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Street Fighter V PS4 has frame drops on some stages, issues with PS3 sticks
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Whether they fix it matters to the probable majority of tournament organizers. Not every group/community is gonna be able to afford/gather up capable PCs.
Is there a video that shows the frame drops or can anybody with the game already record one. I would like to see what we're dealing with.
Also, it's a shame about the ps3 latency issues. I feared this might be the case so I preordered the te2+ (as well as any future fighters that do not support legacy sticks)
Also, it's a shame about the ps3 latency issues. I feared this might be the case so I preordered the te2+ (as well as any future fighters that do not support legacy sticks)
CrispyBoar
Banned
I agree. I get tired of seeing people playing that same stage over & over during both games. It should be banned from tournaments altogether.
sixteen-bit
Member
does CPT run random stage select?
Time for Capcom to book him an air ticket.
Cindi Mayweather
Member
Why is there no option to turn the dumb npc's in stages off? They ruin the stages anyways.
CrispyBoar
Banned
If I remember correctly, Namco took away all NPC's for Tekken Tag Tournament 2 when entering online mode in order for online play to run very smooth with less lag.
Some of the stages in Story mode have alt version with no NPC's.
I would love for an option to turn 'em off though.
sixteen-bit
Member
Capcom's call, as it's a CPT event. If you recall they briefly switched back to 360 when the ps4 version of Ultra SF4 wasn't looking too hot.
that's too pricey. matches will just be done in training room. Less distraction anyways.
Duxxy3
Member
That was more of a push by event directors than anything else. The PS4 version at the time was a downgrade from the 360 version in almost every way. It was later patched.
Hi, I've been running 2 set ups with the game since Thursday. The frame drops seem to pop after a decent amount of time spent on the game. You can get it to happen more on certain stages though, and Bison kills the game p easily.
Also PS3 stick lag seems to vary from stick to stick. We went through multiple sticks at the arcade and it def is weird how different they can end up through the emulation.
Also there are a couple on GAF that help run large scale events like myself and Curly. I'm pretty sure he'll agree with me there is no place in logistics hell for an event to be run on PC with how we do things atm. The PS4 ver needs to be fixed.
Also PS3 stick lag seems to vary from stick to stick. We went through multiple sticks at the arcade and it def is weird how different they can end up through the emulation.
Also there are a couple on GAF that help run large scale events like myself and Curly. I'm pretty sure he'll agree with me there is no place in logistics hell for an event to be run on PC with how we do things atm. The PS4 ver needs to be fixed.
sixteen-bit
Member
No. Closest is a replay theater where you can follow players and download their past matches.
If the PS4 version drops frames I would argue it is a mess.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It's amazing how they ended up with the same training stage as SFIV, what bad luck. It just so happened that this is the case somehow.
Thanks.
But you *CAN* sit in a lobby and watch others fight when you're not playing like in the previous game....*RIGHT*?
I'm playing on PC, and I'm getting CONSTANT and lengthy frame drops. Sometimes lasting for entire matches. I'm literally playing Street Fighter in slow-motion. Sometimes the matches run perfectly, but then another match loads up and it's a total shit show. >_<
I thought it was a hardware problem, but my settings should be fine to play it.
I thought it was a hardware problem, but my settings should be fine to play it.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Frame drops and input lag in a beat em up...sounds like a mess.
how bout we all first upload some clips instead of creating unnecessary posts that state a game is a mess already when it was just released and there hasn't been video clips of the stated matter so we can determine how much of a supposed "mess" this is.
I bet a patch would easily fix this all. And I bet some of the people posting were never going to buy the game anyways...
I bet a patch would easily fix this all. And I bet some of the people posting were never going to buy the game anyways...
Diprosalic
Banned
yup, experienced those frame drops a couple of times. nothing major. like 3-4 times a long 5h session but this needs to be fixed ASAP
edit: maybe we never played much with the chars that trigger them.
edit: maybe we never played much with the chars that trigger them.
So one stage drops frames. I, for one, am shocked that a Capcom fighter shipped with a stage that has frame drops.*
*I don't understand how this is a surprise to anyone.
***The Lab Zero driver implementation thing is kind of crappy though, but it also seems like it was added at the 11th hour. It'll probably be improved.
*I don't understand how this is a surprise to anyone.
***The Lab Zero driver implementation thing is kind of crappy though, but it also seems like it was added at the 11th hour. It'll probably be improved.
I would go to record it but the set up is at our arcade, not at my house where I am orz.
I can assure they are real but it's far from mess status, but def enough for tournament players to worry about picking the right stage if that helps out.
I'm willing to bet it just turns into SF4 where it's like "Please don't pick Volcano Stage" and people tend to pick the same couple of "safe" stages. If picking a diff stage can't solve the problem that is really not great though :T
Has less to do with Sony and a lot more to do with TOs can't afford PCs, and running a large scale event on PC is your worst nightmare.
Training Room is reported to have frame-drops too. This isn't a backgrounds problem.
I'm optimistic that it'll be patched by the end of the week.
They can easily do it for, as an example, Capcom Cup where it's only a 32-man invitational. But they won't.
And I'd argue it's more a case of TO's knowing very little about PC's more so than the difficulty. Valle's gonna run it for WNF's.
Collateral22
Member
USFIV on PS4 ended up being the best console version after a week or two of patches anyway. Sad that games don't ship in a proper state anymore but this is what this setup has allowed them to do nowadays. There was crazy hyperbole on here though that the PS4 version was completely unfixable, unplayable and all that. Was nowhere near that bad.
oh yeah, Capcom ...
Wasn't a week or two, more like months before that port was halfway respectable.
Wasn't a week or two, more like months before that port was halfway respectable.
Trust me, I've been around and TOs aren't dumb like that (we tend to be dumb in other ways). The money you need to get the set ups that all run the game identically is too much. The time to get everybody to sit down and plug in and configure their stick is too much, especially when you know driver issues will happen. The down time to troubleshoot anything or replace broken equipment is also much higher. For these brackets with hundreds of people over a couple days, it can't happen atm.
Valle runs super small scale events and even they have trouble with this shit and get made fun of all the time. This Wednesday will b einteresting since it's the first large scale one he's doing.
For a 32 man bracket like CapCup yeah it could be pulled off, but then you'd be running finals on a different version than what was played the entire tour which is kinda sketch.
As a purely casual player who isn't particularly sensitive to frame drops as it is, do I even have any reason to worry? I have no deep knowledge of frame data to screw up, and I'm not likely to be winning many matches anyway... and at least now I have an excuse when I lose (it was the framerate, I swear!)
I don't doubt that Capcom will get right on fixing the framerate issues for the PS4. My main concern is if Capcom will call up Mike Z to sort out the Lab Zero Driver issues (namely the lag, but I hope they sort out the DS4-reqirement issue).
Capcom not going to lower themselves to some filthy gaijin.
People literally said it would take a year to fix. GAF hyperbole can be a bit much.
That said This issue does need to be fixed because something like this happening in a tournament just can't happen.
But reading some of these posts you'd think this shit is happening for the duration of the match.
They should, Street Fighter is ©CAPCOM U.S.A. after all.
Collateral22
Member
It really wasn't. June 11th, patch 1.03 iirc had it within .2ms frame lag than the 360 version which was the tournament standard version. This was the biggest issue with the game when it launched.
Costs issues aside, the driver issues in Valle's SF4 events were mainly a result of trying to use PS3 sticks which aren't plug-n-play like xbox ones are. That's pretty much all it came down to. If they had banned that sub-set of sticks it would have ran as smoothly as when on 360. He obviously learned, though, as he's restricted to xbox controllers for SF5 until dinput support drops. There's a lot of small form factor PC's so replacements can be made easy, too.
Cost is really the limiting factor but I'd argue it's worth it for consistent performance and faster loading times. You can get far lower input lag set up on both SF4 and SF5 then you can on PS4. Obviously, it's the TO's decision but if it were up to me I'd prioritize quality of experience over all.
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