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2011-2012 TV Show Cancellation Thread - CSI Miami just got *takes off shades* canned
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I'm very hyped for The Following.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The upfronts will have sizzle reels or previews from the pilots too (how useful those will be will depend if the shows are recasting)
Cool. Looking forward to it.
Cool. I remember watching trailers last year, but wasn't following TV stuff as heavily as now.
Makes sense. This season has been pretty lackluster. They can use these last 13 episodes to go out with some grace.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Makes sense. This season was awful and the ratings tanked.
Short of Steve Carell coming back, it's over.
dead souls
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And after the 13 episodes are done they can launch Joey, er, the Dwight farm spinoff that is going to bomb.
Conflict NZ
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Absolutely gutted Awake was cancelled, by far my favourite new show of this season.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
So, with all the renewal/cancellation decisions I care about already made and upfronts starting today, I'm officially ready to reflect on 2011-2012 in network television
ABC
Apt 23 - A - Easy chemistry between two lead women, delightfully sinister performance by Ritter, good interplay with the secondary characters, Van Der Beek's character is a surprising success. Terrible title, I don't know why they didn't either pick "Don't Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23" or "Apartment 23" instead of half-assing it
GCB - C - Dud, never as fun or soapy as Desperate Housewives was. Oh how hard it is to be rich.
Missing - C - European tourist commercial meets Taken snooze.
Suburgatory - A - Probably not as smart as Easy A, Mean Girls, or even Clueless, but smart enough often enough to be a compelling satire of the burbs, the rich, and their neuroses. Strong leads. Alicia Silverstone's arc has been iffy, and some of the more emotional notes don't hit.
Pan Am - A - I'm not sure what it is I see that others didn't. I found all of the characters to be very well developed, each representing different parts of the 60s psyche. A love-letter to (pop) history and to the world and to the humanist vision of the Jet Age and the collapse of borders and differences. Well filmed, strong cast.
Revenge - B - Also one of the stronger dramas this season, and definitely the right balance of soap, camp, romance, and drama. Well cast. Maybe a little too clever and winky about its own mythology, and suspension of disbelief is an issue. I'm very disappointed that the murder shown in the opening scenes of the pilot ends up being a bit of a bait-and-switch, and even more disappointed that the show was renewed. Would have been a great miniseries. I liked CBS' Harper's Island, so the "murder/revenge-of-the-week" procedural element is something that I liked there and here.
Once Upon a Time - C - Squandered premise, maybe skews too female for me?
Charlie's Angels - F - The original sucked, it didn't need a remake, and the remake it got was awful.
Man Up - C - I took this to be a Lite, Network version of "The League"'s non-sports elements. Certainly not dreadful. But we didn't get enough of it before it was cancelled to show any growth or potential.
Work It - F - Stopped 9 minutes into the pilot. Lacks all the charm of Bosom Buddies, seems to be written and acted by people who don't understand the gender issues at play. Some of it just seems hateful to women, and not in an ignorant lumberjack kind of way, but a really conniving way.
Scandal - B - Kerry Washington is great. I like the serial plot. Maybe a little overbearing, the secondary cast are basically tools for the narrative rather than actual people.
Last Man Standing - F - More power *ruff ruff* WOMEN! Can't a MAN be a MAN?
NBC
Playboy Club - C - Massive failure to live up to premise. Terrible virtual sets. Really bizarre tonal shifts in the few episodes that aired. Seemed to misunderstand how the smug egotism of the characters depicted by Mad Men is not a license to make everyone selfish jerks. Heffner's character and voice-over are too wink-wink.
Grimm - F - Remember when CBS aired Moonlight, a vampire crime drama? Most people don't. It sucked and it was cancelled near immediately. Same here.
Prime Suspect - B - Never seen the UK original, only caught the first two episodes of the US version here. Maria Bello is strong, and I liked the graphic brutality in the pilot that suggested a gritty approach to cop work. They might have overplayed the boy's club angle a bit.
Whitney - F - Poster child for what people claim all multicam sitcoms are like.
Free Agents - C - Core conceit wouldn't have lasted more than half a season, but I liked some of the quirky office interactions which reminded me a little bit of maybe a more grounded Better Off Ted. Liked the glimpses we saw at the secondary characters.
Smash - C - Both musically and dramatically better than Glee, indulged itself a bit too much in the back half of the season (cheating, love triangles, who gives a shit about any of the characters). Worst virtual sets I've ever seen, although I don't watch SyFy originals.
Are You There Chelsea - F - I have no problem with TV depicting trashy, low class, rough around the edges, no-collar types... but at some point there needs to be a moment where you understand how they became who they are or why they are the way they are or you need to see their own twisted values or something. This is a show about a trashy shitheel doing trashy shit.
Bent - C - Benign.
Awake - A - After Pan Am, the strongest new drama of the season for me. I'm not quite caught up. Great performances from all involved and very well balanced between its primary cast and secondary characters. I still have a few objections to its premise, but I guess either they'll be answered by the finale or they won't--and I'd always prefer a show that swings for the fences and misses than an easy bunt.
Up All Night - B - Felt like Maya Rudolph only worked when Jason Lee was on the show. I think the show's treatment of masculinity in Arnett's character was strong, and I felt like many of the early parenthood issues dealt with were pretty cogent and not really handled on any other show recently. Don't really understand why it was renewed, they basically exhausted all of the material I can think of.
BFF - B - Strong connection between the three leads but dumb premise that they hopefully would have found a way to jettison quickly.
The Firm - C - Thrillless thriller. It tries for pathos but doesn't get there.
FOX
Alcatraz - C - Terrible cast, balance between procedural elements and mythological elements not quite right. Had room to grow.
Allen Gregory - C - Odd tone, very modern, maybe better suited as a web short cartoon?
I Hate My Teenage Daughter - F - Unambitious pandering to morons
Napoleon Dynamite - F - Unambitious pandering to morons
New Girl - C - Cloying, but probably the closest any show has come to capturing the upper-middle class Friends vibe by my rights. I hope no one watches this and feels like any of the characters are admirable, because their behaviours are embarrassing at best.
Terra Nova - C - Snooze.
Touch - C - Based on the pilot. I think Kiefer does a good job of showing that he cares about and understands his son--which reminds me of what actual parents of severely autistic kids do; they have this complex set of esoteric rules for maintaining the delicate peace. Don't say this word, don't do this thing, he doesn't like this or that, you can't bring that near him. Nothing else really interested me, and the cell phone travelling around the world was stupid and did not seem to show any actual understanding or cultural authenticity. The plot was meh.
CBS
Unforgettable - F - Original title was "The Rememberer". I think that speaks for how stupid the premise is and how stupid a level the show operates at.
Person of Interest - B - Jesus plays a better blank-slate badass warrior than most, there are some neat surveillance society aspects. Ben Linus plays his role well although the character itself is pretty unbelievable.
How to Be a Gentleman - C - Who was the audience for this? People like Kevin Dillon to laugh at the main character, or people like the main character to laugh at Kevin Dillon? I doubt either groups would have. If anything, I think the most interesting thing about the show is that it shows just how stupid and un-lifelike Barney Stinson's character on How I Met Your Mother is.
2 Broke Girls - C - Needs to learn crop rotation so it doesn't end up destroying what little arable land it has. Vaginas, hipsters, we're broke. Except they're not really broke, are they? Secondary characters are obnoxious and offensive caricatures. Interplay between two leads is good, but every episode does the same "OMG they're too different to be a good team -> OMG they learned to appreciate each others differences" thing.
A Gifted Man - C - World renowned brain surgeon has to google "Hallucinations". Scene where protagonist dramatically types in computer password one character at a time. I don't understand how anyone older than 75 years old or above 75 IQ points could be stimulated by this.
NYC 22 - C - Some threads work, some don't, none work as well as The Shield or The Wire.
CW
Hart of Dixie - F - Don't give a shit.
The Secret Circle - C - Hey, it's every book ever made for teenage females.
Ringer - C - Competing with General Hospital on the believability scale.
Didn't watch:
The River
The Finder
Think that's every scripted show on networks, right?
ABC
Apt 23 - A - Easy chemistry between two lead women, delightfully sinister performance by Ritter, good interplay with the secondary characters, Van Der Beek's character is a surprising success. Terrible title, I don't know why they didn't either pick "Don't Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23" or "Apartment 23" instead of half-assing it
GCB - C - Dud, never as fun or soapy as Desperate Housewives was. Oh how hard it is to be rich.
Missing - C - European tourist commercial meets Taken snooze.
Suburgatory - A - Probably not as smart as Easy A, Mean Girls, or even Clueless, but smart enough often enough to be a compelling satire of the burbs, the rich, and their neuroses. Strong leads. Alicia Silverstone's arc has been iffy, and some of the more emotional notes don't hit.
Pan Am - A - I'm not sure what it is I see that others didn't. I found all of the characters to be very well developed, each representing different parts of the 60s psyche. A love-letter to (pop) history and to the world and to the humanist vision of the Jet Age and the collapse of borders and differences. Well filmed, strong cast.
Revenge - B - Also one of the stronger dramas this season, and definitely the right balance of soap, camp, romance, and drama. Well cast. Maybe a little too clever and winky about its own mythology, and suspension of disbelief is an issue. I'm very disappointed that the murder shown in the opening scenes of the pilot ends up being a bit of a bait-and-switch, and even more disappointed that the show was renewed. Would have been a great miniseries. I liked CBS' Harper's Island, so the "murder/revenge-of-the-week" procedural element is something that I liked there and here.
Once Upon a Time - C - Squandered premise, maybe skews too female for me?
Charlie's Angels - F - The original sucked, it didn't need a remake, and the remake it got was awful.
Man Up - C - I took this to be a Lite, Network version of "The League"'s non-sports elements. Certainly not dreadful. But we didn't get enough of it before it was cancelled to show any growth or potential.
Work It - F - Stopped 9 minutes into the pilot. Lacks all the charm of Bosom Buddies, seems to be written and acted by people who don't understand the gender issues at play. Some of it just seems hateful to women, and not in an ignorant lumberjack kind of way, but a really conniving way.
Scandal - B - Kerry Washington is great. I like the serial plot. Maybe a little overbearing, the secondary cast are basically tools for the narrative rather than actual people.
Last Man Standing - F - More power *ruff ruff* WOMEN! Can't a MAN be a MAN?
NBC
Playboy Club - C - Massive failure to live up to premise. Terrible virtual sets. Really bizarre tonal shifts in the few episodes that aired. Seemed to misunderstand how the smug egotism of the characters depicted by Mad Men is not a license to make everyone selfish jerks. Heffner's character and voice-over are too wink-wink.
Grimm - F - Remember when CBS aired Moonlight, a vampire crime drama? Most people don't. It sucked and it was cancelled near immediately. Same here.
Prime Suspect - B - Never seen the UK original, only caught the first two episodes of the US version here. Maria Bello is strong, and I liked the graphic brutality in the pilot that suggested a gritty approach to cop work. They might have overplayed the boy's club angle a bit.
Whitney - F - Poster child for what people claim all multicam sitcoms are like.
Free Agents - C - Core conceit wouldn't have lasted more than half a season, but I liked some of the quirky office interactions which reminded me a little bit of maybe a more grounded Better Off Ted. Liked the glimpses we saw at the secondary characters.
Smash - C - Both musically and dramatically better than Glee, indulged itself a bit too much in the back half of the season (cheating, love triangles, who gives a shit about any of the characters). Worst virtual sets I've ever seen, although I don't watch SyFy originals.
Are You There Chelsea - F - I have no problem with TV depicting trashy, low class, rough around the edges, no-collar types... but at some point there needs to be a moment where you understand how they became who they are or why they are the way they are or you need to see their own twisted values or something. This is a show about a trashy shitheel doing trashy shit.
Bent - C - Benign.
Awake - A - After Pan Am, the strongest new drama of the season for me. I'm not quite caught up. Great performances from all involved and very well balanced between its primary cast and secondary characters. I still have a few objections to its premise, but I guess either they'll be answered by the finale or they won't--and I'd always prefer a show that swings for the fences and misses than an easy bunt.
Up All Night - B - Felt like Maya Rudolph only worked when Jason Lee was on the show. I think the show's treatment of masculinity in Arnett's character was strong, and I felt like many of the early parenthood issues dealt with were pretty cogent and not really handled on any other show recently. Don't really understand why it was renewed, they basically exhausted all of the material I can think of.
BFF - B - Strong connection between the three leads but dumb premise that they hopefully would have found a way to jettison quickly.
The Firm - C - Thrillless thriller. It tries for pathos but doesn't get there.
FOX
Alcatraz - C - Terrible cast, balance between procedural elements and mythological elements not quite right. Had room to grow.
Allen Gregory - C - Odd tone, very modern, maybe better suited as a web short cartoon?
I Hate My Teenage Daughter - F - Unambitious pandering to morons
Napoleon Dynamite - F - Unambitious pandering to morons
New Girl - C - Cloying, but probably the closest any show has come to capturing the upper-middle class Friends vibe by my rights. I hope no one watches this and feels like any of the characters are admirable, because their behaviours are embarrassing at best.
Terra Nova - C - Snooze.
Touch - C - Based on the pilot. I think Kiefer does a good job of showing that he cares about and understands his son--which reminds me of what actual parents of severely autistic kids do; they have this complex set of esoteric rules for maintaining the delicate peace. Don't say this word, don't do this thing, he doesn't like this or that, you can't bring that near him. Nothing else really interested me, and the cell phone travelling around the world was stupid and did not seem to show any actual understanding or cultural authenticity. The plot was meh.
CBS
Unforgettable - F - Original title was "The Rememberer". I think that speaks for how stupid the premise is and how stupid a level the show operates at.
Person of Interest - B - Jesus plays a better blank-slate badass warrior than most, there are some neat surveillance society aspects. Ben Linus plays his role well although the character itself is pretty unbelievable.
How to Be a Gentleman - C - Who was the audience for this? People like Kevin Dillon to laugh at the main character, or people like the main character to laugh at Kevin Dillon? I doubt either groups would have. If anything, I think the most interesting thing about the show is that it shows just how stupid and un-lifelike Barney Stinson's character on How I Met Your Mother is.
2 Broke Girls - C - Needs to learn crop rotation so it doesn't end up destroying what little arable land it has. Vaginas, hipsters, we're broke. Except they're not really broke, are they? Secondary characters are obnoxious and offensive caricatures. Interplay between two leads is good, but every episode does the same "OMG they're too different to be a good team -> OMG they learned to appreciate each others differences" thing.
A Gifted Man - C - World renowned brain surgeon has to google "Hallucinations". Scene where protagonist dramatically types in computer password one character at a time. I don't understand how anyone older than 75 years old or above 75 IQ points could be stimulated by this.
NYC 22 - C - Some threads work, some don't, none work as well as The Shield or The Wire.
CW
Hart of Dixie - F - Don't give a shit.
The Secret Circle - C - Hey, it's every book ever made for teenage females.
Ringer - C - Competing with General Hospital on the believability scale.
Didn't watch:
The River
The Finder
Think that's every scripted show on networks, right?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Now do cable and foreign shows
(I do plan to get back to you on your PM, but it's been a busy weekend around the house. I've had most of that last post half-written for a while now)
September-Now (HBO's Web Therapy, FX's Wilfred were summer shows last year):
HBO
Enlightened - A - Spoke well to the search for a secular spirituality, emptiness, loneliness, unspeakable anger about the cruelty of the world, and the paralyzing inability to affect change. One of my favourite books ever is "Life After God" by Douglas Coupland, which is basically a story that reflects on the social, personal, and psychological implications of growing up in secular modernity, and Enlightened reminded me of it so. The too-clean set of the IT dungeon the main character works in combined the optimistic hyper-cleanliness of the future world of technology with the bleak skulduggery of corporate prisons.
Girls - A - Raw and personal, strong authorial vision, authentically modern. I like how Dunham's character has the mindset and auspices of middle class descent but the reality of 21st century underemployment. The characters still seem to live in a sort of self-propelled fantasy world with no real responsibility, but the big distinction is that in Sex and the City or other shows like it, that fantasy world is a creation of the show, whereas this show is situated firmly in reality but the characters persist in their fantasy. I'm not sure if I explained that well. Looking forward to see how it goes.
Life's Too Short - C - Only saw the pilot, simultaneously less clever than Extras and more convinced that it's clever.
Veep - B - Strong so far, well cast, and its most piss-taking elements remind me of some of the best humour done on The West Wing's run, but obviously written as a comedy instead of as a comic relief in a drama.
Angry Boys - B - Doesn't live up to Summer Heights High, which is one of my favourite foreign comedies ever. Still funny, but not as poignant.
Luck - Hadn't watched it, if it ever gets DVDs or if they go cheap I'll double back to it.
Showtime
Homeland - A with reservations - The show as a whole is an easy A. Wonderful production, world-class acting, a gripping plot with effective and relatively sensible twists, use of red herrings without the immense letdown of something like the Killing, and personally I think it's a fairly good depiction of mental health issues throughout the series run. I've heard Mandy Patinkin is a professional but a prick in person, and it comes through in his character here as well. I have a few little nitpicks about Brody's motivations, but basically I felt like I accepted the show's conceits throughout. BUT I think the finale was intellectually gutless and poorly justified within the show. On a personal level, the ending scene of the finale with
Danes' character undergoing electroshock therapy
House of Lies - B - I actually thought the show picked up a good deal in the back half. I thought the son's gender/sexuality issues were done with surprise tact for a show that otherwise revels in its own tactlessness. I like how profoundly damaged Kristen Bell's character is. Even the special effects improved over the run of the season.
FX
American Horror Story - C - The pilot seemed pretty stupid to me. Not sexy enough to have a horror sexploitation angle, not scary enough to be good horror, not smart enough to be worth watching further. Based on everything I've heard about the rest of the series, it'd be a good candidate for an F if I watched it.
Unsupervised - Haven't seen it, can't imagine I'd like it.
AMC
Hell on Wheels - Haven't seen it.
Starz
Boss - A - I'm very much surprised that this was as poorly received as it was. Reviews focused on how terribly unbelievable Grammer's abuse and cruelty was. I took it as being almost Shakespearian--this is a man who is motivated solely by survival and self-preservation--and we see the spectacular and melodramatic way that it propels him through the year and the sacrifices he makes. Evoked The Old Man and the Sea or Moby Dick for me. The final outcome of the finale and the identity of the mole also stretches belief, but again it works in the sense of a Shakespearian tragedy. The nudity and sex was gratuitous (as it always is on cable), but always felt like it was driven by the unrestrained dominance of hormones over logic, which is authentic to reality. I feel like some of the characters have the sex they have and then immediately think "Boy, that was a bad idea". Man walks into rake again, repeat. Some of the commentary on ethnic identity politics was fairly unique for TV as a medium, and I like the way that big city politics start approaching state/national politics in the way blocs align.
Magic City - B - Only watched the pilot. Like Pan Am, the explicit interweaving of real political history with fiction works well here. Characters seem bland as of the pilot, but I'm looking forward to JDM get deeper and deeper underwater until he drowns. The setting is spectacular, probably the best period piece I've seen since Little House on the Prairie.
Other US
USA hasn't debuted anything, I haven't seen Netflix's Lilyhammer yet, or Cinemax's Strike Back (I have no idea how I could watch it in Canada even if I wanted to).
Canada - CBC
Mr. D - C - A brand of mainland Canadian humour that is very common and I've never understood.
Michael Tuesdays and Thursdays - B - Has a neurotic, almost Jewish-New-York humour quality about it. The colourization on the show seems almost sickly and off and I can't tell if that's for effect or because it's too low budget to correct it. The therapist's plot is less interesting than Michael's.
InSecurity - F - This may have premiered last summer, I actually caught it on Netflix after the fact. This is basically a TV show that's a cross between Alias, 24, and the video game No One Lives Forever. It does not work. Suffers from Cheap Canadianitis.
Arctic Air - Haven't seen it yet.
Canada - CTV
The LA Complex - Haven't seen it yet, I suspect I'd give it an F. This also airs on CW in the US.
Canada - "Action", which is a TV station that something like 50,000 people watch at a given time and only exists because of idiosyncrasies in our national broadcasting rules.
The Drunk and On Drugs Happy Fun Time Hour - C? F? A? - If it's avant-garde, I'm not avant-garde enough to get it. It's basically a show where the guys who play The Trailer Park Boys play parody versions of themselves and get very stoned and wander around doing stupid shit.
Canada - Showcase
Single White Spenny - C - The Spenny half of Kenny vs. Spenny gets his own show and it doesn't work.
Canada - Comedy
Picnicface - Haven't seen it yet.
UK - ITV
Penn and Teller Fool Us - A - Excellent performance, very little filler crap, exactly the kind of way a reality performance show should work. I would like to see the magicians who do fool P&T show how they did it, but that's a pipe dream. Piff the Magic Dragon was probably my favourite act.
Titanic - Haven't seen it yet, plan to watch it sometime this summer. I'm sure the next time I visit the Titanic exhibit at the GeoCentre I'll feel motivated to track it down. Hopefully it'll be on Blu-ray or Netflix by then.
Don't think I've seen anything else foreign this season.
I....can't believe you actually did cable/foreign too. Some interesting other stuff from outside the US that I've seen (I haven't the time to rate all new shows that I've seen, and I couldn't be as eloquent regardless)
Inside Men (BBC One) - I've mentioned this already. Solid miniseries most of the way through looking at the robbery of a security depot from the perspectives of three different people involved. The ending was very disappointing though, so not the most enthusiastic recommendation, but worth seeing still.
Great Expectations (BBC One) - Three part miniseries based on the Dickens work. Not the best adaptation, not the worst. There were a few odd casting choices though. I enjoyed it, but it's by no means a must-see.
World's Most Dangerous Roads (BBC Two) - Three part series that has pairs of (British) celebrities exploring some of the most dangerous roads in the world. The chemistry between the celebrities is probably the best part of it, some solid choices they made in who to invite here. I enjoyed all episodes (Alaska, Nepal, Peru), and I'm hoping they'll do a second series.
Nederland van Boven (VPRO/Netherlands 1) - Ten part series about the modern Netherlands using mostly beautifully shot footage from up above. Episodes range from how everything in this country was built by man to how we spend our free time.
There was other good new stuff on TV here as well, but I see no benefit to listing it here.
Inside Men (BBC One) - I've mentioned this already. Solid miniseries most of the way through looking at the robbery of a security depot from the perspectives of three different people involved. The ending was very disappointing though, so not the most enthusiastic recommendation, but worth seeing still.
Great Expectations (BBC One) - Three part miniseries based on the Dickens work. Not the best adaptation, not the worst. There were a few odd casting choices though. I enjoyed it, but it's by no means a must-see.
World's Most Dangerous Roads (BBC Two) - Three part series that has pairs of (British) celebrities exploring some of the most dangerous roads in the world. The chemistry between the celebrities is probably the best part of it, some solid choices they made in who to invite here. I enjoyed all episodes (Alaska, Nepal, Peru), and I'm hoping they'll do a second series.
Nederland van Boven (VPRO/Netherlands 1) - Ten part series about the modern Netherlands using mostly beautifully shot footage from up above. Episodes range from how everything in this country was built by man to how we spend our free time.
There was other good new stuff on TV here as well, but I see no benefit to listing it here
.Too bad you guys completely glossed over Strike Back: Project Dawn (well it's on Cinemax, admittedly), a show with more well-made action than the entirety of 24, Hawaii Five-0 and the last 5 years of American action cinema combined.
EDIT: Now realize Stumpokapow actually didn't. Sorry! Well worth seeking out though!
EDIT: Now realize Stumpokapow actually didn't. Sorry! Well worth seeking out though!
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
CSI Miami cancelled? Shit.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Rob, NYC 22 both cancelled as well.
CSI: NY Renewed
So the only remaining decisions:
Rules of Engagement
Bob's Burgers (apparently to be decided later)
Napoleon Dynamite (apparently to be decided later)
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Stumpokapow - Have you seen Endgame, the cancelled Canadian show about an agoraphobic chess grandmaster detective? Hulu might be funding a second season.
Gary Whitta
Member
Fuck they canceled Miami but kept NY? Nooooooooooo
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
To be fair to Grimm, I only watched the pilot. But as you can tell, I watch and like a lot of TV, so if something really doesn't click with me, I'm not likely to give it a second chance
I guess you could say the ratings...*takes shades of*...killed it.
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
And this season of CSI Miami is already over too, so no finale? =(
I guess dropping from 16+ million to 10 million viewers per episode was drastic enough to warrant the cancellation. You'd think they'd try to do something to win back viewers though as CSI is such a huge money maker for them.
I guess dropping from 16+ million to 10 million viewers per episode was drastic enough to warrant the cancellation. You'd think they'd try to do something to win back viewers though as CSI is such a huge money maker for them.
Hot Coldman
Banned
edit: never mind, didn't realise it was all new stuff
So, yeah, Community on Fridays.
With Whitney.
Sort of funny, in a gallows humor style.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
One less shitty CSI being advertised on TV.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I think it airs on HBOCanada. It's a really fun series that's sort of a throwback to old school action movies. You might like it if you're into that sort of thing.
Otherwise, really great write ups!
CSI NY and Blue Bloods, Friday night is conservative night.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Oh shit... BB has to stay around, it's one of the only shows I try and keep up with.
dead souls
Member
I like how they're saving Smash for midseason. Maybe they think people will forget how awful this season was by next winter.
I can't believe that NBC didn't rethink Thursday. Remember when NBC used to get good numbers that night? And now a third of their programming on one of the most valuable nights in television will be Rock Center, along with a bunch of comedies that are already doing terribly there.
The disintegration of NBC is constant source of amusement to me.
So for shows that got renewed for 13 episodes this season, does that mean that it's their final season, or could 13 become 22, or could they get a 13 or 22 episode order for another season if this one goes well? I'm just confused cause I don't really remember there being a time where shows have been renewed for 13 episodes when it hasn't been a final season.
I could be wrong though.
Edit:
Answered before I posted.
I could be wrong though.
Edit:
Answered before I posted.
At the rate The Transporter series is coming along it's never going to hit TV. They've been shooting that thing for years now =/
I wouldn't be surprised to see Napoleon Dynamite cancelled as well, as Fox does have some animated pilots in the wing. (At least one we know of from Adam Carolla)
Lastly, Celebrity Apprentice? Again? Why not regular Apprentice? =(
I wouldn't be surprised to see Napoleon Dynamite cancelled as well, as Fox does have some animated pilots in the wing. (At least one we know of from Adam Carolla)
Lastly, Celebrity Apprentice? Again? Why not regular Apprentice? =(
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Yeah, that is interesting. I thought I read somewhere that season 2 was being fast tracked for August to premiere after the Olympics (with the rest of their new shows), but I guess they decided against it.
Hot Coldman
Banned
World's greatest comedy, both on and off the screen
I think part of the problem is that they don't have anything to launch a new Thursday with. Maybe they're hoping Revolution takes off and they can move it to Thursdays at mid season?
I'm mostly surprised they're tossing all their returning comedies out there this fall--they perform poorly, but at least they're a known quantity in case something else tanks.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
IGN tv podcast said the main 3 stars contracts have all been renewed, and rainn's was renewed last season. Speculation the short season will just build into the dwight spin off.
Incendiary
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All my favorite shows have been/were previously shoved to Friday. Chuck, Fringe, Supernatural....now Community, and on top of that I like Grimm too. I wonder what the other networks will put there.
Friday is honestly my busiest night of TV now.
RatskyWatsky
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There was other good new stuff on TV here as well, but I see no benefit to listing it here
I'm curious. :3
You know what? Fuck you, Greenblatt. You had seen the entirety of Awake and Smash and you still went with Smash at Mondays at 10, a show that would be getting in the low 1s without a Voice lead-in. And yet the show you thought needed help was the one that turned out to be the worst drama that NBC launched this year (outside of The Firm).
Two more then
Van Dis in Indonesië - A famous Dutch author of Dutch-Indonesian origin goes to Indonesia to explore the country, how it's changed and to examine the major role it's played in his life. It's a personal and fascinating look at a country that has meant so much to Dutch history, yet is little known and understood by most people here today.
Het Snelle Geld (The Fast Money) - A light hearted yet informative series about 'fast money' in the past twenty-five years. While very light hearted, the undertone is one of increasing greed. Of people making money doing nothing or doing things that hurt the economy, whilst the decline of industry continues. In the different episodes they interview different people who were involved in that stage of it all. Like in the most recent episode they talk about the failed IPO of internet provider World Online, where everyone lost money, including all the employees of World Online who had received a great many shares, except for then CEO Nina Brink, who had sold off just prior to the IPO.
Scripted TV in the Netherlands is extremely weak. Series produced are often low quality, feature poor acting, worse writing, have unimaginative premises and have incredibly low budgets. This despite the fact that while it's only a country of 16 million, programs like Farmer Wants a Wife prove (5.4 million viewers for the finale last year) that it's possible to captivate such a large part of the audience that quality programming should be possible. There are some high quality documentary/current affairs shows that have been running for years though. I'm thinking mainly of these:
Tegenlicht (Backlight) - Shows one hour documentaries about major issues in the world today, has a relatively international focus. The broadcaster, VPRO, puts some of the episodes on its international youtube channel with subtitles or even dubs. They are definitely worth checking out.
Andere Tijden (Other Times) - History documentary series, often focuses on the more unknown stories from history, mainly Dutch history, and especially if they have some relevancy to issues of today. Recently they aired episodes about 'healing' gays in the 1970s and the Dutch punk scene and the effects economic crisis had on it amongst other things. There's also a separate sports edition of the programme, which is also quite good, but due to its subject matter, rarely as interesting as the regular version.
Zembla - Show that focuses on investigative journalism. One of the rare few examples you will find of actual investigative journalism on TV here (I have no idea how common it still is in the United States), none of the issues are really relevant to people here, as they often concern smaller scale domestic things, but revelations made in this show often make the national media, which is a good indication of the quality of the show.
Oh, and something different:
Ik Vertrek (I'm Leaving) - A show about Dutch people who plan to emigrate abroad and start a hotel/hostel/restaurant or anything of the sort. They go through the preparations, the deliberations, talking the family into it and so on, and then finally the move and how that all works out. My favourite part of course is that it rarely goes well. Most people discover they hadn't prepared properly at all, more still discover that the local culture isn't quite what they were expecting it to be. With them not being used to greasing some palms to get things done, it's not rare to see permits being held up indefinitely for these people.
People who don't prepare are definitely my favourite. There was once this episode about theis couple who had the dream of starting a restaurant in Greece. There were however a few problems as the viewers soon realized. Neither of them spoke Greek. Neither of them spoke English. Neither of them had the money to start a business. There were greater problems still though. Neither of them knew how to cook. They showed them going on-line on the computer to look up some incredibly basic recipes. Not deterred by this however, they went ahead with their move anyway. None of it really worked out as you may imagine. They did a follow up episode about a year later. The guy was now working in a sandwich stall and had learned some rudimentary Greek, the girl was cleaning kitchens.
I know it probably makes me a bad person to laugh at misfortune like that, but I can't help but feel people deserve it when they don't prepare properly. I enjoy schadenfreude too much anyhow :X.
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