BumblebeeCody
Member
Yo just a heads up to that guy who did all the donations. I love you man. You're cool. If you wanna "troll" me, come stop by my Twitch. No kappa.
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Twitch troll tries to donate $50k then chargeback as a prank. It ends bad.
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BlazingDarkness
Member
SomedayTheFire
Member
Lmao what the fuck. "could this board be anymore cruel" then you proceed to call a girl you don't know an idiot.
Imperfected
Member
No, no, it's okay, see:
They're not victims, they're Twitch streamers. Those monsters.
MegaMelon
Member
Cruel
wilfully causing pain or suffering to others
If anything, this idiot is the one being cruel, purposefully donating money only to pull it well after the streamer's think it won't be taken back.
lol
He 'pranked' more than one person. You can see so in the video if you bothered to skip ahead.
And this 'kid' is 18. What age then is 'clearly enough to know' that this was a bad idea?
I sense jealousy. I'm not a fan of the whole streaming thing, but to say they don't deserve money opens up a new can of worms. At what point does a job go from undeserving to deserving of money?
And yet him potentially ruining streamer's lives is ok? Double standard no?
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In short, you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down, read this thread through and understand the implications of a 'prank' like this before crying foul.
it is a kid right? because if it is a 'guy' then the story changes, yes the kid is a idiot but ive watched enough twitch to see streamed get fake donations and call it out, this girl gets $7k 5 times in a row and thinks its real.... yes she is a moron too
Rollo Tomasi
Member
Does anyone know who the second streamer is on the video? The one playing Hearthstone?
chris121580
Member
He's 18 years old...not a kid. He got what he deserved
SomedayTheFire
Member
It was an adult. You are a sad, bitter person.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I just wanna say, most Twitch don't get access to their donations until a few days after the donation is made.
If someone's immediate reaction to getting $1,000 dollar is too IMMEDIATELY spend $1,000... I can't say I'd feel sorry for their financial problems that occur.
Honestly, Twitch streams make bank.
And, haha get screwed Kid. Hope your parents give you a legitimate lesson.
BlazingDarkness
Member
On Twitter he wrote they hit him with wooden spoons
I don't know if that's some sort of euphemism
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Wow, people are actually defending this dudes behavior?
I mean, really? This guy tried to financially ruin people he doesn't even know, don't know him.
This dude was going to do something incredibly shitty, and instead it backfired and now he's in trouble.
He got exactly what he deserves, the dude is an asshat.
I mean, really? This guy tried to financially ruin people he doesn't even know, don't know him.
This dude was going to do something incredibly shitty, and instead it backfired and now he's in trouble.
He got exactly what he deserves, the dude is an asshat.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
A "kid" pranking with the intention to cost unsuspecting people money will get no tears from me when it's time to pay it back.
kingofthedead45
Member
Literally one post above rips your entire argument to shreds breh.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Good. If you want to be an asshole and gamble your own money for a 'prank' on innocent people, this is what ya get.
Hopefully the kid's learned.
Hopefully the kid's learned.
His parents are probably making sure he has.
a few posts on a msg board is enough for you to know me to the point where you can say im sad and bitter but watching someone on twitch getting 10k+ in donations and thinking its real isnt enough for me to call them a idiot......
hypocrite much?
DeejayKnight
Member
Yikes on all accounts.
For the unaware, the PayPal Chargeback Fee to the party getting paid is $20 USD per transaction. So in the case of anyone getting 10 chargebacks, the minimum is $200 that the person/company that got paid initially has to pay PayPal, and that's in addition to whatever monies that have been removed. Getting $10k in donations over 8 transcations coats that streamer $10,160 at minimum.
So I imagine many people here are in defense of the 'prankster' because the donations were to Twitch streamers, but the only way this could be worse is if it were another business where they came away with physical goods. Either way, the intent was malicious and the guy is of age to be prosecuted.
"His life shouldn't be ruined because of this." He tried to ruin someone else's. If PayPal did deny the chargebacks, he has to pay that money back and hopefully will have learned a valuable lesson in "teh LULs".
For the unaware, the PayPal Chargeback Fee to the party getting paid is $20 USD per transaction. So in the case of anyone getting 10 chargebacks, the minimum is $200 that the person/company that got paid initially has to pay PayPal, and that's in addition to whatever monies that have been removed. Getting $10k in donations over 8 transcations coats that streamer $10,160 at minimum.
So I imagine many people here are in defense of the 'prankster' because the donations were to Twitch streamers, but the only way this could be worse is if it were another business where they came away with physical goods. Either way, the intent was malicious and the guy is of age to be prosecuted.
"His life shouldn't be ruined because of this." He tried to ruin someone else's. If PayPal did deny the chargebacks, he has to pay that money back and hopefully will have learned a valuable lesson in "teh LULs".
BlazingDarkness
Member
Can't believe anyone is defending this kid, who likes to flaunt how rich he is on his twitter by posting pictures of his poached egg lunches.
Say what you want about the streamers, but trying to ruin the livelihood of those that are way less fortunate than you is a real dick move.
Say what you want about the streamers, but trying to ruin the livelihood of those that are way less fortunate than you is a real dick move.
Fuck him. I don't care if he is rich or poor. He brought this on himself when his little plan to fuck over others backfired on him. I feel no sympathy for him here and it boggles my fucking mind that there are people in this thread arguing that he is the victim in all this and should get off scot-free. No wonder this world is filled with little shits when we have people lining up to excuse this behavior.
It's not unheard of for big Twitch streamers to get big donations. That girl you're calling an idiot has gotten donations bigger than that before.
How exactly is she an idiot for thinking they were real?
Well you were pretty quick to judge GAF for their reaction without knowing all the facts
OP says kid forced to pay out the $50k then every post was "got what he deserved" ....
brickwalker0
Member
right there with you. Twitch is the fuckin worst in all ways.
What an asshole. Also sounds like someone who doesn't appreciate the value of money.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
oh, so you're one of them. I'll just ignore you, then.
You don't understand how entertainment works? You the type of dude to complain that NFL players get paid too much?
Why?
Imperfected
Member
He specifically waited a month before attempting the chargebacks.
Looking at his choice of targets, he wasn't going down the list of top streamers. Most of these people probably are not making bank. Most of them look like they're pretty borderline on even having Twitch partnership.
More like being banned.
Ive gotten more entertainment from the salt produced by twitch streamers during their streams than what I've had from standard cable television in years.
I pay for my entertainment.
When I'm bored at work and there is a game I would like to see played, I watch a streamer.
If that is entertaining and I watch for, lets say, the whole game, I give the guy a tip for spending his time and making my work less boring.
That's what my grandmother did with me when I was 5. Until I was about 12. They can hurt, especially the ones with little slits cut in them.
First guy makes about 35k a month and the second person is his girlfriend. They're very well off.
TheSpoiler
Member
There is none. It's just assumptions from the video. There's a guy in this topic that could only find that Soda was fighting the charges.
If this involves just the 4 listed names in the youtube description, then you're greatly underestimating how much streamers earn.
It's not unheard of for big Twitch streamers to get big donations. That girl you're calling an idiot has gotten donations bigger than that before.
How exactly is she an idiot for thinking they were real?
Holy shit.
Those are quite the numbers.
DeejayKnight
Member
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MysticDistance
Banned
This may be blunt, but I think he absolutely deserves and should pay the $50K in debt.
He literally did this to himself and was trying to commit fraud. Sure, he may have seen it as a prank or a joke, but the true definition of this is fraud.
If you don't want the $50K debt, don't try to scam people out of donations you've given them. And judging by his Twitter and other things I've seen, it looks like he's got a lot of money. I feel bad for the parents, but I just can't find sympathy at all for someone like this. He tried to screw over people he donated to.
Sure, the point of debt forgiveness (specifically, lowering his current debt) for this kid is debatable, but personally I think this is deserved.
When you play with fire, you get burnt. When you go out of your way to screw over those you've donated to a month later, you'll face those consequences. I really don't get the defenses made for this kid. Imagine if this was done to you and you were scammed out of a huge donation.
EDIT: I also want to point out that I am the exact age (18) of the kid who did this. I would never think of ever doing something like this, nor do I think many other people my age or older would think of doing this. This is just a bad kid doing bad things imo, which is personally why I think he deserves the debt.
He literally did this to himself and was trying to commit fraud. Sure, he may have seen it as a prank or a joke, but the true definition of this is fraud.
If you don't want the $50K debt, don't try to scam people out of donations you've given them. And judging by his Twitter and other things I've seen, it looks like he's got a lot of money. I feel bad for the parents, but I just can't find sympathy at all for someone like this. He tried to screw over people he donated to.
Sure, the point of debt forgiveness (specifically, lowering his current debt) for this kid is debatable, but personally I think this is deserved.
When you play with fire, you get burnt. When you go out of your way to screw over those you've donated to a month later, you'll face those consequences. I really don't get the defenses made for this kid. Imagine if this was done to you and you were scammed out of a huge donation.
EDIT: I also want to point out that I am the exact age (18) of the kid who did this. I would never think of ever doing something like this, nor do I think many other people my age or older would think of doing this. This is just a bad kid doing bad things imo, which is personally why I think he deserves the debt.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
At least early in the thread, I think a lot of us were under the impression that he was a kid, not an 18 year old. Also he's rich so let him pay. The thought of like a 12 year old bankrupting his working class parents was where I think a lot of the objections came from. Now that the facts are out, fuck this guy.
This is what gets me. It's literally fraud just as a "prank", and people want to defend that. That's sick. You don't go to a restaurant, pay with your cc and then go home and ask for chargebacks. You don't write cheques that will bounce to buy something at a store. Somehow people want to defend it because it's twitch streamers or because they call it a donation or for whatever other half assed excuse. At the end of a day it's a crime, and charge backs are supposed to be for when something serious happens, not when some 18 year asshole with rich parents wants to have a laugh when some noteworthy internet people get stuck with some debt because of them.
The parents financial situation has no bearings on this, but the parents parenting surely does. If the kid had working class parents and did this I would still feel the same. You got a shitty kid due to shitty parenting, maybe fix it.
Thanks for making my sympathy evaporate