either hope, or brimstone.duk said:what's everyone smoking in here?
which is why i mentioned in my first post (or one of the first), 5m+ while lacking software is no way a disaster, especially if you look at the systems strong, yes strong, 2008-9 lineup...plagiarize said:in terms of software, to date, it's worse... but that's a different argument.
duk said:what's everyone smoking in here?
and i'll tell you again...rakka said:which is why i mentioned in my first post (or one of the first), 5m+ while lacking software is no way a disaster, especially if you look at the systems strong, yes strong, 2008-9 lineup...
titiklabingapat said:Damn, bishop is merciless in this thread.:lol
Norse said:does the IPO for the insurance arm of Sony count as income? Overall not bad numbers cept for the playstation portion. And what about the selling of the cell chip lines to toshiba? Those in here? If both of my questions are answered with a yes, does that change the outlook a bit?
Segata Sanshiro said:The MNG series is comparable if not larger than MGS in Japan. I know MGS is considered a big gun, and politically I will concede that it is, but it's not on the level of FFXIII or GT5. We honestly don't know what those two games will do because they are by leaps and measures the biggest weapons in the Sony arsenal. MGS4, as far as Japan is concerned, will be another MNG. Which isn't a bad thing, per se, but it's important to know its place in the scheme of things.
plagiarize said:i'm not saying it's a disaster.
siamesedreamer said:Maybe not worldwide, but in the US I don't see how it can be classified any other way.
siamesedreamer said:Maybe not worldwide, but in the US I don't see how it can be classified any other way.
StevieP said:I'd say you're looking closer to the N64... or maybe you should look closer to the Cube/XBox level of sales if these trends continue.
Manmademan said:I'd disagree for a couple of reasons. The N64 was crippled by a lack of third party games. Entire GENRES were totally absent on the N64. It had a strong first year with Mario 64 and the odd game like Zelda and Goldeneye but it was a downhill slide after that. The Ps3 has no lack of third party games. Third parties games are in plentiful supply on the Ps3.
The Xbox1 sold great here, and was universally ignored overseas. If Japan and the EU actually paid attention to the thing, it would have stomped the cube easily. As it was it was doing Great in one territory, and shit everywhere else. The Ps3 has Good EU sales, potentially good US sales (assuming sales pick up on the price drop) and potentially good JP sales once the games the japanese actually care about start showing up on the system.
JP sales are slow now, but with the Xbox nonexistent over there, Gamers who want to play Biohazard, DMC, etc will pick one up. Plus, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear WILL move systems.
The Gamecube looked like a purple kids toy, down to the handle. The Ps3 is much sexier.
it will outperform both the Xbox and GC. Hell, the PSP is obliterating GC and Xbox sales. The PS3 will do just fine.
JP sales are slow now, but with the Xbox nonexistent over there, Gamers who want to play Biohazard, DMC, etc will pick one up. Plus, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear WILL move systems.
DCharlie said:It really is all about FF and GT5 right now.
I believe it is 5.39 million, sold to retail, not consumers.womfalcs3 said:I don't see where it says 5.6 million consoles sold, but if that's the number, it's definitely above my expectations.
Manmademan said:it will outperform both the Xbox and GC. Hell, the PSP is obliterating GC and Xbox sales. The PS3 will do just fine.
Manmademan said:That's because you lack perspective. the Ps3 isnt anywhere NEAR "disaster" class.
Manmademan said:That's because you lack perspective. the Ps3 isnt anywhere NEAR "disaster" class.
The master system was a "disaster" here.
The Jaguar was a "disaster" here.
The 3DO was a "disaster."
The CDI was a "disaster."
The Virtual Boy was a "disaster."
Umm, the post-DS, On-Its-Deathbead GBA?AstroLad said:Very good points. It's even outselling the GBA at this point isn't it? Some people on here are on crack, don't mind them.
Well March update on website was several weeks after the financial reports were issued. Could be web updates are just delayed.Joshua said:They've stopped updating the production shipments, though. They only go to March.
The Abominable Snowman said:Umm, the post-DS, On-Its-Deathbead GBA?
oo Kosma oo said:This is true.
The PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe and Japan, despite the lower price , bigger library and a year headstart of the 360.
The consumer has spoken.
That's something to be proud of?siamesedreamer said:Yeah, that GBA. You must have missed some of this year's NPD threads. The GBA has outsold the PS3 2 or 3 times this year.
Manmademan said:It has amazingly solid hardware (especially for a SCE product)
Manmademan said:I'd disagree for a couple of reasons. The N64 was crippled by a lack of third party games. Entire GENRES were totally absent on the N64. It had a strong first year with Mario 64 and the odd game like Zelda and Goldeneye but it was a downhill slide after that. The Ps3 has no lack of third party games. Third parties games are in plentiful supply on the Ps3.
The Xbox1 sold great here, and was universally ignored overseas. If Japan and the EU actually paid attention to the thing, it would have stomped the cube easily. As it was it was doing Great in one territory, and shit everywhere else. The Ps3 has Good EU sales, potentially good US sales (assuming sales pick up on the price drop) and potentially good JP sales once the games the japanese actually care about start showing up on the system.
JP sales are slow now, but with the Xbox nonexistent over there, Gamers who want to play Biohazard, DMC, etc will pick one up. Plus, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear WILL move systems.
The Gamecube looked like a purple kids toy, down to the handle. The Ps3 is much sexier.
it will outperform both the Xbox and GC. Hell, the PSP is obliterating GC and Xbox sales. The PS3 will do just fine.
Manmademan said:I'd disagree for a couple of reasons. The N64 was crippled by a lack of third party games. Entire GENRES were totally absent on the N64. It had a strong first year with Mario 64 and the odd game like Zelda and Goldeneye but it was a downhill slide after that. The Ps3 has no lack of third party games. Third parties games are in plentiful supply on the Ps3.
The Xbox1 sold great here, and was universally ignored overseas. If Japan and the EU actually paid attention to the thing, it would have stomped the cube easily. As it was it was doing Great in one territory, and shit everywhere else. The Ps3 has Good EU sales, potentially good US sales (assuming sales pick up on the price drop) and potentially good JP sales once the games the japanese actually care about start showing up on the system.
JP sales are slow now, but with the Xbox nonexistent over there, Gamers who want to play Biohazard, DMC, etc will pick one up. Plus, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear WILL move systems.
The Gamecube looked like a purple kids toy, down to the handle. The Ps3 is much sexier.
it will outperform both the Xbox and GC. Hell, the PSP is obliterating GC and Xbox sales. The PS3 will do just fine.
TOKYO, Oct 27 (Reuters) - Sony Corp (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) said the operating margin at its electronics operations is expected to beat its target for the year to March, but operating loss at its videogame unit will likely be double its initial forecast. Operating loss at its game unit, which offers loss-making PlayStation 3 game gear, is estimated to exceed 100 billion yen
Probably just because of the extra hit they've had to take from their current price drops and having to wipe the value off all the stock that's currently out there.titiklabingapat said:Sony reported today that they expect to double the forecasted losses for thier gaming division: http://uk.reuters.com/article/techn...edType=RSS&feedName=technology-media-telco-SP
$300 PS3 for MGS4?
Well, given they're losing money on every PS3 sold, it could mean they are going to sell more PS3 than originally expected.titiklabingapat said:Sony reported today that they expect to double the forecasted losses for thier gaming division: http://uk.reuters.com/article/techn...edType=RSS&feedName=technology-media-telco-SP
$300 PS3 for MGS4?
The Tokyo-based company will be able to reduce production costs for its PlayStation 3 game console by one- third next year by cutting the size of the graphics chip and shrinking the core ``Cell'' processor, Oneda said in the report, without provide figures.
Depends what Toshiba decides to charge them for the privilege. :lolElios83 said:This suggests that they still aren't using 65nm chips in current PS3s and they can reduce their costs by 1/3 next year switching to 65nm Cell and RSX.
Manmademan said:The Xbox1 sold great here, and was universally ignored overseas. If Japan and the EU actually paid attention to the thing, it would have stomped the cube easily. As it was it was doing Great in one territory, and shit everywhere else. The Ps3 has Good EU sales, potentially good US sales (assuming sales pick up on the price drop) and potentially good JP sales once the games the japanese actually care about start showing up on the system.
Son of Godzilla said:The Xbox sold well in non japanese asian territories. Yes, all one of them.
Diablos said:Considering they just announced the $400 SKU, I don't think you are going to see a $300 PS3 anytime soon.
Sony's losing a lot of money on the PS3.
Elios83 said:This suggests that they still aren't using 65nm chips in current PS3s and they can reduce their costs by 1/3 next year switching to 65nm Cell and RSX.
Yes, but sony already lost a billion on that.. Are they willing to lose another one?legend166 said:We thought that about the $400 PS3, and here we are, a couple months after the $500 PS3.
tanod said:Cell production is already 65nm. They just started putting it into the PS3 with the 40GB model (probably). 2009 is the year that 45nm chipsets start getting mass-produced.
beermonkey@tehbias said:The only way we'll see a $300 PS3 at MGS4 launch is if PS3 gets beat hard by 360 this Christmas. IMO.
siamesedreamer said:It'll end up losing 50%+ of its marketshare in the US. That's a Grade A certified disaster.