time I played it(beta)
nice to play Socom again after all the COD running and gunning, not many games like it anymore other than Ghost Recon. add me to the GAF Socom list, lets play.
PSN- mr stroke
much better than the last time I played it(beta)
nice to play Socom again after all the COD running and gunning, not many games like it anymore other than Ghost Recon. add me to the GAF Socom list, lets play.
PSN- mr stroke
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy said:
I dont think I have a favorite moment, but I will mention that I very much enjoy any time I'm in a gun fight with someone and we're dancing around cover (a fruit cart, a bus, a shipping container) and instead of reloading my primary I take the time to swap to my secondary (Desert Eagle) to put him down.
In COD4, for example, there's really nothing special about this action. But in SOCOM, I find this so incredibly hard to do (maybe because I'm new?) that I find great satisfaction when I'm actually able to execute it. There's a couple things that make this hard compared to others:
1. your quick swap might be on grenades from having used them earlier in the round, so you (I?) have to take a moment to stop movement and use the weapon wheel to switch. (compared to reloading your primary, where you are able to continue movement while performing the action)
2. you really need to aim. spray and pray doesnt usually work out that well; the DE in particular, you need to aim each bullet.
The combination of the sound of the Desert Eagle, the DualShock vibration, seeing the man drop with his ragdoll animation, and the relative rareness (for me) of this happening, is very satisfying. Managed to do it 1 out of 4 tries last night.
I picked up SOCOM when it came out and i have to say Ive only played maybe three matches. Every time I decide to try it again I play 1 then I turn it off. I don't know why but I cant get in to this game, could be lack of patience or the fact that I don't know anyone who plays it(not to mention its an on-line only game so I have no single player to cut my teeth on).
For the most part I cant get more than one kill before being shot myself, maybe if I could play with some people who know what they are doing and know that I don't I cold break though one and done slump I'm in.
For the most part I cant get more than one kill before being shot myself, maybe if I could play with some people who know what they are doing and know that I don't I cold break though one and done slump I'm in.
shpankey
not an idiot
GOHN,
I would suggest, at first, to try unranked servers, suppression with infinite respawns until you get a good feel of the game. This will allow you to continually play and better your skills. No way should you jump right in to elimination with no respawns... it takes too long to get a good feel for the game for most people. Hell, I still play that way a lot. There's a lot of servers that say stuff like "new players" or "newbz" etc that are a good starting point.
I would suggest, at first, to try unranked servers, suppression with infinite respawns until you get a good feel of the game. This will allow you to continually play and better your skills. No way should you jump right in to elimination with no respawns... it takes too long to get a good feel for the game for most people. Hell, I still play that way a lot.
There's a lot of servers that say stuff like "new players" or "newbz" etc that are a good starting point.I agree with shpankey, at this point you haven't played the game enough to know the map, or how to shoot, or how to effectively take cover. Spend some time in infinite "newbz only" or "respawn fun" rooms and be slow about it. Walk around the maps, let others charge in front of you, and learn to shoot by shooting the guy that shoots your teammate. After you learn the maps and how to shoot, go to the ranked no respawn rooms where the focus will switch to communication in order to win.
shpankey
not an idiot
Ya, definitely don't give up on it though. Think of it this way, if everyone could just jump in and rock, there'd hardly be any skill to it. This is where the game gives you that incredibly rich satisfaction, b/c of the times you failed and how skilled it can be
(and therefore difficult at first), when you do pull off a run of 5 kill, finish off the other team and get a MVP, it's a truely awesome, awesome feeling.
In a way, in order for a game to give you that high high, it has to have a period where you have low's too.
(and therefore difficult at first), when you do pull off a run of 5 kill, finish off the other team and get a MVP, it's a truely awesome, awesome feeling.
In a way, in order for a game to give you that high high, it has to have a period where you have low's too.
Oh man.
Seth Luisi just posted on socom.com release notes for the 1.30 patch that came out on Friday.
The previous post was from Abigale, acknowledging the problems.
Poor old Seth could have at least included an opening paragraph on the status of those problems, but instead, comes off looking like the right hand doesnt know what the left is doing. Except Seth is supposed to be the brain. Or pinky. Whatever.
Seth Luisi just posted on socom.com release notes for the 1.30 patch that came out on Friday.
The previous post was from Abigale, acknowledging the problems.
Poor old Seth could have at least included an opening paragraph on the status of those problems, but instead, comes off looking like the right hand doesnt know what the left is doing. Except Seth is supposed to be the brain. Or pinky. Whatever.
CartridgeBlower
Member
Did the 1.30 patch do more harm than good?
I've been waiting to get back into this game until after the patch because I hate the lobby system. But now I'm hearing things about Quick Match not working and added lag. Can someone spill some details? Is it worth jumping back into now that 1.3 has been posted and does it make a difference in any way?
I've been waiting to get back into this game until after the patch because I hate the lobby system. But now I'm hearing things about Quick Match not working and added lag. Can someone spill some details? Is it worth jumping back into now that 1.3 has been posted and does it make a difference in any way?
CartridgeBlower
Member
Man, this game...I dunno.
Just played it for the first time after the 1.3 patch.
Basically, the quick match option is worthless. I sat there time and time again all by myself. Great job on that one. Really.
Lag was still there, games were jumpy.
And the thing that topped it all off, which made me finally realize I'm done with this game/unfinished beta is when we start a new round and I'm already dead because a player on my team knifed me.
So much fun.
Just played it for the first time after the 1.3 patch.
Basically, the quick match option is worthless. I sat there time and time again all by myself. Great job on that one. Really.
Lag was still there, games were jumpy.
And the thing that topped it all off, which made me finally realize I'm done with this game/unfinished beta is when we start a new round and I'm already dead because a player on my team knifed me.
So much fun.
Kingsora
Would rather have no penis than have to show his to a medical professional
In the last 10 hours I played I almost had zero lag, everyone is just bitching about the smallest things, just because they like bitching on Slant Six
a couple of comments that really annoyed me on socom.com
The SOCOM cummunity really dissapoints me
a couple of comments that really annoyed me on socom.com
Loading times are 10 seconds and were even longer in SOCOM 2, glitches? SOCOM 2 had hundreds of glitches, Confrontation maybe 5? Lag? I played 10 hours and maybe had 5 seconds of lag total since the new patch
Is this guy playing another game than me? I have a rank, my stats are perfect, i don't have lag...
He is right, what a terrible problem...
So, first everyone was complaining about this, now that it is fixed, they want the old back?? Say what?
Yes, you can, you just have to die...
This guy apparently has never played SOCOM before...
The SOCOM cummunity really dissapoints me
shpankey
not an idiot
It's not just the socom community but gamers are this way in general. Refusal to change or adapt. Gears 2, Resistance 2, WaW, this game, they all have their detractors who basically bitch it's not the same game they had online before.
This game has issues that pop-up, some more annoying than others... most are no big deal and seem minor to me in the overall scheme. No doubt they will be fixed, but people like hyperbole on the internet so this stuff gets blown out of proportion. My guess is, people do this thinking it will have an impact on the game. Perhaps trying to get the developers to fix it and fix it faster by going to the extreme.
In the end, is it fun? Hell yes it is. It is in fact addicting. That's all I want from a game.
This game has issues that pop-up, some more annoying than others... most are no big deal and seem minor to me in the overall scheme. No doubt they will be fixed, but people like hyperbole on the internet so this stuff gets blown out of proportion. My guess is, people do this thinking it will have an impact on the game. Perhaps trying to get the developers to fix it and fix it faster by going to the extreme.
In the end, is it fun? Hell yes it is. It is in fact addicting. That's all I want from a game.
I believe there is concensus on that.CartridgeBlower said:
I'm not saying there aren't laggy games, but either you are getting into really crappy rooms, or possibly the problem is on your end. I got into 2 crappy rooms last night out of maybe 4 that I entered, with the 4th room being the one I was in without problem for 3 hours. One of the rooms was initially very laggy but sorted itself out after 3 rounds or so on the first map.
I played COD4 HC SnD for 20 minutes last night, 2nd match had a dumbass with an RPG T/K'ing the whole team. At least in SOCOM, you can vote the guy out.
Also wanted to mention some people prefer the controller layout where the run button is the same as the knife attack, so everytime they start running they swipe their knife. I see 2-3 accidental spawn knifings a night.
There is a easy way to test your connection, Resistance 2.Q-bert said:
I have a lousy 1MB internet connection and i leave on a forgotten country and i never experienced serious lag on Resistance 2 (Even with 60 players!)
If R2 is laggy ,then is your connection.
Fersis said:
Actually, I would have thought the opposite. i.e. SOCOM is a good test for your connection lagification, because (I think it's obvious to everybody) the quality of the software is not that great.
I have two guys on my list who can play COD4/WaW with only occasional problems, but for SOCOM they are constantly lagging around the map and have frequent disconnects.
In other words, if you can play SOCOM lag free, COD/R2 are a walk in the park.
Broadbandito
Member
I admit that my socom experience has been better than it used to be, but the game still feels off. Wish it had a smoother framerate.
have you guys seen these vids? they are pretty funny: http://www.myspace.com/socomisdead
How many of his problems were fixed in the most recent patch?
How many of his problems were fixed in the most recent patch?
TheGOHN said:
I used to think exactly the same thing. However COD is not without it's own quirks.
Yes, you can probably go by yourself into a HC S&D game faster than navigating the Select Channel screen in SOCOM.
But if you're trying to play with a small group (4-6) people,
a. getting them all in the party takes some time
b. getting the party into a game takes some time.
c. getting into a game that plays to completion is not guaranteed.
I went back on COD4 for about 20min the other night, and just getting into the first game that played to completion (not "Host Ended Game") must have taken 5 minutes or more (so-and-so can't get in this party, go to his. oops couldnt get into his. OK we're all in a party find a game. "game full" error, remake party. ok we're in a game. oops so-and-so didn't make it, back out.) Having played it nightly for over a year, you kind of forget those things.
I havent played R2 enough to say if it has a comparable set of issues.
I dont care who does it or how it happens, but I would REALLY REALLY REALLY like some uniformity on PS3 games as far as matchmaking and party systems go. Everybody re-inventing these wheels, I don't think is working out too well.
edit: Rainbow 6 Vegas 1/2 quite possibly may have been the worst of this bunch as far as game finding and map loading screens go. I remember moving from R6V1 to COD4 when it came out and thinking "I can't believe how fast this is!" (finding a game, that is)
Q-bert,
Your right, but I have to say (and I know I'm gonna get eaten alive for this but.....) the game play Ive seen in SOCOM just isn't worth all the trouble Ive had with it. That said, I will admit I am a bigger fan of FPS, I find my own head distracting, in the way, and pointless. That, on top of the lag and many other issues make it hard for me to enjoy the game.
I would like to point out that I try very hard to enjoy third person shooters.
I have ARMY of TWO and SOCOM.
Your right, but I have to say (and I know I'm gonna get eaten alive for this but.....) the game play Ive seen in SOCOM just isn't worth all the trouble Ive had with it. That said, I will admit I am a bigger fan of FPS, I find my own head distracting, in the way, and pointless. That, on top of the lag and many other issues make it hard for me to enjoy the game.
I would like to point out that I try very hard to enjoy third person shooters.
I have ARMY of TWO and SOCOM.
Q-bert said:
I was in the beta. I didn't really like it, I got MGS4 ( I forgot to put that in my list ) and i love the MGS games, but I didn't think it worked well for online mutiplayer. Thats just me tho. Maybe I just need to accept that I don't like third person shooters and move on.
Please don't think I'm just one who likes every FPS game just cuz I cant play 3rdPS's and no matter what you say to me i will always argue that a FPS is better, for example HAZE was dog crap, UT3 was just not my style, and i didn't like R2 . I love Splinter Cell ( not online) and I spent a lot of time playing SOCOM 2 ( also not online) and loved it.
TheGOHN said:
The main gameplay change to Confrontation is that the on foot movements are so-much-slower than any of the previous games in the series. Strafing and or turning are almost non-existent in straight up one on one shootouts. People will of course dispute this, but I think it's obvious, and only exists to justify the run button.
The slower movements mixed in with the camera going screwy when you're near or around walls or objects, and yes--absolutely, your head can hinder your view. And then of course you have to also factor in the constant two second pauses, which people will also dispute.
GQman2121 said:
Movement is slower, but it's not "so much" slower. If you think you're moving, running, strafing slowly, then you're probably overloaded and overweight. The weight mechanics to Confrontation makes a big difference. It effects every movement ability you have. Sure, having some heavy armor may be nice to prevent yourself from dying super fast, but it will also prevent you from strafing and walking at a good pace. Plus, all those "lucky" headshots will still kill you in 1 shot regardless of the armor you have on.
You're complaining about not being able to strafe and turn in a gunfight, but I completely disagree with you here. In fact, people complain about being able to strafe TOO MUCH in firefights, having to rely on spraying and praying for a "lucky" headshot or body kill. Again, if you think you can't strafe or turn well, then you've probably got too much shit on your character.