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NBC poll: Trump continues to lead the GOP field after 1st debate
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Battersea Power Station
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Is there a chart comparing where the GOP candidates stand on policy issues, or am I way too naive to assume they'd specify positions this early on?
gutter_trash
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"then I said... Only Rosie O'Donell" "hahahahahah"
SchrodingerC
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Honestly, all the media needs to do is not give him coverage. The narcissist loves this attention, whether it's good or bad. Yes, it would be silly to not give a presidential candidate a forum to spread his ideas, but the media just needs to say "The Walking Parody said some bullshit, and now to the actual news." Gives him an insignificant attention and deflate that ego.
Umm I don't know where you're from but I'm from Florida, lived through Bush's tenure here, and can say straight up a lot of that is wrong. Jeb was very well liked in the state during his time as Governor to the point where people here always separated him from his brother. Bush also has a HUGE grassroots following in FL.
Bush isn't charismatic, you're right there and he's gaffe prone but that's about it.
*disclaimer: I am not voting for Jeb
gutter_trash
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I disagree, the media should not let John Ellis Bush (who has amass the most donor money) any attention just because the Koch brothers and the entire GOP establishment are putting their money behind Bush
Trump is essential this election to expose the excess of Super PAC money flowing to candidates like John Ellis Bush
1% is not statistically significant
speculawyer
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Brings me great joy every time I read it.Stolen from one of the many other trump threads:
I can't take this anymore lol
Yep. After the debate I'm legitimately terrified of this guy. His plan is to undo literally everything Obama has done but refuses to offer an alternative to anything.
Walker=Koch Brothers
Jeb=Establishment
Walker at the debate sounded like he was reciting from a prepared list given to him by the Koch Brothers.
SchrodingerC
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Expect people are barely paying attention to the shady donors and are instead focusing on the next silly statement from Trump.
Bam Bam Baklava
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People don't seem to understand how this form of online polling is done. Look up yougov and other pollsters that do online polling now.
It's not an open poll that anyone can just vote in. It's a randomized pool of Republicans chosen by the pollster.
It's not an open poll that anyone can just vote in. It's a randomized pool of Republicans chosen by the pollster.
Trump is actually dangerously charismatic. Similar to how Obama got s love from simple sound bytes like hope and change, trump is the only candidate doing something similar now with non politically correctness and making America great. Hillary doesn't have charisma that's even in the same ballpark.'
Trump should never be able to win..... But I think he's gonna affect the election results one way or another
Trump should never be able to win..... But I think he's gonna affect the election results one way or another
LyleLanley
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Trump, Ted Cruz and Ben Carson being first, second and third makes me feel like like I watched a different debate from everyone else.
Trump and Carson I get, but Ted Cruz?
Arrogant Bastard
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Yep, but all you hear, it was just on CNN, it's just some Internet poll.
Ted Cruz already has a base.
LyleLanley
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I don't get Carson, I haven't heard a single person tell me a legitimate reason as to why he's a good presidential candidate. Cruz seems legitimately crazy so I don't get that either. I assume Trump is still doing well because people are just having fun with this at the moment.
I don't even get Carson. To me he looked like a fool up there at the debate.
Trump will not win GOP nomination. You just have to flip the result a bit, ~75% didn't go for him, the entire lot will go to some another nominee like Jeb Bush when we get to Iowa, or may be a bit later.
Ghost is Bad
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do people even listen to what he says lol
the dudes policy consists of building a giant fence across the mexican border and constantly saying the us is weaker than china and mexico.
the dudes policy consists of building a giant fence across the mexican border and constantly saying the us is weaker than china and mexico.
rokkerkory
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Republicans have a huge issue on their hands lol
I actually imagine that a lot of Cruz's support (if this poll is to be believed and he has support) will go to Trump, there's a lot of crossover appeal there.
Stumpokapow
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This may be true, but a surveymonkey poll is not a nationally representative sample and almost certainly doesn't have an effective likely voter screen. No national polls release on the weekend. Expect the first rolling polls that incorporate the debate to be released Tuesday. Expect effects, if any, of the debate to be apparent by Thursday-Friday.
I try to keep in the back of my mind the fact that Cruz and Trump had a strategy meeting a few weeks ago at Trump Tower in NYC - and that they've been either chummy or they've refrained from attacking each other ever since.
Apparently you don't based off your post
That's false. Way before Fox News was a thing AM radio was and still continues to be the prominent bastion against liberal agendas. Conservatives have their media outlets even if the scope is different.
It wasn't a random poll. They implemented controls to filter out anyone who couldn't vote in the Republican primary.
Yeah, I'm not buying any of that. There's no way anyone could watch that debate and think Trump sunk himself when it was just more of the same shenanigans that got him to the top. You can say you disliked his performance, but you can't say it was inconsistent with anything he's done.
It has as much to do with yourself as it does to do with who you are against.
Oh to be a fly on the wall.
What does that even mean? You realize Trump has already alienated Hispanics and women and that a Republican needs to do well among those demographics to get elected right?
I think Cruz will outlast trump
but yes, they've practically endorsed each other already
Likely enough. Right now it's very messy with 25% winner appearing as a breakaway frontrunner because they have freaking 17 candidates.
titiklabingapat
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I'm sorry but Clinton went toe to toe with Obama during the debates in 2008. Obama better was overall but Hillary held her own. What makes you think Bernie is gonna be better than campaign mode Barrack?
The Main Event
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Would a Trump presidency be actually more harmful to the United States than Cruz, Bush, or Walker?
It seems that the biggest detriment would be xenophobic immigration policy and embarrassing international discourse. I'm not quite sure if Trump would push any kind of social conservative agenda, and I doubt that he would be anywhere near as fiscally conservative as his rivals.
It seems that the biggest detriment would be xenophobic immigration policy and embarrassing international discourse. I'm not quite sure if Trump would push any kind of social conservative agenda, and I doubt that he would be anywhere near as fiscally conservative as his rivals.
On social issues? Not at all. We'd just be a joke internationally.
Sir_Crocodile
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"I'm going to do things for women that no other candidate will be able to do"
Is that a promise or a threat lol
That's one huge question mark in my mind. Congress is likely to remain pretty unproductive for the forseeable future, so the main source of policy change/progress will come from executive orders and judicial actions. For example, what would a Trump Supreme Court nominee look like?
Lime_In_Da_Coconut
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A trump presidency would essentially be a 4 year government shut down. Dems would fight him tooth and nail, as would the sane members of the GoP (not many left but they're there).
shadowsdarknes
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It's going to be lovely watching Hillary just absolutely eviscerate these people on foreign policy.
Could you imagine Ben Carson debating Hillary on the intricacies of our operations and relations in the middle east? lmao
Could you imagine Ben Carson debating Hillary on the intricacies of our operations and relations in the middle east? lmao
I wouldn't expect Trump to push for almost any of the social conservative shit he's spouting. I could see him doing a complete 180 honestly.
The problem is our relations with other countries and the fact that our government would be even more inept as both parties would oppose him for different reasons.
Hillary isn't exactly a foreign policy genius
LaserBuddha
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Despite being wealthy he is a moron, who profits from suing people that he owes money and manipulating the rules of bankruptcy to his benefit as he tanks business after business. He is the Bose of the business world, a fake legacy born entirely of self promotion.
So knowing he isnt even good at business, is there any reason at all to believe he has any skills or competency to run anything?
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