LabouredSubterfuge
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sp3000 said:
Top one is high res.
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Crysis 2 DirectX11 Tessellation Pack/High Res Texture Pack [Update: released]
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Top one is high res.
plagiarize
Banned
what i've learnt from this thread is that most of the people bitching about Crysis 2's graphics from a technical perspective don't understand this shit.
this is not directed at people like you Eat Children. you know what you are talking about and raise valid complaints. it's directed at all the spazzes complaining that the texture pack only replaces the low resolution textures and doesn't replace the high resolution ones.
if you don't know what the hell you are talking about guys, you shouldn't nitpick. you evidentally don't know nearly enough to nitpick this sort of stuff if you are complaining about the comparison that has now been posted twice.
by morons.
this is not directed at people like you Eat Children. you know what you are talking about and raise valid complaints. it's directed at all the spazzes complaining that the texture pack only replaces the low resolution textures and doesn't replace the high resolution ones.
if you don't know what the hell you are talking about guys, you shouldn't nitpick. you evidentally don't know nearly enough to nitpick this sort of stuff if you are complaining about the comparison that has now been posted twice.
by morons.
EatChildren
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plagiarize said:
Denied.
Behind the gym at lunch.
Be there.
dragonelite
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sp3000 said:After viewing those screenshots, this has to be the biggest joke of a texture pack I've seen.
Tell me guys, which is the original and which is the texture pack. Spot the difference.
edit, bahahaha I love how that grass texture that they ripped straight from Crysis 1 is still lower resolution than the one in the original game.
Decals on wall and upper right wall bricks are more crisps ?
You can clearly see it on the concrete lower right second picture is grass example.
plagiarize
Banned
but i already had my lunch.EatChildren said:
EatChildren said:
Just for comparison, here is a modder's texture pack.
Yeah, looks like he's putting more effort into this than Crytek is.
Try the pack out for yourself http://maldotex.blogspot.com/2011/06/first-version.html#more and then you can compare it to Crytek's version when it releases.
plagiarize
Banned
you are a moron.sp3000 said:
yes, i'm directly insulting you. i try not to make a habit of it... but you are complaining about something you quite clearly don't understand. at all.
he's remaking every texture in the game because he doesn't have the higher res assets that Crytek do. they don't have to remake every texture in the game because they already have the high res versions that the low res ones were made from.
if you understood that, you wouldn't make stupid posts like this.
ColonialRaptor
Member
Waikis said:
Why?
I'm not talking shit out my ass... My single 5970 ran the game at about 40 to 45 frames at 2560 before on Extreme, what's so hard to believe about two 6950's in Crossfire running it at 60+? That's not out there at all!
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The textures featuring text look massively improved, that's for sure.
plagiarize said:
We already went over how the grass texture looks worse than they're Crysis 1 version. It's clear some kind of filter has been applied to a many of the textures in an attempt to make them "sharper."
These are not the original high res assets, which are generally drawn at 4096x4096 or higher and then downsampled. No texture artists renders originals at 1024x1024. Try to learn something about how texture assets are made before you wildly insult others.
And yes, personal attacks helping your case very much. Especially when your trying so hard to defend Crytek and failing.
The sad thing is that you don't understand it. "AT ALL"
Takamura-San
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ColonialRaptor said:
I run mine on nvidia surround with 2 570s. 5670x1080. I think i'm hitting close to 50-60.
Have to run fraps to make sure.
BattleMonkey
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sp3000 said:
And? Modders made Crysis 1 look a ton better than what Crytek did too. What is the point?
plagiarize
Banned
i shouldn't expect you to be able to read.sp3000 said:
where did i say that these are the highest resolution version of these assets? i didn't. i just told you that Crytek don't have to redraw all the textures like the person making the texture pack has to, because they have the high res assets.
it isn't clear that some kind of filter has been applied to the textures, because that isn't what has happened. clearly. i challenge you to take any texture from Crysis 2 and make it look like the higher resolution assets in the texture pack with a filter. it won't.
furthermore that'd be more work to make the game look worse than it'd look just to release higher resolution versions of the textures based on the high resolution versions Crytek evidentally still have.
again, note, i am not saying they are the full resolution. i figured i'd spell it out for you, since you imagined i'd said that before. if you were imagining that i'd said it again, now you know that your brain was malfunctioning again.
the grass texture has not been improved. yes, it should have been. we know that higher resolution versions of it exist because we saw it in Crysis 1. i don't know where you'd think i didn't understand that, since i already agreed that it's a shame that that one hasn't been improved.
i'm not defending Crytek from anything but idiotic complaints from people like you.
i'm not defending them from the valid complaints people with more understanding of this are bringing up. i'm just defending them from the sort of foaming dribble that's sputtering out of your mouth, and other peoples.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Definately the biggest changes we'll see will be the reflections, shadows (penumbra + contact) and particles (shadows!!!, motion blur).
Can't wait to see video of those!
And you people are hung up on texture resolution. LOL
Can't wait to see video of those!
And you people are hung up on texture resolution. LOL
Texture resolution is a big deal. Crysis 2's textures weren't just poor by PC standards. I mean, look at this:Metroid-Squadron said:
It was such a sharp looking game outside of the terrible textures. It's not getting "hung up" as much as it is realizing and appreciating the importance of good texture work.
Metroid-Squadron
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Better textures is good. But the improvements I mentioned will have much more impact on graphical fidelity. Particularly in motion.Crunched said:
The big problem I had with Crysis 2's textures was that so much of the usable cover was just terrible looking. Not just bad, but like something out of an N64 game. Which meant seeing a lot of this:Metroid-Squadron said:
I agree that the bells and whistles improvements will allow the game to look better in motion, but what about when you aren't in motion? Which if you stop and pop, is a decent chunk of time. That's where improved textures will stand out.
It's jarring going from movement -- fluid, great-looking movement -- to smeary, muddy cover, especially when your view is focused so tightly on whatever object you're hiding behind. I would've assumed that it was those objects especially that should've been given attention.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Alxjn said:
NO BUT CRYSIS HAD THE BEST TEXTURES EVARRRR
ColonialRaptor said:
Waikis said:
Why? I just finished playing for about a hour of the SP. I have a GTX 580 @850mhz/1700mhz/2005mhz and my FPS stayed around 70 the entire time I was playing, and that is a very modest OC. This is at 1080p and Extreme settings. They just did a very good job of optimizing the engine.
Metroid-Squadron
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I don't know about others but to me, there's a difference between appreciating high resolution textures and needing them to feel satisfied.Crunched said:The big problem I had with Crysis 2's textures was that so much of the usable cover was just terrible looking. Not just bad, but like something out of an N64 game. Which meant seeing a lot of this:
I agree that the bells and whistles improvements will allow the game to look better in motion, but what about when you aren't in motion? Which if you stop and pop, is a decent chunk of time. That's where improved textures will stand out.
It's jarring going from movement -- fluid, great-looking movement -- to smeary, muddy cover, especially when your view is focused so tightly on whatever object you're hiding behind. I would've assumed that it was those objects especially that should've been given attention.
BTW, the things I mentioned will also look great in screenshots.
The Crimson Kid
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While some of the textures on smaller items in vanilla Crysis 2 weren't up to snuff, none of them were as big an immersion breaker as those horrid rocks in Crysis 1. And let's not forget the small issue of vegetation in your face when prone.
On average, Crysis 2 was more graphically consistent than the first during normal play.
On average, Crysis 2 was more graphically consistent than the first during normal play.
I wasn't satisfied with Crysis 2 on any level outside of visuals and performance. I did like the way it looked, I just thought there were areas that didn't quite match up to the rest of the package. That's speaking technically, of course. I had a big problem with the generic art direction, but that's a different thread altogether. Night levels were great, the others not so much.Metroid-Squadron said:
EatChildren
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In Crysis 2's defense, I suspect that the chosen setting resulted in a considerably wider variety of textures on display at any one time than Crysis, which I assume would use up more vram than equivilent quality textures in the original Crysis. Crysis' outdoor locations probably resulted in fewer textures, as there would have been a lot of tiling.
Its still disappointing that some identical textures in Crysis 2 are lower resolution than their Crysis counterparts, but its possible that if every texture in Crysis 2 was pushing the highest texture IQ as Crysis it would require far more VRAM as a whole.
Then again, I dont really know what I'm talking about
, and The Witcher 2 has a ton of stupid high quality textures on display at any one time.
Its still disappointing that some identical textures in Crysis 2 are lower resolution than their Crysis counterparts, but its possible that if every texture in Crysis 2 was pushing the highest texture IQ as Crysis it would require far more VRAM as a whole.
Then again, I dont really know what I'm talking about
, and The Witcher 2 has a ton of stupid high quality textures on display at any one time.Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Going by the list of improvements, it should look something like this but with much better tone mapping:
http://youtu.be/fAsg_xNzhcQ
http://youtu.be/fAsg_xNzhcQ
The Hermit
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EatChildren said:In Crysis 2's defense, I suspect that the chosen setting resulted in a considerably wider variety of textures on display at any one time than Crysis, which I assume would use up more vram than equivilent quality textures in the original Crysis. Crysis' outdoor locations probably resulted in fewer textures, as there would have been a lot of tiling.
Its still disappointing that some identical textures in Crysis 2 are lower resolution than their Crysis counterparts, but its possible that if every texture in Crysis 2 was pushing the highest texture IQ as Crysis it would require far more VRAM as a whole.
Then again, I dont really know what I'm talking about
You are a mod now?! How long has it been?
Baiano19 said:
I think today.
EatChildren said:In Crysis 2's defense, I suspect that the chosen setting resulted in a considerably wider variety of textures on display at any one time than Crysis, which I assume would use up more vram than equivilent quality textures in the original Crysis. Crysis' outdoor locations probably resulted in fewer textures, as there would have been a lot of tiling.
Its still disappointing that some identical textures in Crysis 2 are lower resolution than their Crysis counterparts, but its possible that if every texture in Crysis 2 was pushing the highest texture IQ as Crysis it would require far more VRAM as a whole.
Then again, I dont really know what I'm talking about
I'm sure there has been but has there ever been a sequel which took such a drastic step back technically? Or maybe I should say another high profile release like Crysis 2?
jim-jam bongs
Member
EatChildren said:Then again, I dont really know what I'm talking about
The Witcher 2 is a bit of an anomaly. The engine obviously has some unique ways of rendering a scene, which you can see from the funny cross-hatching artifacts the dynamic lighting system creates. Overall though, it's a really low-tech engine with a lot of attention and care put into producing the best texture clarity, post-processing and image-quality possible, rather than focusing on blowing their metaphorical load on shaders like normal-mapping.
And grats on joining the good-ship mod-ship.
Lostconfused
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Good textures are simply not appreciated in this console generation, even if one of the biggest reasons that call of duty still looks half way decent is because of some great texture work.jim-jam bongs said:
Also cheers to EatChildren on surpassing us regular joe users, guess no more trolling in mass effect 2 threads for me.
Haven't found any article on it, but just by looking at it I can see they don't re-render the scene for it. I suppose they cast rays on the scene using the depth buffer, in the same fashion as SSAO does, and sample the color at the 2D position where the ray hits (probably with some extra stuff to deal with rays that fall outside the view frustum). The difference is that the rays must travel a much larger distance than in SSAO, so DX11's better branching support might help a lot, while in DX9 the shader would need to fetch a massive amount of texture samples.markao said:
jim-jam bongs
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Lostconfused said:
The sad part is that it's usually the area where devs go for harsh 11th hour optimisation too. There aren't enough showcases of amazing texture work on consoles, games like Gears and Uncharted being notable exceptions.
flipswitch
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Should be out soon, you would think!
Takamura-San
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I checked this morning before going to work and the patch was not there.
ColonialRaptor
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Yep still not, just checked.
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Oh shit.markao said:
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Is there going to be a Steam patch. Has that been confirmed?