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Football Thread |OT12| Kicked the Ballboy Like Stan Hit Ulrika

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Clegg

Member
I think Scholes will retire at the end of the season. He's barely been used over the last few months and Carrick/Clev is now our main cm pairing.
 
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dc89

Member
Empty said:
idk who is more useless, #basedmarwood or #basedgazidis
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I'd stop laughing at #basedmarwood and start worrying about #basedtxiki.

Marwood now oversees the academy. Txiki oversees first team player scouting and recruitment. Inb4 academy set to fuel first team jibes... let it get built first ffs.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
. Last week when the doctor suspected of being behind Spain’s cyclist-doping problem, Eufemiano Fuentes, spoke in court, he offered to reveal the names of dopers from other sports like soccer and tennis. The judge had to stop him! Fuentes has boasted that some of the samples he holds involve Spanish world cup winning stars
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So, Barcelona or Madrid players then?
 
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Milchmonster

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DerZuhälter;47286547 said:
The only one I thought would stay home was Gündogan... but since Schweinsteiger is staying home it's a good opportunity to be recognized as a better option than Schweinsteiger for CDM.
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Rumor is that Gündogan is just traveling to the national team to get checked by Müller-Wohlfahrt lol
 
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Hixx

Member
#basedByrne is the worst

We have a tiny squad before the window opened and after it's closed it's even smaller.
 
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Diablo Rosso

Member
Freewheelin' said:
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lol
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Amazing.
 
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Meier

Member
Awesome Animals said:
My gf told me a great story from the other night. She was out with friends getting a drink from the bar and noticed a kid wearing a Man City shirt (impressed she even recognized it). She ask him if he supported City and he just stared surprised that she 'knew about football'. She then told him she knew enough to know not to like city. <3 when he asked who she supported she told him Villa and he just continued to stare dumbfounded. When he finally managed to form a sentence he asked why she doesn't like the best team in the premier league to which she replied: they only won because they have the most money.

I can't believe she listens to me when I rant about the EPL and apparently the times we spend on Saturday mornings in bars watching Aston Villa with the supporters group has rubbed off on her.

I thought some of you would get a kick out of that.
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She's going on the list.
 
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Kyoufu

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Clegg said:
It feels weird to have a semi decent midfield again.

Need to sort out our defence now.
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Our midfield poops on yours.

Your strength though is you can field individually average players and get positive results from them due to the top class coaching at Man Utd.
 
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Clegg

Member
Vivalaraza said:
Its still shit.

(Relative to where it needs to be)
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Compared to the best midfields in Europe we're very average.

But we're miles better in the league then we were last season. Two good CMs will see us in better stead for the CL. At least one quality CM is still needed though.
 
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Vivalaraza

Member
Clegg said:
Compared to the best midfields in Europe we're very average.

But we're miles better in the league then we were last season. Two good CMs will see us in better stead for the CL. At least one quality CM is still needed though.
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Carrick is the only consistent one.

Cleverley has been doing well but he still has a lot to prove. Two big tests for him next week. Everton, who he was poor against on Gameweek 1 and then Real Madrid. He needs to perform in those games.

Anderson is still 50-50. He's come back from injury better than expected but then he was very poor against Saints.

The rest are just there. Scholes is still class on his day but not to be relied upon. Giggs the same.

If Carrick gets injured/drops his level we're in real trouble.
 
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Clegg

Member
Vivalaraza said:
Carrick is the only consistent one.

Cleverley has been doing well but he still has a lot to prove. Two big tests for him next week. Everton, who he was poor against on Gameweek 1 and then Real Madrid. He needs to perform in those games.

Anderson is still 50-50. He's come back from injury better than expected but then he was very poor against Saints.

The rest are just there. Scholes is still class on his day but not to be relied upon. Giggs the same.

If Carrick gets injured/drops his level we're in real trouble.
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Agreed. Especially on the Carrick bit. IMO we'll be comfortably outclassed by madrid. They're in a poor run of form atm but they have too much quality for this run to continue.

I'd like to see Clev knee up his good form for the rest of the season and for us to find a decent alternative to Carrick. Because if he ever gets injured we'll fall to pieces.
 
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Tc91

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Tim the Wiz said:
I didn't realize it was a save.

Mirror still saying we're getting Begovic, and Barca wants an erratic keeper not good enough for United.
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None of the press mentioned that save. Didn't watch MOTD they might of but it's annoying as they only pick out De Gea's errors rather than saves like that.
 
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Wilbur

Banned
Tc91 said:
None of the press mentioned that save. Didn't watch MOTD they might of but it's annoying as they only pick out De Gea's errors rather than saves like that.
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Said something about him spilling a shot again despite how quickly he got down to stop it meant he could hardly grab it, but they say fuck all about Hart as usual.
 
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Kyoufu

Member
Welcome to MOTD.

They talked about how we could have had 2 red cards but said nothing about Ramires' 2 foot tackle.

Goals on Sunday is better (even though they failed to mention it too).

Also De GOAT is awesome and I don't get the hate. He's young.
 
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Vivalaraza

Member
Tc91 said:
None of the press mentioned that save. Didn't watch MOTD they might of but it's annoying as they only pick out De Gea's errors rather than saves like that.
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Read some reports which said that shot had him floundering only to be saved by the post. LOL.

Wilbury said:
Said something about him spilling a shot again despite how quickly he got down to stop it meant he could hardly grab it, but they say fuck all about Hart as usual.
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Hart was all over the place yesterday. Jokes.
 
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Tc91

Member
Wilbury said:
Said something about him spilling a shot again despite how quickly he got down to stop it meant he could hardly grab it, but they say fuck all about Hart as usual.
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I thought Hart was terrible yesterday I wish that back pass from Zabaleta went in. I think he's got too cocky in his role at City as he doesn't have a 2nd keeper to push him for his place in the team.
 
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Tim the Wiz

Banned
Our depth in central midfield is very troubling. Anderson and Fletcher have seemingly permanent fitness issues. Scholes on his last legs. Giggs and Jones at best decent rotation in a pinch. That just leaves Carrick and Cleverley as United's only consistent options there, and no-one else can really do the same job as the former if he gets injured.

Wanyama, Strootman, et al. Unless we're set about promoting some youth, then United should really go after both of them. No doubt Fergie will buy another winger, extend Giggs/Scholes, and refer to a returning Anderson/Fletcher as a new signing.

Tc91 said:
None of the press mentioned that save. Didn't watch MOTD they might of but it's annoying as they only pick out De Gea's errors rather than saves like that.
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Once the media has a narrative about something... And when you look at how prevalent this type of laziness is in areas that actually matter (relative to sport), it's kind of scary.
 
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Mastadon

Banned
The Guardian

Uefa has warned Manchester City and Paris St Germain they will not be allowed to "cheat" its financial fair play rules, as new figures showed the scale of the challenge in stemming the flow of red ink across Europe and it emerged two English clubs would have fallen foul had they been in place this season.

Releasing its latest benchmarking report, which showed cumulative losses of clubs across Europe ballooned from &#8364;0.6bn (£0.52bn) to a record &#8364;1.7bn between 2007 and 2011, Uefa said that a simulation exercise based on the last three years had showed 46 clubs would have failed the break-even test.

"It is a hell of a lot of money and a very worrying situation that the clubs have the responsibility to take very seriously. It is not about just one club that might go bankrupt. The whole of football cares, because the consequences of a club going bankrupt are felt across the game," said Uefa's general secretary, Gianni Infantino, of the spiralling losses.

Of the 46 clubs that failed to break even, 20 made losses of more than the acceptable total of &#8364;45m over three seasons that would lead to sanctions up to a ban from European competition.

Two of the 20, believed to be Chelsea and Manchester City, were English. The exercise was based on figures for the three seasons between 2009 and 2011 and both clubs remain confident of complying when the first assessments begin for real next spring.

Chelsea posted their first profit of the Roman Abramovich era for their Champions League-winning season of 2011-12, partly thanks to one-off share dividends, but are expected to go back into the red this year. Manchester City's most recent results showed a loss of £97.9m.

Infantino insisted Manchester City's deal with Etihad, which will deliver more than £400m over 10 seasons, and Paris St Germain's jaw-dropping deal with the Qatar Tourism Authority, which will deliver up to &#8364;200m per season, would be rigorously scrutinised to ensure they were fair.

Expert panels will assess the "fair value" of sponsorship deals and if related party transactions breach them, the relevant amount will be deducted from the break-even calculations.

"Everyone, including PSG, know the rules and knows when they kick in. They know the rules are that they have to generate revenues to cover their costs without cheating," he said.

He said that he remained confident that the rules, which could see the first sanctions being applied in 2014-15, "have teeth". Clubs that exhibit "warning signs" will be investigated by a panel headed by the former Belgian prime minister Jean-Luc Dehaene and sanctions handed down by a separate independent panel.

"When we first discussed FFP it was Chelsea [that attracted questioning], then you have Manchester City, then it was PSG. Our responsibility is to have a system that works for more than 630 clubs and not look at one club and neglect the rest. Each individual situation will be assessed very carefully by these two panels."

Infantino pointed to the fact that Uefa has excluded 34 clubs from competition under its existing rules, including Besiktas and Málaga, as evidence it would not hesitate to act if required.

And he said that the extent to which the existing "overdue payables" rules had succeeded in reducing the amount of overdue debt by 68% to &#8364;18.3m since June 2011 was evidence that Uefa's approach could succeed.

"PSG have to respect the rules, they want to respect the rules. They are telling us they want to respect the rules. The FFP rules are there to help the clubs. Uefa doesn't want to sanction the clubs, we want to help them. But sometimes we have to sanction someone to help the clubs."

Infantino said that despite the record losses, there were signs that rules already in force to ensure clubs paid their bills on time and the looming enforcement of the break-even rule were having an effect.

He said that the gap between revenue and costs was narrowing for the first time since it started compiling the figures &#8211; albeit by just 0.1% to 12.7%. Revenues and attendances have also held up across European football despite the ongoing financial crisis.

Uefa's team of 15 accountants will begin analysing figures next spring for the years 2011-12 and 2012-13, the first period to be monitored under the new break-even regime. Clubs will be allowed an acceptable deviation of up to &#8364;45m over those two years, as long as it is met by a benefactor.

When clubs are assessed for real, contracts with players signed before June 2010 when the rules were announced can also be discounted from the calculation, along with investment in facilities, youth development and charitable donations.

According to Uefa's exercise, the clubs competing in Europe this season would have had a "break even deficit" of &#8364;480m between them in 2011 if they were assessed for FFP now. Infantino confirmed that the fact that PSG are donating David Beckham's salary to charity meant that it could be discounted from the FFP calculation. The Uefa general secretary also insisted FFP would not lead to a situation where the big clubs were able to "lock in" the established order.

"I would say this is not correct. Probably, the contrary will happen. FFP is not about blocking the system as it is," he said, pointing to the way in which clubs such as Arsenal, Borussia Dortmund and Bayern Munich had diversified their revenues in a sustainable way.

"It is healthy and much more sustainable than someone coming in, promising a lot and then the next day the club is bankrupt. Look at the situation with Rangers. Secondly, big clubs have always existed, this will not change. In the past this was attendances, then commercial rights and TV rights," he said. No club had won the Champions League two years running in its 20-year history, he added.

Infantino also confirmed that Uefa was determined to ban third-party ownership of players, as is the case in the Premier League. "We think this should be the case all over the world, certainly all over Europe. If Fifa will not do it, we will certainly do it as far as Europe is concerned," he said.
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Unlucky DC ;)
 
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Vivalaraza

Member
LabouredSubterfuge said:
Ruh roh, Cech is injured.

UNLEASH THE TURNBULL

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2009/7/8/1247072065482/Ross-Turnbull-001.jpg/IMG][/QUOTE]Broken finger. Hmm, wonder how long that will keep him out for.

Man, Everton needed to win this weekend. They're having it this weekend which means they'll still be a way behind Chelsea. A shame.
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ShogunX

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Wilbury said:
Why are people still following the narrative that the Europa League is shit? It's certainly a flawed competition structurally, but look at the teams competing. Bollocks to it being shit.
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I've said it before but it arguably throws up more interesting ties than the Champions League every now and then.
 
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dc89

Member
Vivalaraza said:
Broken finger. Hmm, wonder how long that will keep him out for.

Man, Everton needed to win this weekend. They're having it this weekend which means they'll still be a way behind Chelsea. A shame.
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I do not profess to be any good in net, or to have indeed broken a finger. But prior to Christmas at 5 a side I tried to get down low to stop a deflection going in, and I stubbed my ring finger pretty badly on the surface, whilst wearing gloves with those finger save things in.

If I palm a ball away on the same hand I still get a twinge of pain, weeks after doing it. So yeah, :/
 
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Kyoufu

Member
ShogunX said:
I've said it before but it arguably throws up more interesting ties than the Champions League every now and then.
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Only in the knockout stages and only because those sides have gotten to the point where they have incentive to play their strongest team.

The group stages are a real bore.
 
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Salvadora

Member
Chelsea could drop out of the top four provided the other competing teams won't fuck up (they will). Arsene buying Nacho could salvage our season.
 
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