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? These are NPD numbers rounded loldo we have an confirmation for those US numbers or is it more a estimated Number based on the NPD Charts?
? These are NPD numbers rounded loldo we have an confirmation for those US numbers or is it more a estimated Number based on the NPD Charts?
do we have an confirmation for those US numbers or is it more a estimated Number based on the NPD Charts?
do we have an confirmation for those US numbers or is it more a estimated Number based on the NPD Charts?
Very accurate "estimate".
US numbers are from NPD.
EU numbers from GFK.
JP numbers from MC.
It's not doing poorly overall, only in Non-English speaking markets, it's doing quite well in the US and the UK.
Good post.
I am interested in your third point. Is there a company that has the VR capabilities that can compete with PSVR and Oculus? I'm not so sure. Microsoft cannot purchase Oculus because Facebook already claimed that prize of course. Valve also are on lock down.
I really can't see Microsoft competing here. They are always late and always rely on acquisitions to jump start their capabilities. Unfortunately, this time, I cannot see the availability of such requirements as they have either already been acquired or are its primary competitors.
It is of my opinion that Microsoft are forced to not compete, or hope that VR does not kick off. However, as you rightly suggest, the mindshare already belongs to Sony. I am reminded of their mobile phone attempts. To late to the party, too late in acquiring Nokia.
Would Nadella make the mistake that Ballmer did? I believe he won't even attempt it. Xbox One was supposed to synergise the entire Microsoft ecosystem into everyone's living room. It failed, despite tweets from Greenberg and Nelson suggesting otherwise and only implies they've not learned from any mistakes, thus ultimately the Xbox brand is lost.
Any other company by now would have thrown the towel. It is only due to the liquidity of Microsoft that it is able to fund this incredibly expensive, loss-making venture.
Xbox still makes money, the hardware isn't a loss leader, software etc. makes good money. Could be better but not burning a hole in their pocket.
Finally some 2015 numbers for bone.
US 11.1m
UK < 2.5m
DE 0.6m
JP 0.06m
Total: ~14.2m
Keep giving... we need to found these 18m.
Xbox still makes money, the hardware isn't a loss leader,
Absolutely, but the Playstation brand itself is too entrenched in those markets, we saw how brand is more important than anything else last gen with the PS3, dominating NA and nowhere else is a more desirable position than 50/50 marketshare in NA and doing poorly everywhere else.
Yeah, there's no way that will reach 18 million sold it will bearly reach 16 million. That 20 million dream a lot of people have is dead. Is probably 18 million shipped...
US 11.1m
UK < 2.5m
DE 0.6m
JP 0.06m
Total: ~14.2m
I'm amazed that PS4 could put up that number..
slavesnyder will remember thisI doubt there's another 1.5M in Europe minus UK and DE by the way. These countries would be ~25% of the total european market and they're more similar to france and germany than the UK, or even worse, in terms of xbox market share.
I doubt there's another 1.5M in Europe minus UK and DE by the way. These countries would be ~25% of the total european market and they're more similar to france and germany than the UK, or even worse, in terms of xbox market share.
HW numbers from France should be coming in soon -Do we have PS4/XB1/WIIU hardware numbers in france?
Lot of numbers from Nintendo France are coming soon.
Soon, like, few hours?
Hyped anyway.
Yes. With HW numbers, including PS4 and XBO.
HW numbers from France should be coming in soon -
Awesome. I'm expecting XB1 and WiiU to have a better market share (something like 50/24/26 for PS4/XB1/WiiU)
Awesome. I'm expecting XB1 and WiiU to have a better market share (something like 50/24/26 for PS4/XB1/WiiU)
3rd... looks like France took the 2nd placeIsn't Germany supposed to be Xbox's #2 market in Europe?
Nintendo is even more popular in France than here in Germany so it's possible it'll have a higher market share. Don't know enough about MS in France to make a comment about XB1 marketshare.Why are you expecting that?
Isn't Germany supposed to be Xbox's #2 market in Europe?
Xbox still makes money, the hardware isn't a loss leader, software etc. makes good money.
Xbox One reveal absolutely cemented that belief.. what with the TV TV TV FOOTBALL FOOTBALL FOOTBALL games TV TV TV.
Even the Xbox 360 was easily beaten by the more expensive and later released PS3.
The brand Microsoft is quite toxic in most countries in Europe.
Why are you expecting that?
Let me assist you by framing it the way I see it:What's with Wii U doing so well? Gonna have to re-think its failure status
Does this means PS4 in UK >3.0m?Finally some 2015 numbers for bone.
US 11.1m
UK < 2.5m
DE 0.6m
JP 0.06m
Total: ~14.2m
Keep giving... we need to found these 18m.
Yeah I think its pretty safe to say.Does this means PS4 in UK >3.0m?
It guesses but yes.Does this means PS4 in UK >3.0m?
PlayStation seems to be a western-centric product anyway nowadays. The land of the rising sun has moved on.Never thought that a PlayStation could sell better in Germany than in Japan. ^^
Hahaha pffPeregrinSe7en 8)
Finally some 2015 numbers for bone.
US 11.1m
UK < 2.5m
DE 0.6m
JP 0.06m
Total: ~14.2m
Keep giving... we need to found these 18m.
It's here.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high...-console-la-plus-vendue-en-france-en-2015.php
Hardware (2015) LTD
3DS (686 000) 4 000 000
PS4 (1 000 000) 2 155 000
WiiU (228 000) 742 000
XBO (298 000) 715 000
Best-selling games: (with bundles)
1. FIFA 16 (PS4)
2. Call of Duty Black Ops 3 (PS4)
3. Star Wars Battlefront (PS4)
4. Splatoon (WiiU) 300k
5. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4)
6. FIFA 16 (PS3)
7. Animal Crossing HHD (3DS)
8. Mario Kart 7 (3DS)
9. Tomodachi Life (3DS)
10. FIFA 16 (XBO) 211k
Don't forget Mexico.
Beautiful. Pretty much confirms what we have been saying. US+UK makes up 75% of xbox one install base. 13.6m/18mFinally some 2015 numbers for bone.
US 11.1m
UK < 2.5m
DE 0.6m
JP 0.06m
Total: ~14.2m
Keep giving... we need to found these 18m.
Wow, great PS4 sales from Germany, healthy market there, good to see.
Pretty sure the the UK will still be in Europe, unless they found a way to tow it across the Atlantic.#1 after 2017... Wait France pinned it. #2..
Then they haven't seen any sales numbers.And people didn't believe me when I told about how poorly the xbone was going to do in the EU...
Finally some 2015 numbers for bone.
US 11.1m
UK < 2.5m
DE 0.6m
JP 0.06m
Total: ~14.2m
Keep giving... we need to found these 18m.
Wow, the Wii-U is ahead of the XB1?.........
At least 1 million in FrancePS4:
US 12.4m
UK < 3m
DE 2.8m
JP 2.35m
Total: 20.55m
At least 1 million in France
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2016/01/yep_ps4_is_wrecking_the_competition_in_france_too