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UK: Ultra Street Fighter II outsold Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite first week in the UK
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Candescence
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I wouldn't be surprised if Ike Perlmutter (the guy in charge of Marvel's non-film divisions) was directly responsible for many of the game's issues - the man has a vendetta against Fox and is an infamous penny-pincher. Disney tore away control of Marvel Studios away from him because nobody there wanted to work with him.
Correct.
A lot of posters on GAF don't realize the cultural shift in the early to mid 00s and further cemented by social media dominated by American companies.
Tldr: If it looks Japanese, it's going to be niche rather than mainstream. There are very few to nil exceptions.
This doesn't mean MvCI isn't a shit product that failed to even get their own fanbase onboard.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Tbf major fighters don't open all that much more in Japan these days (40k ish range). ARMS is literally the biggest fighter over there outside of smash currently.
Someone mentioned this in another thread, but SFV had great presentation but shit modes/content, and MvC:I has the opposite.
You can fix that, but you can't fix bad word of mouth and people simply ceasing to care when you make poor first impressions or, worse, your game becomes a meme.
In terms of modes, MvC:I is absolutely not lacking. Has one of the best tutorial modes out there too IMO.
Sound is something we probably don't cite enough, but yeah, that's a huge contributing factor to the game's lackluster presentation.
The game didn't have character tutorial videos come out until the days before an after launch, staggered.
No individual character trailers, they were lumped together, destroying what was one of the most hype marketing cycles for MvC3.
The roster leaked, people didn't need like it.
They failed to communicate big features like online training mode were in the game until people found out themselves.
They fixed Chun-Li etc., but didn't communicate it poorly. The funny Ono thing barely made news, which was sort of an appropriate way to handle it, but it was underreported.
It's a colossal disaster for what is a pretty good package all things considered.
Art is better but TvC has some awful looking stages and textures.
If only MvCI could have had cel shading. That would have helped a lot.
Not in the UK. It was a full price release
Sammy Samusu
Member
Switch always wins.
You:
Vs the guy she tells you not to worry about:
Injustice 2 puts Infinite to shame.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
USF2 was a cash grab among st cash grabs. That the latest instalment of a moor franchise got outsold by that is no minor level of incompetence.
Punished_Snake
Member
So UK = the entire world now
lol gaf at least wait for US numbers, marvel is a US game.
lol gaf at least wait for US numbers, marvel is a US game.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Well, looking at it, it can't be too much of a loss for them.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I haven't followed the game's development. But considering it was developed by Capcom, who half assed SFV, I'm thinking the blame largely lies with them.
What exactly did Marvel do to the game?
...That's also true of Street Fighter.
Well you also have instagram, snapchat and the like which are the much bigger factor here. Imagine all those Chun Li images making the rounds.
I think this really had a negative impact on sales.
Becoming a meme and all.
frankie_baby
Member
It was officially 40 quid and generally available for 35, not exactly full price
Candescence
Member
Agreed, cel shading would have improved the visuals significantly. The reveal trailer not having cel shading was absolutely baffling to me, it made all the characters look strange, like the devs forgot to turn it on.
And we know UE4 can do cel shading just fine, even at a basic level, nevermind amazing shit like Arc's custom solution for DB FighterZ. I don't get it.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Eh, the art carries it a lot better than you would expect. TvsC has pretty damn good modeling too. Stages are a mixed bag. I still largely think it's a more visually appealing game if yoh clean up some of the stuff the inherent Wii sfuff.
Infinite just looks like dog shit in stills. The second they did the reveal I had no clue wtf they were smoking design wise. It looks worse than UMVC3
But MvCI wasn't outsourced though?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I guess I can stop hoping for a new Dark Stalkers.
Marvel said no X-Men to a franchise that started with X-Men vs. Street Fighter, and told them to deliver a complete game with a full story mode on the budget of one of Injustice 2's trailers.
Vital Tundra
Member
Capcom damaged their brand with how poor SF5 was at launch and how bad early impressions of Marvel were.
Also Capcom silk wont give a shit about Switch instead of at least getting on the ground floor with remasters.
Also Capcom silk wont give a shit about Switch instead of at least getting on the ground floor with remasters.
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Saint Titanfall
I'm sure the budget is on Capcom.
sechsterangriff
Member
Who needs sales when you have e-sports?
Correct. Marvel puts zero funding into the games. That's up to the publishers.
This is also why EA has an exclusive Disney license, as EA was willing to actually spend money and use high profile developers if they got one, unlike pitches from other publishers.
It doesn't look great either.
Werent the art assets done by like 5-6 different studios?
Yup. Two game collections with nostalgic NES games, and a Zelda-like artistic adventure with touchscreen-friendly functionality that all completely bypass a device perfectly suited to them? Jesus Capcom.
morthbound
Member
Can somebody shop that Spongebob "i don't need it" picture with Capcom as Spongebob and the the glass of water as the Switch?
They should have just made another SFvsMarvel as that way they might have had more recent Characters on their side.
Because Capcom aint been one for hit new franchises lately.
I watched a buddy go through the Mission Mode. Unless I missed something there was no substantial tutorial. There a set that just goes over movement, basic attacks and the stones Infinity Surge and Infinity Storm. The character specific missions are just combo trials.
Its a really poor tutorial mode, honestly. Xrd, KI, and Original Skullgirls still have a way better tutorial.
And when compared to the market leader - NRS - Capcoms games are sorely in need of single player content. It amazes me that they havent yet realized their games need a repeatable single player mode a la MKX and Injustice 2.
TRUE ORDER
Member
After all the wrong decisions made for the game, this isn't a surprise.
Jawmuncher
Member
Riiight.
This is nonsense.
Seem to be jumping into every Infinite thread., and yes it is ugly.
USFII is the ultimate nastalgia trip. Being on the switch just made importu multiplayer a blast. Both kids and adults love it. And being part of the luanch lineup, it has zero completion in he fighting games department. Those reasons may help explain why it sold.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Restricted the roster, leaving out anything they don't own the movie license to (X-Men, FF). Which is unfortunate because Doom, Mag-fucking-neto, Sentinel, Wolverine, Storm, Cable, Phoenix etc are all iconic MVC characters
Obliterator
Member
Correct
Might just be GAME then. They're claiming RRP was £59.99