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[EatinOlives]

I personally know a bunch of Sanders supporters who, after a couple of drinks, are willing to say that they'll vote for Trump before Hillary.

Anyone who says they'd seriously do it has such a fleeting interest in politics they'll probably even forget to vote come November if Bernie doesn't get the nom.

 

[wildfire]

Fact check: As of the last Gallup poll, Socialists are the most hated people in America, even more so than atheists and Muslims:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/s...litics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

Hillary views Sanders as a non-threat since Bernie isn't even trying to win the nomination which is why she's had no negative advertising towards him which is why his favorables are so good right now.

If you really think a Socialist who hates to talk about foreign policy is going to win in America in 2016, you are entirely wrong.

The sadder reality is that people vote along party lines.

Democrats outnumber Republicans and if Trump is the nominee you can bet Democrats will vote in force because even though Trump has cross appeal (he literally has the most popularity among registered Democrats out of the possible Republican pools) the percentage of Democrats he appeals to simply isn't enough to push him to the top in the contested states.

Trump's broadest appeal is among unregistered voters and his campaign shows no signs of addressing this fact. Sanders and Trump most likely would split independents making them a nonfactor. Those negative factors about Sanders being a socialist will only hurt Sanders among independents (many of whom were former Republicans who protested the Tea Party movement in the first place nowadays) and unregistered voters (LOL worthy for now).

 

[Elfforkusu]

Very true. The only worry is that the main thing that happened to Clinton in the last 10 months was this:

That's not a candidate who looks like they're going to improve over time... There was a slight amelioration after the Benghazi hearing, but she can't break the overall trend of being less and less popular as time goes on.

I mean, given Clinton is still far more likely than not to be the Democratic nominee, this is seriously worrying for the Dems.

Quoting this post, because I think the graph sums up the danger of crowning Hillary on the basis of "she's the safest path to victory!"

If you think she's the best candidate, ok, fine. But to expect her to reinvent her public perception in 10 months when she's been in the public eye for over 2 decades...?

Anyone who says they'd seriously do it has such a fleeting interest in politics they'll probably even forget to vote come November if Bernie doesn't get the nom.

I agree with this. It'll be Bernie or nobody for that group, they won't be able to stomach voting for Trump. Maybe Hillary if they can grit their teeth and briefly pretend she believes what she's saying.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Her approval rating during her tenure as Secretary of State was sky high, after she'd been a public figure for decades.

Right now she's not drawing attention to herself while the GOP attacks her relentlessly, which I think is driving down her approvals while also letting the crazies in the GOP circus take over. You guys are worried about her match-ups with Rubio? He's barely fending off Ben fucking Carson for third place.

 

[noshten]

IBD TIPP: Hillary 43, BERNIE 39

With just 21 days until the presidential primaries officially begin in Iowa, Hillary Clinton's support among Democrats nationally has taken a serious tumble, falling eight points to 43%, according to the latest IBD/TIPP Poll. Support for her chief rival, Bernie Sanders, climbed six points to 39%.

As a result, Clinton's lead over Sanders, which had been 18 points, is now just 4 points.
Other polls have shown the race tightening in Iowa, which holds its caucuses on Feb. 1, and New Hampshire, which has its primary eight days later. Two recent New Hampshire surveys have Sanders in the lead, and the latest NBC poll in Iowa has Sanders just three points behind Clinton.

But the IBD/TIPP Poll is the first to show the race significantly tightening nationwide.
Clinton, in response to her sagging poll numbers, has started to turn up the heat on Sanders, after all but ignoring the self-described socialist whose maverick campaign has been surprisingly resilient. CNN reported over the weekend that "a sense of anxiety is cascading through Hillary Clinton's campaign" over Sanders' gains.

Clinton recently attacked Sanders on his position on gun control, and released a campaign ad in Iowa and New Hampshire asserting that she is "the only one" who can beat whoever the Republican Party nominates.

Regionally, Clinton saw her support drop most in the Northeast (where it fell to 36% from 50%) and the West (37% down from 49%). Sanders now holds the lead in both places. Clinton support also tumbled among suburban voters, dropping to 39% from last a month's 50%. And she has lost backing among moderate Democrats, falling to 44% from 58%. Sanders picked up 10 points among moderates, to 37%.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...nton-lead-nearly-vanishes-among-democrats.htm


Also regarding the scare tactics and negative ads coming his way you just need to look at his history as an elected official:

The establishment called Sanders's election "a fluke." Two years later Republicans and Democrats joined forces to knock him off. For his second election Sanders ran an efficient, professional campaign and seemed poised to win reelection. The Republicans freaked. "WARNING," their full-page advertisement in the Free Press began, followed by a list of dire consequences of a second Sanders administration, like higher utility bills and increased unemployment. "Mayor Sanders is an avowed Socialist. Socialist principles have not worked anywhere in the world. They won't work in Burlington, either."

Sanders won a clear majority of 52 percent in a three-way race.

In 1990 Sanders challenged incumbent Republican Peter Smith for Vermont's lone House seat. Since 1853, Vermont had elected a Democrat only once; it was considered a safe Republican seat. But running as an Independent, Sanders was poised to topple Smith. Two weeks before the election, Smith ran a starkly negative ad. It portrayed Sanders saying he was "physically nauseated" by JFK's "Ask not" Inaugural address, and it insinuated he supported Fidel Castro against Democrats in Congress. "Those are not Vermont values, Bernie," the ad concluded. "Keep Vermont proud. Keep Peter Smith In Congress."

Vermont reporters proceeded to pick apart the ad and show it distorted Sanders's positions. Newspaper editorials demanded Smith take down the ads. Sanders beat him by 16 percentage points.
When Sanders ran for reelection for the third time in 1996, Republicans had had enough of the semi--socialist in the House. The national GOP threw in hundreds of thousands in campaign cash to knock him off. "We're going to pull out all the stops [to bring down] that god-awful Bernie Sanders," said then-Rep. Bill Paxon, head of the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee. Still, Sanders stood strong in the polls. The GOP sicced a private investigator on the case. She phoned Sanders's first wife to try and mine some mud. As I learned reporting the biography, his ex-wife put off the P.I. and phoned Sanders, who called the press, who called out Republicans for violating Vermont standards. Sanders prevailed.

When Sanders declared for the U.S. Senate in 2005 to replace retiring Jim Jeffords, the Republicans fielded Richard Tarrant. Tall and white-haired, Tarrant was a candidate out of central casting. He was a self-made millionaire. He funded his own campaign to the tune of $7 million. When polls showed Sanders with a commanding lead, Tarrant turned nasty. "If Bernie Sanders is elected," Tarrant told one interviewer, not a single business will move to Vermont. Period. I know this firsthand."

Vermonters knew firsthand that was bunk, and they elected Sanders with a landslide victory of 70 -- 30.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wh...s-2016-Presidential-Candidate-160111-913.html

 

[egruntz]

IBD TIPP: Hillary 43, BERNIE 39




http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...nton-lead-nearly-vanishes-among-democrats.htm


Also regarding the scare tactics and negative ads coming his way you just need to look at his history as an elected official:



http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wh...s-2016-Presidential-Candidate-160111-913.html

538 rates that polling at C- I believe. Very motivating to see, but we'll need to see more of it and from more credible pollings moving forward. Still, undeniably Sanders is gaining traction in these final moments. Things are really starting to look good, and his campaign volunteers (especially over on Reddit) are super fired up to keep working hard to make the lead in Iowa/NH. If Bernie is able to take those early states, it could seriously lead to a victory, but of course there are a lot of factors that will be coming into play and a lot of time to influence the outcome.

Phonebanking myself into Iowa in my spare time. Contributing what I can. Bernie's biggest challenge always has been and will continue to be winning Hillary in the primaries, so this it the time to get pumped and keep the momentum going.