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[Tamanon]

NBC and MSNBC at whatever times your local area shows it. Looks like it'll be 6 PM EST on MSNBC again.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Yeah watching MTP right now. His gas tax answer is really good, hits pretty hard. His whole energy dissertation here is really good, thoughtful, expansive and deep.

I read he didn't shake Obama hand.. which he does after every one on one interview.

 

[Incognito]

I read he didn't shake Obama hand.. which he does after every one on one interview.

That's from the swamps of the Democratic Underground. Take with a thousand pounds of salt. And personally, I've never seen Russert shake hands with his guests afterwards.

 

[Particle Physicist]

these 'media conspiracies' against Obama are quite an interesting read. when is APF unbanned?

not really a media conspiracy. look back in the through the thread, people have been calling almost exactly what the media ends up doing. its almost freaky actually.

 

[Particle Physicist]

so when the networks focus on edited, truncated sound clips of Wright they are damned.

but when they decide to air an entire speech to give a fuller picture they are still damned.

Wright is in the public eye, and that was his first major appearance since the youtube clip went viral. his appearances the entire weekend seemed coordinated with the Moyers interview, so IMO it was fully justified.

explain why hagee is all but ignored by the MSM?

and before you say.. obama knew wright for 20 years. obama had to reject and denounce an unwanted endorsement from farrakhan.. mccain refused to reject hagee's endorsement, and yet the media stays silent.

 

[GhaleonEB]

explain why hagee is all but ignored by the MSM?

and before you say.. obama knew wright for 20 years. obama had to reject and denounce an unwanted endorsement from farrakhan.. mccain refused to reject hagee's endorsement, and yet the media stays silent.

And unlike Farrakhan, McCain actively sought out Hagee's endorsement and has said several times that he's glad to have it.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

And unlike Farrakhan, McCain actively sought out Hagee's endorsement and has said several times that he's glad to have it.

You've got two separate agendas against the Democrats that still holds weight in the media, hell the country on the whole.

Both Clinton and Obama would have to work hard to fight against female and black oppression.

McCain is the sole white guy in this GE.

The media will favor him unfairly because of that.

 

[Lemonz]

So is this going to get reported on? I mean they talked about this on TV for a few days. Crying saying that now Obama could hurt the dems because of J. Wright.

But now that this guy won, shouldn't that mean that J. Wright's association to Obama is not seen to be as bad as the MSM is making it out to be?

Donna Brazille just mentioned that those ads had backfired. I think that's all we're going to be hearing from MSM about this.

 

[Tamanon]

By the way, C-Span is showing a rally from Friday by Michelle Obama. She can really give an effective speech.

Plus it's nice to see that you don't have to wear a pantsuit to be considered powerful.

 

[Dan]

Starting to sound like anyone we know? Say....a current president?

I've been trying to convince friends and colleagues of this for months. Hillary Clinton's the Bush of the left. Regardless of her policy positions, 4-8 more years of this toxic rhetoric and forthright anti-intellectualism would be devastating.

 

[thekad]

Wow

You're lucky you're black

What?

 

[Funky Papa]

Did Hillary switch parties and nobody told me?

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Did Hillary switch parties and nobody told me?

She's never been much of a Dem to begin with.

 

[schuelma]

Did Hillary switch parties and nobody told me?

This shift into this rural based common woman from the factories has been so fascinating in that apparently voters recently are starting to buy it.

It's absolutely incredible.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

She's never been much of a Dem to being with.

Finally!

Now if only I'd hear this from people in the real world other then my family.

We are left of lefty420.

 

[Tamanon]

It makes no sense, especially considering her own 180 on the issue in Pennsylvania. She has been a firm proponent on strict handgun laws then suddenly switched when Obama's "cling" comments came out. Just dirty campaigning that would really hurt her in the general too.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

It makes no sense, especially considering her own 180 on the issue in Pennsylvania. She has been a firm proponent on strict handgun laws then suddenly switched when Obama's "cling" comments came out. Just dirty campaigning that would really hurt her in the general too.

Which is why she's unelectable.

One of many reasons.

It's not like there isn't many more things that will come up. Hell she's been in the public eye for a long fucking time. From what we can tell the worst Obama's past has to offer is a pastor. One hell of a pastor, one might say, but a pastor.

Clinton's dirty laundry list is huge.

 

[thekad]

"Elite opunion?" Is she really acting like she puts her faith in regular Joes off the street for sole advice on something as complex as the economy? I wish the MSM would call her out on her stupid, Bush-esque pandering, but alas, there are angry black men we must protect America's children from.

 

[Tamanon]

"Elite opunion?" Is she really acting like she puts her faith in regular Joes off the street for sole advice on something as complex as the economy? I wish the MSM would call her out on her stupid, Bush-esque pandering, but alas, there are angry black men we must protect America's children from.

CNN had a little roundtable with Blitzer where they said all 3 candidates know it's pandering and not a good idea, but Obama shouldn't oppose it because people like saving money in the short run instead of the long run.

 

[Sule]

I just learned from Late Edition on CNN International that Obama is culturally out of touch with people because he proposes a long term plan to solve the gas price problem and doesn't give people nine(?) dollars a month extra RIGHT NOW, like hillary and McCain, so that they can buy a pizza margarita or school supplies. Also, it took Wolf and his best political team on cable television ''weeks'' to find a difference in Hillary's and Obama's economic plan... the gas price thing. Gotta love it when CNN international switches over from Kristie Lu Stout to their US shows.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

"Elite opunion?" Is she really acting like she puts her faith in regular Joes off the street for sole advice on something as complex as the economy? I wish the MSM would call her out on her stupid, Bush-esque pandering, but alas, there are angry black men we must protect America's children from.

Sadly I had hope that she would be different then her past indicated, but when push came to shove, she decided to pander to the worst of American society, while Obama is trying to speak to our best.

 

[GhaleonEB]

On election day, a number of homes in Baton Rouge's predominantly black neighborhoods were phoned with a tape-recorded message asking black voters to teach white Democrats a lesson by staying home and not casting ballots.
The ad signed off as "Friends of Michael Jackson."

Jackson, a Democratic state representative defeated by Cazayoux in the primary runoff, said he was not involved or connected in any way with the calls. Jackson said he will run for the seat in November.

Heh. That'll teach'em.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/18556984.html?index=1&c=y

 

[thekad]

No wonder CNN supports Hillary; they both function under the same belief that trifling politics is more important than the future of this nation.

 

[Loudninja]

Louisville Courier-Journal Endorses Obama
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/4/6335/02750/813/508722

 

[Lemonz]

 

[Tamanon]

Good lord, what will Cheebs complain about now?

 

[XxenobladerxX]

Obama's campaign is sinking guys.

 

[Loudninja]

Good lord, what will Cheebs complain about now?

A lot

 

[Shirokun]

Holy shit! Every time I turn on the news, it literally takes less than 15 seconds before these hacks mention Rev. Wright. Why has my life turned into a scene from a sitcom every time I turn on the news?

On Fox news they just received a string of letters saying, "stop talking about Rev. Wright!". It would be funny if Fox is the first station to drop this crap(but even funnier if they kept it up:lol ).

 

[Frank the Great]

holy shit. the way obama's campaign keeps on bouncing up is remarkable.

mccain is gonna get trounced.

 

[3rdman]

It's all over...He's free falling!

 

[TDG]

:lol :lol :lol

Streams cross.

 

[XxenobladerxX]

Howard Dean owns Fox News:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/howard-dean-on-fox-news-s_n_100023.html

 

[Farmboy]

Good lord, what will Cheebs complain about now?

Give him credit: his commentary has been a lot more positive lately. Call it the audacity of hope.

 

[gcubed]

considering with all that went on, she only held a statistically significant lead over him for one day... i'll take it. He'll be up for quite a while now.

 

[Cheebs]

Good lord, what will Cheebs complain about now?

Him losing Indiana? Really not much, he'll win NC by a good amount. I'll be happy.

 

[syllogism]

Latest NC early voting numbers have black turnout at 40%, very good news even if it drops a bit on Tuesday. SurveyUSA poll had it only at 33%.

 

[Diablos]

Did Hillary switch parties and nobody told me?

That's seriously from the Clinton campaign?

I thought it was a Republican ad. Holy shit.

 

[woeds]

It's pretty clear now that Hillary is a republican politician with liberal views who happens to be a DNC member.

 

[Diablos]

It's like she's adopting populism 2.0.

 

[Frank the Great]

Latest NC early voting numbers have black turnout at 40%, very good news even if it drops a bit on Tuesday. SurveyUSA poll had it only at 33%.

thats awesome. how much did SUSA have obama winning by with a 33% black turnout?

 

[syllogism]

thats awesome. how much did SUSA have obama winning by with a 33% black turnout?

5%

e: almost 400k have voted already

 

[Particle Physicist]

CNN had a little roundtable with Blitzer where they said all 3 candidates know it's pandering and not a good idea, but Obama shouldn't oppose it because people like saving money in the short run instead of the long run.

*smacks forehead*

they were seriously defending it??!!

 

[Thunder Monkey]

*smacks forehead*

they were seriously defending it??!!

Does that shock you?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

 

[maynerd]

 

[Particle Physicist]

Does that shock you?

well.. they had previously explain why it's such a horrible idea. i posted the cnn video somewhere in this thread. so i wasnt really expecting them to do a 180.

 

[GhaleonEB]

e: almost 400k have voted already

Wow.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Mainstream media must be going nuts right about now.

bu bu bu but wright wright!!! "It's not working, american people aren't listening to our BS anymore *crying*"

 

[Funky Papa]

Politico's reader comment of the day so far

We all know where Barack stands. We all know where black people stand and why. Take your racism back to your "churches" and keep it OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

Posted By: True Patriot. | May 04, 2008 at 01:46 PM

Also, on a side note...

Excellent point: In Houston, a Texan protesting amnesty for illegal immigrants argues that anyone who can't master English doesn't deserve to live in America.

I believe that all countries should have at least one official language, but come on.