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Germany sales update: PS4 2.8 million, Wii U 690k, XB1 600k
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Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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1 million just in 2015 i believe, 2.15m LTD
It depends on what you mean by compete. Is there a company that can create another VR headset that works with the One? Absolutely. Is there a company that can create a VR headset of a similar spec as the PSVR and come in at a reasonable price point? Probably not.
Sony is a hardware company, so they have access to resources (most importantly, talent) that allows them to create hardware that is very well-engineered and reasonably priced. I think it's fair to say that on consoles, PSVR will not have any competition at launch. The Rift is compatible with the One, but it acts more as a pair of USB binoculars rather than an actual VR headset. In the same way PSVR poses no threat to the Rift on PC, the Rift poses no threat to PSVR on console.
With that in mind, VR on consoles is already being perceived as a Sony thing. The battle for mind share on consoles is done. What's important to remember is Microsoft are only screwed if VR takes off. Microsoft will have nothing to worry about if PSVR is overpriced and or fails to meet the hype. Microsoft will have everything to worry about if PSVR is affordable and is on the evening news, the morning news, little Timmy's Christmas list, automobile conventions, hospitals, etc. Unlike the last format wars (Bluray VS HD-DVD), Microsoft doesn't have a counter to PSVR. If Sony executes on the potential of VR, then the Xbox One is going to lose a tremendous amount of value. Essentially, the Xbox One will go from being a comparable console to a completely outdated machine. Keep in mind, Sony did fail to execute on the potential of Playroom, so succeeding with PSVR isn't exactly a sure thing.
As for what Nadella will or won't do, well, that's tough to predict. He's clearly focused on the cloud and SaaS. With the failure of Kinect and the Xbox One being significantly behind in hardware sales, I simply cannot see Nadella being quick to greenlight more super expensive hardware investments. I think he's a very smart man who can look at the numbers and realize the Xbox brand has become 'the other option' brand, so it just might not be worth it (for Microsoft) to keep fighting in the hardware space.
Considering this thread I wouldn't say that MSFT have nothing to worry about even if VR is a bigger dud than the Virtual Boy...
KillerMan91
Member
To be fair PS4 launched almost half year later in Japan compared to Europe. Launch aligned PS4 is probably doing around the same in Japan as it is in Germany. Of course still poor showing in Japan considering the historical sales for home consoles there.
I think it's pretty much a given that the PS4 is above 3M in the UK.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
It's incredible to see how Microsoft has completely wasted the success of the 360. Instead of competing with Sony for the global crown, they're back to where they came from with the first Xbox. Since you get a chance in this market only every five years, they're stuck where they are at least until 2018. And then the question should be: is there a point in competing in this market? It's not a core business for MS at all.
IncognitoPanda
Member
Pretty sure. The Xbox 360 caught up with playstation and were trendsetters in many ways. Since then, MS did two 180's.
What the 360 had going for it was a better price point and an easier to develop for console, plus better online features. And Halo.
What I don't get is how they didn't expect their competition to learn from that AND that they went back on it! PS4 is now more powerful all around, is easier to develop for, has more or less caught up with features AND is still pushing out exclusives (inb4 PS4 has no games)
The XOne sacrificed so much that made the 360 ahead of its curve, and then put all their eggs in the Kinect/always online basket. A bold, but uninformed move. Smh.
The Xone's hardware is sturdy and reliable, though, I'll give them that.
Question Etho, is XB1 down YOY in France 2014 vs 2015?
Microsoft needs a CupHead Bundle. That game's nostalgia is beautiful.
CrispyBoar
Banned
They'll be even more brutal this year.
slavesnyder
Member
It's so unique and pretty. I really love the style and concept.
But I'd bet there will be no bundle.
To be fair, Sony won't do one either if it was their game.
by the way: what does 2494 mean? April 2nd birthday?
Beautiful Ninja
Member
As cool as Cuphead looks to be, I think it would be a terrible game to base a bundle around. It's not the kind of game with any sort of mass appeal, either graphically or gameplay wise. Ori for example is a lot better game to base a theoretical bundle around, it's graphics are going to appeal to modern gamers much more than Cuphead's would.
It's a bit up YOY, but i would say that is more like flat.
Are we still running with this "joke"? PS4 had 65% of current gen market share in 2014, so basically double the Xbox One and Wii U sales.
ethomaz
Banned
3% up... well 8k... you can call flat.
clay_ghost
Member
Wait, does all these sales means that Nintendo is 2nd ww or is US such a big market that xbone sales in us made up for the lack of sales ww. This feels like the PS2 gen where Nintendo and Microsoft are fighting for 2nd place. I am surprised Wiiu is not doing that worst outside US market when comparing e to xbone sales.
Bro fist for using scoop.
I do feel though that NZ as the bastion of MS domination will always be funny, as even if it were true winning NZ as a single market is hilariously irrelevant.
SinCityAssassin
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In the larger markets like the UK and US, the Wii U is dead last and a majority of Xbox One sales come from those regions. The race between them is much closer everywhere else WW.
Barring Japan of course.
ethomaz
Banned
Nintendo is 3rd WW by no less than 5m behind Xbone.
US & UK makes all difference... killing the 3m lead Wii U has in Japan.
Does anyone think psvr is going to light the world on fire? It has a nice catalogue, but I don't see that many gamers plopping down $400 for it right now. I don't think it will bomb either. Slow and steady; that's the VR way.
clay_ghost
Member
Hard to quot multiple users on mobile but wow, make sense now. Even so Ms must have regretted not lunching xbone within a smaller time frame ww now..
I don't think it would have mattered anyway.
Nightengale
Member
Germany is a tier-1 market for Xbox. It launched day and date with US.
I think that speaks volumes in regards to how well it does in the tier-2 markets.
Not publicly, at least.
SolidSnakex
Member
With the way the year is starting off, it may be even more lopsided this year. Here what last weeks best sellers looked like in Germany
Unknown?
Member
Wow! PS4 really is expanding new markets everywhere. Glad Germany is catching on. PC and consoles are healthy there.
The Mad Draklor
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Dear lord, it's not even fair >_<
ninjablade
Banned
the xbone is beating wiiu, like ps4 is beating xbone. were looking at the least 40 million shipped by the xbone by the end of its cycle, vs wiiu 15 million shipped. remember wiiu had a year head start. so no it's not even close.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
goodness what a beatdown
MS shouldnt even bother with europe
its a lost cause as well
that x1 reveal effect
YianGaruga
Banned
that's more one-sided than I expected
tattooed_dwarf
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Why not? Because it's selling very poorly compared to PS4? Having presence on many markets is damn important too, despite losing. And it's selling at least some in Europe anyway.
Omnistalgic
Member
Oh my...
PeregrinSe7en
Member
"some"... isnt a whole lot. not enough to justify an effort being made by MS
and since you say being in many markets is important, look at how its going for the x1 in japan and other asian countries
the x1 is viewed as an america box so its easy to see why its getting beat down so hard
El-Pistolero
Member
I had to scroll down to realize that it wasn't a PS4 specific software sales chart that you had posted...That is crazy...
tattooed_dwarf
Member
What amount they should sell to justify the effort? Sounds more like a wish than actual concern on MS's tactics.
As I said, presence is important, even though they sell very poorly in Asia for example.
It's true they need to have miracle to make next Xbox, if there is one, more relevant outside US.
Only one man with daltonism ever could.