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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT2| @agent_89: My sources tell me the season has started
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Go for Krul or Rob Green, I'd say they're better cheap choices, Krul especially.
mocolostrocolos
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Seriously, the Radiohead vs Oasis madness needs to stop. There is not even fucking contest.
LOL. So good.
Anita will play DM alongside Tiote so Cabaye can have freedom attacking. When Santon drives up the pitch, Anita will cover him so we're not totally exposed.
That's what I'm guessing will happen anyway.
No idea how accurate this is to be honest:
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Meus Renaissance
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I'm surprised Wenger wants to rely on the unpredictable lunacy of Santos and the very injury prone Gibbs. We need a replacement for our RBs and LBs when they are injured or are playing badly.
Southampton manager Nigel Adkins is still weighing up potential signings and reports in L'Equipe claim the Premier League new boys are considering a move for Cesena defender Yohan Benalouane. The 25-year-old has also been linked with Everton and Parma following Cesena's relegation to Serie B.
This could be a goer.
This could be a goer.
Ben Arfa out of Spurs game? BAE vs Obertan then.
It seems like he'd rather play Santos in midfield than in defence now. I guess he thinks Vermaelen can cover Gibbs. I still think Arsenal need a keeper to really compete with Chesney.
It seems like he'd rather play Santos in midfield than in defence now. I guess he thinks Vermaelen can cover Gibbs. I still think Arsenal need a keeper to really compete with Chesney.
Freewheelin'
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Oxlade-Chamberlain out of England game with hamstring injury 
I like his surname
Oxlade-Chamberlain out of England game with hamstring injury
IT HAS BEGUN
Ben Arfa is definitely out of the Spurs game. Tiote and Coloccini might miss out. Cabaye isn't match fit yet so I wouldn't be surprised if he only plays a certain amount of minutes in that game. Cisse and Ba are carrying knocks though they should be fine.
Still, we're fucked. I'd say throw Anita straight in as he'll have a few days to gel before Saturday, should he complete his move today.
The only formation I can see being of any use would be:
Krul
Simpson - S.Taylor - Williamson (unless Coloccini is fit) - Santon
R.Taylor - Anita - Gutierrez - Marveaux
Ba - Cisse
It's a very defensive formation, though Gutierrez and Marveaux can also offer forward play for us. I'd have Ba sit behind Cisse so he can function as a semi AM/CF so he can get involved with any playmaking.
Anything else would be far too risky and fuck Pardew if he thinks playing Obertan will be acceptable.
Still, we're fucked. I'd say throw Anita straight in as he'll have a few days to gel before Saturday, should he complete his move today.
The only formation I can see being of any use would be:
Krul
Simpson - S.Taylor - Williamson (unless Coloccini is fit) - Santon
R.Taylor - Anita - Gutierrez - Marveaux
Ba - Cisse
It's a very defensive formation, though Gutierrez and Marveaux can also offer forward play for us. I'd have Ba sit behind Cisse so he can function as a semi AM/CF so he can get involved with any playmaking.
Anything else would be far too risky and fuck Pardew if he thinks playing Obertan will be acceptable.
Where did you hear that? We should have most of our first team.
edit: oh god. We're so fucked.
edit 2: I doubt we'll sign Anita. He wants higher wages than our cap is.
I would advise cheapening your defense and changing goalkeepers (Norwich concede a lot and Szczesny is okay but not worth 6.5). Keep one of Evra (or change him for Vidic) or Kompany, then clear the rest out, fix your forward line, and then go back and fill in the defense.
Good midfield outside of Britton, who won't score any goals. De Guzman or Michu are both goal threats for Swansea.
Strikers need the most work. Cisse (9.5) Suarez (9.5) Jelavic (8.5) Bent (8.5) Ba (7.5) Petric (6) Graham (6) Lambert (6) Pogrebnyak (5) – those are the options you'd want to look at. Tevez at 9 is tempting but I wouldn't want both Tevez and Agüero.
Ici.
I expect Spurs to line up:
Friedel
Walker Dawson Kaboul BAE
Sandro Livermore
Lennon Sigurdsson Bale
Kane
Huddlestone, VDV or Defoe may get in there.
I think any financial analyst or firm who describes their valuation methodology as "accurate" is full of shit. All valuation methods ultimately boil down to the assumptions you make about a firm's future cash flows and these will more often than not involve a lot of guesswork. This is especially true for a business such as a football club where the annual earnings and cashflows are highly uncertain and a lot of which have fairly binary outcomes. To actually believe that your valuation methodologies are "accurate" and to state it so publicly is laughable.
xD I remember when Aguero didn't finish a Premier League game for months because he kept bringing him off with minutes left
Anita and Marv are quality. The other two... meh
Gutierrez is meh?
Playing down the middle? I'd agree.
Been playing with my fantasy team this morning
Good team. Too much City, but you know that already
Sinclair is a waste of 7m by the way, if he moves to City. Michu is 6.5m and De Guzman is 6m, if you actually want a Swansea player.Some Ajax fans on the Dutch forums I visit are complaining how going to Newcastle is stupid. One said: Newcastle is in the part of England where you get depressed by just waking up. I don't think there many good words left for you guys :lol
But at least we get 8,5 million euros for him. Hopefully Ajax will spend the money well instead of keeping it in their pockets. I'd pretty much like to buy Adam Maher from AZ, promising player at the same position as Anita.
But at least we get 8,5 million euros for him. Hopefully Ajax will spend the money well instead of keeping it in their pockets. I'd pretty much like to buy Adam Maher from AZ, promising player at the same position as Anita.
Freewheelin'
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Haha, well he hasn't signed yet. If we don't sign him he'll go back to Ajax.
Ok, I just looked through the site of PrivCo where they posted exactly how they valued United. Apparently, I gave them too much credit earlier. They did not even bother forecasting United's future cash flows. Instead, they used an extremely rudimentary method to derive a "fair value" for United.
Just another one of those useless financial websites hoping to gain some free publicity by making an outlandish prediction and attracting the many idiots out there to subscribe to their services.
Just another one of those useless financial websites hoping to gain some free publicity by making an outlandish prediction and attracting the many idiots out there to subscribe to their services.
Been playing with my fantasy team this morning
Nice team. Wish I had money left for Kompany instead of Zabaleta :/
The thing that bugs the most is that Newcastle isn't the club where you win prizes. They might be good, but the competition in England is too tough. Plus that Ajax plays CL and Newcastle isn't, which leaves the conclusion that Anita only does it for the money at this point in his career. Cause obviously you guys pay him something like the double of his current salary.
I'd rather had Anita one more year at Ajax playing the best of his game to see him leave to an even bigger club that actually can win something (no offence Magpies).
But at least if he comes to Newcastle he'll play. That is the most important thing after all. That he's not going to end up like Babel at Liverpool for example.
I'd rather had Anita one more year at Ajax playing the best of his game to see him leave to an even bigger club that actually can win something (no offence Magpies
).But at least if he comes to Newcastle he'll play. That is the most important thing after all. That he's not going to end up like Babel at Liverpool for example.
Nice team. Wish I had money left for Kompany instead of Zabaleta :/
Some rather risky picks in there but you did so well last season that I can't possibly criticize.
We played some of our best football last season when Gutierrez was part of a central 3. The moment we went back to 4-4-2, we started losing again. Pardew wants to keep Ba happy so he'll sacrifice good football and results, so it doesn't matter.
Arjen
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Hate to see Anita go, but i can't hate on Newcastle, had a great time there.
I remember i went there for work, i checked in at the gate, and the doorman said, "one word of advice mate, you can insult the mother of everyone in here, that's ok, but for the love of god, don't ask how Newcastle is doing at the moment."
I remember i went there for work, i checked in at the gate, and the doorman said, "one word of advice mate, you can insult the mother of everyone in here, that's ok, but for the love of god, don't ask how Newcastle is doing at the moment."
The thing that bugs the most is that Newcastle isn't the club where you win prizes. They might be good, but the competition in England is too tough. Plus that Ajax plays CL and Newcastle isn't, which leaves the conclusion that Anita only does it for the money at this point in his career. Cause obviously you guys pay him something like the double of his current salary.
I'd rather had Anita one more year at Ajax playing the best of his game to see him leave to an even bigger club that actually can win something (no offence Magpies
But at least if he comes to Newcastle he'll play. That is the most important thing after all. That he's not going to end up like Babel at Liverpool for example.
He says he's using us as a stepping stone. So he'll play for us, prove himself in the PL then we'll sell him for more should he become a success.
lol that's great.
The thing that bugs the most is that Newcastle isn't the club where you win prizes. They might be good, but the competition in England is too tough. Plus that Ajax plays CL and Newcastle isn't, which leaves the conclusion that Anita only does it for the money at this point in his career. Cause obviously you guys pay him something like the double of his current salary.
I'd rather had Anita one more year at Ajax playing the best of his game to see him leave to an even bigger club that actually can win something (no offence Magpies
But at least if he comes to Newcastle he'll play. That is the most important thing after all. That he's not going to end up like Babel at Liverpool for example.
The question is, is getting knocked out in CL qualifying or getting dumbed in the group stages more prestigious than playing Man Untied, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal in front of 50k people week in week out.
The thing that bugs the most is that Newcastle isn't the club where you win prizes. They might be good, but the competition in England is too tough. Plus that Ajax plays CL and Newcastle isn't, which leaves the conclusion that Anita only does it for the money at this point in his career. Cause obviously you guys pay him something like the double of his current salary.
I'd rather had Anita one more year at Ajax playing the best of his game to see him leave to an even bigger club that actually can win something (no offence Magpies
But at least if he comes to Newcastle he'll play. That is the most important thing after all. That he's not going to end up like Babel at Liverpool for example.
Babel was always shit though. He managed to regress while at the club and that wasn't due lack of games.
One of these is not like the others (besides the typo).
I perfectly understand it. Newcastle is a big club with great history and indeed, you can play big clubs every week.
Haven't been following him that much in his Liverpool period, but I know he became a complete failure. Too bad, he played quite good at Ajax.
Two of those, arguably.
Bitter much? It will take more than two good years for people from other countries to think of Tottenham as anything of a prestigious or big club.
He shouldn't be a first team player tbh. He's a hard worker but he has gotten slow over the years. He'll be great in cup games and backup for injuries but honestly we can bring in better players, we just haven't for dodgy reasons.
The same goes for Raylor. Not a first team player either.
His first season was good, 07/08, we must have scored 120 goals that year and all our attacking players were great. But then he went off to the Olympics and came back terribley unfit (maybe injured) and it was all downhill from there. It seemed that for the next 3 years, he was always unfit and lazy.
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