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Wii have taken over! From a reliable source..
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titiklabingapat
Member
Why do they have to court the third parties? As if the numbers don't speak for themselves enough. Third parties aren't in the position of courting anymore if you're Nintendo.Livin_Lovin said:
They tried it last gen and it didn't work(and was thier undoing 10 years ago) but decided to just go with a laizzes faire approach this time around.
They're better off investing all that moneyhat in investing in games they create or outsourcing to devs they have a very good relationship with since thats when they truly shine. Moneyhat for the sake of moneyhats will give us CC and the GBA link cables.
evilromero
Member
Anybody who plays the game with their eyes open will pee their pants. There is no in-joke to be found. The excitement and love for this game is truly legit.Pureauthor said:
Livin_Lovin
Member
LOCK said:
I'll ask you this then, name some of the quality third party titles out there right now. Oh, and please don't include ports, I already own Resident Evil 4.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Livin_Lovin said:
Would there even be a point in answering you? You seem pretty set on how you feel.
koam said:
That's discussable. Uptill this point 360 Software sales has been outstanding. Especially third-party titles. I don't know how many third-party million sellers the 360 has, but I know it's a good amount.
Secondly, I think it will be extremely difficult for many developers to port games from the Wii to the 360. It has a totally different control scheme. And games that works perfectly well for the Wii only works decent or mediocre for the standard control scheme. You just mentioned a perfect example; Rayman. The 360 version sucked and sold horrible, and for a reason. It was meant for the Wii, meant for Wii controller, not the 360 controller. That there will be no 360 version of Rayman 2 backs my argument.
Lastly, but most importantly, most developers should have enough resources to develop for two different markets. One market for the Wii and one for the 360/PS3. Software sales shows this. Games meant for the Wii sells great, games meant for the 360/PS3 sells. It's that simple.
Livin_Lovin
Member
BrandNew said:
Well, I want to want a Wii. I tried to like Nintendo with Gamecube. Please, convince me.
The Lillster
Banned
Livin_Lovin said:
Convince yourself.
Livin_Lovin
Member
The Lillster said:
Wonderful contribution.
I'm sure you did.Livin_Lovin said:
Kororinpa was nice, pretty fun to tool around with, but I'm sure you'd have something snarky to say about that, such as "minigame am total" or what have you.
Madden '07 played wonderfully, as far as I'm concerned, looking to see what tweaks they make in '08 this year.
Metal Slug Anthology was good, as well, and since Metal Slug 2 and 6 were not included in any other home console release, it can still qualify as not being a port. So there.
Sonic was a hell of a lot better on Wii than that abomination on 360 and PS3. Wasn't exactly the best Sonic game ever, but not nearly as bad as people make it sound.
Elebits was a "love it or leave it" sort of game. Really appealed to some in the same sort of vein Katamari did, but like Katamari, this really isn't everyone's bag.
The Lillster
Banned
Livin_Lovin said:
Oh snap!
Livin_Lovin
Member
Terrell said:
Smooth...And its true, most of those games (If not all) don't scream insta-buy.
Oh, and for the record, I've played Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros Melee, and Super Mario Sunshine. It's just that I don't want more of that again.
RiskyChris
Banned
Livin_Lovin said:
Have you played any of them? Kororinpa is one of the best games I've played in years.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Frillen said:
i dont like Nintendo (1st party) games NEARLY as much as i did during the nes and snes era, and I went with a wii(60).
to me the last 2 gens (aside from mario 64) were about the NON nintendo exclusives (Goldeneye, Aki Wrasslin, Resident Evil Remake / 4, Eternal Darkness).
I mean ill get Galaxy but if anything I wanna see what cool 3rd party exclusives are cooked up on Wii
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I'll throw a little something on the fire here:
Question: Does Bioshock and Halo 3 make the 360 competitve with the Wii this christmas or not?
And I'm talking worldwide sales here.
Question: Does Bioshock and Halo 3 make the 360 competitve with the Wii this christmas or not?
And I'm talking worldwide sales here.
Square2005
Banned
I have 342k Wiis sold for Canada...
84k in 2006.
84k in 2006.
Salmonax said:
absolutely no way. They sold almost half a million Wii's in ONE MONTH... in JULY. They only way the 360 gets close to the Wii sales this year is due to supply issues.
Zeed said:
and please, you had to know about it if you did anything besides read the one single line in that page. Dont make yourself look like a jackass
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So you're saying there's absolutely no way those supply issues could be... an issue?gcubed said:
Barkley's Justice
Member
honestly tho, who's making MONEY where.
let's use EA as an example since they are the 3rd party worldwide leader:
where is their money coming from? wii sales? or 360?
i suspect, much like any nintendo console post-snes, that the only people selling game units/making money is nintendo. they could sell 20 million consoles, but are 3rd parties selling units? or is everyone buying 1st party titles?
i am not being facetious. i'd truly like to know other than nintendo -- and other than launch titles -- what wii games have sold 500,000+?
let's use EA as an example since they are the 3rd party worldwide leader:
where is their money coming from? wii sales? or 360?
i suspect, much like any nintendo console post-snes, that the only people selling game units/making money is nintendo. they could sell 20 million consoles, but are 3rd parties selling units? or is everyone buying 1st party titles?
i am not being facetious. i'd truly like to know other than nintendo -- and other than launch titles -- what wii games have sold 500,000+?
Barkley's Justice
Member
stewacide said:
that's not the point tho. like i said, nintendo can sell more consoles than anyone else and as far as nintendo cares they could be the only publisher of games on the system, so long as they're making their loot. and if you as a gamer are ok with that homogenized publisher library, cool. but otherwise, 3rd parties will go where there's money to be made. if they sell more units on 360 or ps3 despite said consoles having less worldwide penetration, they're going to stay there.
Livin_Lovin
Member
DavidDayton said:
Solid third party support.
Barkley's Justice said:
No they wont, every buisness is based on profit and even more importantly, growth. Every third party publisher will shrink if they stick to the 360/PS3 especially if you think about systems like the PS1 and PS2 which sold 100 million + units. Growth for these publishers is being succesfull on the 360 but also being succesfull on the Wii. Publishers will come up with stuff that selld on the Wii, even if that means firing there staff and hiring new ones.
Livin_Lovin
Member
ksamedi said:
Even with the sales of the Wii, all we've heard from publishers and developers is press release after press release about how they should've focused on Wii or how there might be a shift in the development process, but beyond these statements there's been no true lasting evidence that this is going to happen. Perhaps they feel that the core gamers are looking for those meaty experiences on one of the more hardcore-based consoles.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
yet it only actually leads in one territory..........
Livin_Lovin
Member
Proc said:
I'm not saying it can't be. The base of those two systems are more steeped in the hardcore though.
Livin_Lovin said:
Publishers will branch out eventually, whats going on right now is that every publisher wants a quick cash in from the casual audiance but (and rightfully so) that isnt working for them. The big games will probably come out near the end of 2008 and early 2009 because these games take a while to make. 360 is still the main platform for the hardcore gamer though, and thats probably never going to change because its so specialized in that area.
Rancid Mildew
Banned
It's inevitable that the Wii will get some hardcore games. If the DS can get Dragon Quest from the Playstation, I don't see why everyone thinks support on the Wii has to remain weak.
Hopefully that KH rumor turns out to be true. That'd be a massive defection that would silence this talk about how the Wii's game support will exist only in Nintendo's bubble.
Hopefully that KH rumor turns out to be true. That'd be a massive defection that would silence this talk about how the Wii's game support will exist only in Nintendo's bubble.
Livin_Lovin
Member
ksamedi said:
It's just hard to see the light above the trees when no announcements for support have come out and because Nintendo keeps their shit so under wraps that nobody knows what the hell, beyond Mario Kart, is going to happen in 2008.
:lol It's not the point? It's the WHOLE point.Barkley's Justice said:
Third-party games for the Wii have been downright pathetic. You start putting the wealth, and sheer amount of great games on the Wii, you'll see third-party sales go thru the damn roof.
This whole discussion is pointless anyway. By march of next year, when the Wii has sold thru the combined install base of both the other systems, either third-parties start making the Wii its main platform, or suffer some incredibly lean ass years. Period.