Septimus Prime
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Which season turned reapers into stupid fucking angels? That was so ass.
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Supernatural Season 12 |OT| Mama, I'm Coming Home
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BoxManLocke
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Season 9. Yeah that was some stupid shit.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Season 9 was just okay, but was a huge letdown after the awesome back half of season 8.
Still better than season 7.
Still better than season 7.
DarkHeartedKill
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I thought the blade was just useless without the mark, not the other way around too? The blade worked because of The Mark but the bearer of the mark was still powerful and unkillable because of The Darkness.
I hate season 10 mainly because of snuffing out a cool element which was Deamon, and Charlie's death. I actually sorta liked Cole, he brought a little flavour and was and interesting character. I'm still curious to what creature his "dad" was, it was not touched upon to what it was just that Dean never saw another one like it...
Dean was probably not mega evil as a demon because of the amount of good still in him. Demons are created after being in hell for so long that their humanity is basically stripped away and they lose all good qualities. Dean was a demon for a short time and had he been a demon longer maybe he would have succumbed to darker tendencies. But alas they fucked that storyline up.
I hate season 10 mainly because of snuffing out a cool element which was Deamon, and Charlie's death. I actually sorta liked Cole, he brought a little flavour and was and interesting character. I'm still curious to what creature his "dad" was, it was not touched upon to what it was just that Dean never saw another one like it...
Dean was probably not mega evil as a demon because of the amount of good still in him. Demons are created after being in hell for so long that their humanity is basically stripped away and they lose all good qualities. Dean was a demon for a short time and had he been a demon longer maybe he would have succumbed to darker tendencies. But alas they fucked that storyline up.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Them botching stuff in seasons 9 and 10 is what lead them to the greatness of season 11 in my mind. They realized they cut things too short, and kept the drama quotient too high, so just said "fuck it" and dropped the secrets and fake drama. Season 11 was so refreshing after years of that bullshit. It is like they stopped giving a shit about Tumblr and the shippers and just made them brothers and told a good story.
Septimus Prime
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Yeah, I agree. We all hate the way Carver killed off basically every semi-regular character, but execution aside, it was probably good in the long run, since we didn't have to deal with or think about them anymore.
But boy, was that execution sloppy. Season 9 also killed off Tess, who we'd already forgotten about, and brought back Gabriel but made him suck.
And then they also had that backdoor pilot about the monster clans. It's to date the only episode of Supernatural I couldn't sit through.
BoxManLocke
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I don't really remember any moment in seasons 9 or 10 when Dean was super powerful without the blade until it disappeared after episode 1014. Then he started hulking up for no reason, killing vampire nests all by himself and shit even though he could never do that back when the blade was in play.
Cole was mostly unimportant but he was yet another Dean-related guest-star and I never got why they wouldn't go through with his story.
What I liked about season 11 is that it didn't just get rid of the drama, it brought back a balance between how each brother is treated. We got more episodes focused on Sam and more characters that gave a shit about it. Previous seasons were ridiculously Dean centric.
Lots of good stuff happened in season 11, but I'd tend to credit Dabb for most of it as Carver left before then end and it's not clear how much of a role he had throughout the season.
I still think the second half of the season was vastly inferior to the first, and Lucifer in Castiel's vessel was a dreadful idea.
PhoncipleBone
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It wasn't dreadful to the bottom line. The cost savings of using an actor already on contract!
BoxManLocke
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That's one way to see it.
I do think it hurt Lucifer's reputation though. Funny Lucifer wans't my cup of tea and Misha just wasn't doing a good job portraying him.
I do think it hurt Lucifer's reputation though. Funny Lucifer wans't my cup of tea and Misha just wasn't doing a good job portraying him.
DarkHeartedKill
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I think the more Dean killed the more the mark got fed and thus the stronger he got. That seems like the only logical explanation. That season was full of terrible writing so it could just be that. But let's pretend it's because the mark getting fed made him more powerful 
FTFY
Freddy=Legend
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C'mon, don't take out Claire.
dead souls
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Given this show's horrible treatment of its female characters I was pretty worried. I'm glad they didn't off her.
DarkHeartedKill
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I felt the same way. I was like welp, at least the show is consistent. Then everything worked out and good feelings all around.
I'm worried about Garth now, really wish Dean didn't say his name. Could have just left it at they have a friend that's a werewolf. I forgot that Ketch killed physic girl, I actually liked his character...now I hate him again.
Septimus Prime
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Jodie's girls are always safe. But yeah, the show definitely did have problems with offing younger female characters. I'm hoping the new showrunners fix that.
Also, to be fair, Claire is too young to be in danger. I always figured the girls had to be in the age range where they could feasibly hook up with Sam or Dean, as well as be CW attractive.
Also, to be fair, Claire is too young to be in danger. I always figured the girls had to be in the age range where they could feasibly hook up with Sam or Dean, as well as be CW attractive.
BlueSnowboarder
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Glad someone else missed Cas, I actually thought for a sec that at the end she was calling him and not Jodie, woulda been a nice twist
BoxManLocke
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I don't really mind that he wasn't there for a Claire episode.
The problem is that he's barely there as it is. Just like Mary is absent for increasingly long stretches of episodes despite being the most interesting thing about this season.
Until the writers allow them to come back, it's just the brothers going through the motions every week and my interest has dwindled as a result. The season is definitely consistent in its quality, much more than Carver's era, but there's something missing. I feel like Sam and Dean are barely involved, psychologically.
This episode was bland. "I can make my own decisions." gets bitten 10 seconds later.
Find potential werewolf cure. No biggie.
Seriously, you could've done stuff with the plot of this episode but instead we get a really stale execution. A nice two-parter could've done this justice.
Find potential werewolf cure. No biggie.
Seriously, you could've done stuff with the plot of this episode but instead we get a really stale execution. A nice two-parter could've done this justice.
BoxManLocke
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This episode is everything that's wrong with season 12.
We're supposed to care about these two storylines despite the writers giving us no reason to give a shit.
The brothers and Mary are merely supporting characters. Castiel is not there.
Honestly this looks more like a spin-off than anything else right now.
We're supposed to care about these two storylines despite the writers giving us no reason to give a shit.
The brothers and Mary are merely supporting characters. Castiel is not there.
Honestly this looks more like a spin-off than anything else right now.
if the british men of letters were smart theyd let her go. killing one of the allies of the brothers? theyre liable to take down the whole organization. heaven help them if they go after mama winchester
DarkHeartedKill
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Mick...no goddamn fuckasscuntshitsticle! I liked him, ketch you cuntshit! Not deaf girls fault the princess of hell disappeared right before the bullet struck. And that stupid idiot woman "I'm 100% okay with birthing a nephilim that belongs to Lucifer, no biggie!". Also, since when did demons have x-ray vision? Was that always a thing?
Just watched the last two episodes. Supernatural is killing it since the winter break.
I've talked about it before but the show feels fresh. I love that they seem to be focusing on a larger cast at times. I love that they brought Eileen back and hopefully she's around for a bit.
Really disappointed they killed off Mick though. Jesus, enough of that. They built him into a really good character and then killed him. Stop. Stoooop.
I've talked about it before but the show feels fresh. I love that they seem to be focusing on a larger cast at times. I love that they brought Eileen back and hopefully she's around for a bit.
Really disappointed they killed off Mick though. Jesus, enough of that. They built him into a really good character and then killed him. Stop. Stoooop.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Aw they killed mike right after he looked like he was actually going to be a character lmao, I hope Eileen makes it through the end of the season.
I hope mary dies though.
I hope mary dies though.
cartoon_soldier
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I liked Mick
damn
damn
Yea, the writers sent Eileen to Ireland to keep her safe. I hope anyway.
Septimus Prime
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Dammit, British Malcolm Merlyn! He was your friend!
Undead Fantasy
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Just as I was beginning to like Mick LOL.
Fail.
Fail.
The Silver
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Henricksen all over again, killed right when I start to like them, smfh.
Miles Quaritch
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We've seen a nephilim on screen before right? It's hard to keep track of what creatures we've seen on screen sometimes...
Still no real direction this season and that's worrying with the show already 17 episodes in. We know the nephilim is in play, the MoL have turned on the brothers, Cas is MIA, Lucy is back and slowly regaining control of his body and Mary is getting her bang on...
All of it seems to random and lacking in a clear direction. I suspect it'll come together with the final few episodes, but the season so far has been very weird in how aimless it's all been.
Still no real direction this season and that's worrying with the show already 17 episodes in. We know the nephilim is in play, the MoL have turned on the brothers, Cas is MIA, Lucy is back and slowly regaining control of his body and Mary is getting her bang on...
All of it seems to random and lacking in a clear direction. I suspect it'll come together with the final few episodes, but the season so far has been very weird in how aimless it's all been.
BreezyLimbo
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Yup, killed by Cas and Metatron for her heart in order to lock out Heaven.
A Nephalem fathered by Lucifer though..
Miles Quaritch
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I cracked up hard.
The Salt Life
Banned
Going to have to disagree there, he pulled off a pretty good mark Pellegrino with the mannerisms.
Something that Rick Springfield guy definitely did not.
If they want to kill her, they better give her an amazing death scene, like
Jericho
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Hey wait I just realized something.
Dagon said "birthing nephililm, always fatal" isn't that either a load of bullshit or a massive retcon? We even had an episode this season where cas persecuted the wrong angel for potentially birthing a nephilm, shouldn't they have all been like "wait why is the wife alive?" if that was the case?
Or am I remembering something wrong?
Ehhh given how no one really seems to give a shit about mary I doubt it'd be much of moping. It'd be mostly sam being sad and dean being like "'she died 25 years ago"
Dagon said "birthing nephililm, always fatal" isn't that either a load of bullshit or a massive retcon? We even had an episode this season where cas persecuted the wrong angel for potentially birthing a nephilm, shouldn't they have all been like "wait why is the wife alive?" if that was the case?
Or am I remembering something wrong?
Ehhh given how no one really seems to give a shit about mary I doubt it'd be much of moping. It'd be mostly sam being sad and dean being like "'she died 25 years ago"
If Castiel knew, this entire thing could have been prevented really easy. Baby momma would probably have been really easy to convince to get an abortion if Castiel told her she would die.
Wait...British Men of Letters want her dead, and they send her to IRELAND?!
Fair point. But all of their focus does seem to be on America right now, maybe they won't look so close to home.
You don't get attached to characters that aren't Winchesters. Everyone is expendable
DarkHeartedKill
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Their bloopers are the best lol.
I hate you. I hate you so much. I didn't see it now I do. Did I mention that I hate you?
I don't think they knew it was fatal but since Daegon maybe saw a nehpilim be born before she knew?
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