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Germany sales update: PS4 2.8 million, Wii U 690k, XB1 600k
- Thread starter Ryng_tolu
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I got reason right here.
just wait until they release a beer brewery simulator exclusive for PS4.
for german parents everything you own is either a nintendo or a playstation.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Well that puts things into perspective. Jees!
guggnichso
Banned
Just fyi, the Xbone was actually cheaper to buy at some big retailers this christmas than the Wii U. Especially combined with those Gamerscore promotions.
Hardly surprising for anyone living here.
Not even a German product, you need to go to shit tier simulators for that.I got reason right here.
PS3 dominated last gen at a higher price point and releasing more than a year later (the Wii did too).
YianGaruga
Banned
I actually don't know any UK numbers, I was looking for a link or somethingLogic?
The PS4 can't be below 2.8M in the UK.
hard to apply logic otherwise! unless I'm missing some other reason why UK can't be below 2.8m
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
"Wir rufen dich Galaktika..."Meanwhile at Xbox Germany headquarters... full meeting
slavesnyder
Member
Sisfist
Well it's LTD, and Wii U has been out for a year longer, MoM, they're probably tied or with a small lead.
HOWEVER
Keep in mind that a large part of Europe was tier 2 country, so for the first full year MediaMarkt Germany was supplying a number of other countries with Xbox Ones, these are likely included in the sales data. That means that XB1 market share is probably not just a bit but actually a lot lower than Wii U.
Purely anecdotally, this seems to fit my experience here in the Netherlands as well, where I know a few people with a Wii U but next to no one with an XB1. PS4 is the de facto game console for everyone.
edit: beaten by slow typing.
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Dat 4:1 ratio. Safe to assume that rest of mainland Europe shares the same split?
Probably worst in Spain but better in France.
If PS4 is at < 2.8m in UK, the gap with XB1 is under 100k, and this mean that in the second half of 2015 XB1 has outsold PS4 by a good margin, since the gap was 400-500k in June 2015.
In Italy was >70% marketshare back in March 2015.
This would've blown my mind during the PS2 days, but it doesn't sound so crazy anymore.
The PS4 hit 2M in April, when it was around 1.6M in Germany. There's no way that changed now (ie Germany > UK).
Plus we know the PS4+XB1 total is 5.5M, so if UK<Germany that means PS4=XB1 in the UK. Again not possible.
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Vom fernen Stern Andromeda...
It's doing so well because a lot of PC gamers are converting.
YianGaruga
Banned
Yeah Japan has really fallen.
Any sources on that? That's not my impression at all. It's just that the console market in Japan is dying and not that Germany is going crazy.
These statistics show a more true picture of the actual sales issue with Xbox One. All we ever hear is NPD stuff, there is a reason for that.
Xbox is pretty much dead everywhere except UK and US. That is a huge issue for Microsoft.
So when I see Greenberg and Major Nelson tweeting what they do, it is almost as though they haven't learned a goddamn thing from their mistakes this generation. That's an even greater issue.
Xbox is pretty much dead everywhere except UK and US. That is a huge issue for Microsoft.
So when I see Greenberg and Major Nelson tweeting what they do, it is almost as though they haven't learned a goddamn thing from their mistakes this generation. That's an even greater issue.
guitarguy316
Member
I never payed attention, but those seem low compared to North America. Are video games not that popular globally?
It depends, it's even worse in Italy or Spain, where even the Vita is doing better, but it's slightly better in France (not by much though).
Andrew House already said that Germany is PS4's largest market in Europe.
Although maybe he's talking about software.
Bioshocker
Member
I suspect it to be very similiar in Scandinavia. PS4 is the dominating platform, Xbox One gets good shelf space and Wii U is barely visible but has its loyal fans nevertheless.
Katana_Strikes
Member
People are less popular than in the US.
I think he is talking about MOM sales.
I think he is refering to this article: http://www.afr.com/technology/gadge...s-ps4-stays-ahead-of-the-pack-20151206-glgyc3
Was also debated on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1152173
Germany:
~ 80m people
NA:
> 500m People
If just referring to the US:
US Population : 319 M
Germany Population : 80.2 M (and aging)
It's about the same ratio per habitant.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Pretty amazing numbers for Wii U.
PS4 is king in europe.
PS4 is king in europe.
There was no direct quote in that article, but here's what was said:
That doesn't mean that the PS4 LTD in Germany is the largest in Europe at all.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Population is kind of tied to sales...
So PS4 sold 71% in 2 years what PS3 took 7 years to sell. I guess console market is dead.
Well it's actually worse in other European countries. I'm guessing in Spain/Portugal it's probably closer to 10:1, considering how PS3/Xbox 360 ratio was already very slanted towards PS3 even when Xbox 360 HW sales spiked because of piracy.
There was a thread about it a while ago, basically, PC = 50% of consoles revenue, and since PS4's hardware marketshare is close to 70%, it's safe to assume that it's the same for software, it's even higher if you include PS3.
And Japan isn't "dying", it's just no longer a juggernaut, the PS4 sold 1.35 million there this year, that's probably more than the XB1 did in its second largest market (the UK).
I don't think he specified, but that's possibly what he meant.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Same here in Sweden. I know a ton of people with a PS4, a few with a Wii U, and nobody at all with an XBO (that I'm aware of at least).
It's the case in a lot of markets. Wouldn't be Wii U worldwide LTD higher than X1 LTD if you exclude USA?